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shame he is cutting a two door sedan as they are a sharpe looking car to begin with .... but even as a roller before the fact..it is not like his car was a museum piece to begin with...its a cult thing in my opinion....all these guys just want to be different in the very same way...

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I kind of agree that if there's another one in a museum somewhere, it's not a sin to modify it. Having said that, I try to stick with mods that can be reversed.

 

I'm just worried about one thing....how long until he puts a chevy engine in it? :)

 

ken.

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Lumpy is a little of both.

 

k.

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Some years back,I was down in Reno,Nevado.It was getting dark and there was half dozen lowriders in a row parading down one of the streets in town.. Customs from the forties..going slow - they were chopped,fitted with swamp coolers,skirts,visors,had the hydraulics and flame throwers and put on quite a show.Probably a club from southern California, I suppose.Up to that time I'd never seen anything quite like it.These weren't "ratrods" and I was quite taken with the quality of their cars.

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The car in the original post is a coupe, not two door sedan.  He put a 40 Ford split rear window

in it.  

 

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If he maintains and retains the flathead engine...I can kind of appreciate it. If he goes the engine transplant route....not so much.

 

ken.

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If he maintains and retains the flathead engine...I can kind of appreciate it. If he goes the engine transplant route....not so much.

 

ken.

 

So, you'd be opposed to a HEMI? :cool:

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Howa about a 2.0 litre Neon Hemi engine for this project..........LOL okay just kiddin I don't get too hung up on replacement engines and drivetrains, especially if the intended vehicle  was an old wreck anyway. To each there own I say, a nice clean cherry stock, should remain stock, beaters and major projects, anything to get them mobile.

I would not actually mind a slant 6 and 727 trans in y 55 Fargo, love thos engines, and they can be made to have a lot more snap than a Lhead 6 if you wanted too.......

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Well...I'd have to think about a hemi. !!! :) Yes, all things considered, the slant six swap really does make a lot of sense, I think that's the way I would go, if I was going that way, which I am not. Flatheads Forever!

 

ken

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for the over length of the /6 and the aggravation of installing ..the V8 -V6 is no more work and IMO easier and more advantageous all around..last /6 retro I did was in a foreign car..of 1925 vintage and that was 30 years ago...too many nicer transplant available to be yet dating and limiting yourself with the /6..

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What I liked about the slant six transplant was that it just seemed right, being a Dodge/Plymouth straight six engine, and that is also just looked right. But that's just me. I think that it's also true that you can step the performance up on that engne quite a bit. With the flat six, you can only do it, "a bit". Looking at the thread on doing that, it didn't look that painful....and the easy way is not always the best way. I'd spend the extra time to use an engine that made sense to me.

 

Now you can get quite quite a bit more power from an eight, but unless you are going racing, I think a hot slant six would have lots/plenty of power, and get better gas mileage than a V8. But I'm quite happy with my 230, so again, that's just me.

 

Again I say, FLATHEADS FOREVER! I'd rather have a modern engine in a Dart or Duster, than in anything from the 1940's or earlier. ??

 

ken

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the whole idea is power without hopping a flattie and a V6/V8 does not automatically say lets go racing...however I will agree to some extent that most folks do not know happy medium..seem they have the tendency to built an engine maxed out like boring max diameter instead of just cleaning the bore..wow like that extra 3 cu in is going to rocket them to the moon...something go wrong and blam..there is no margin to resize the cylinder elft..now that is when I laugh aloud...

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Oh I get it, and I don't disagree. And I'd be first to agree that 200hp from a stock, or close to stock engine is better than 200hp from an engine that's been tweaked to within an inch of it's life, and has to spin 8,000rpm to achieve it. You know it probably sounds like I'm anti-performance, but I'm not. I have a very healthy engine in my 1972 Dart, 360, that used to be in a car that I used to bracket race. When I drive that car,  I drive it with "enthusiasm". I love the driving "experience" of that car, it's power, it's go-fast appeal. You know, a hot 360 in an A-body feels about the same as a hot 440 in a B-body...that should be enough performance to make most anyone happy.

 

When I get in Lumpy though...I don't expect or even want that level of performance. Don't even want more power than what the shaved head, and dual carbs provide. Really I want the 1940's flathead driving experience, not the V8 experience, not the tire-frying experience. Me and Lumpy like driving down some paved back road where we might only see another car every five or ten minutes. Me and the Dart like to scare each other.

 

Kind of the same with my motorcycles, I have a more modern street bike, and a 1937 antique. When riding the antique, I have no desire to bang through the gears, or race anyone. When I'm on the BMW, then I sometimes ride with....enthusiasm!! I guess I'm trying to say that different vehicles, provide different driving experiences, for me. ?? Did that make sense?

 

I don't think you have to hop a slant six up very much to provide more HP that you might easily get from the 230...but you still might not get the power you would from a box stock 318 or 360. So I agree with you there. !! And I'm not talking about a slant six that's been massaged to approximate a 273 or 318. But I'll still say the Slant six is a little bit more closer to the car's original feel, or "vibe" if you will, and can provide a worth while increase in HP.

 

And I may be totally, utterly wrong! :)

 

ken.

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Well said Ken. I get it, completely. What do you have for motorcycles? A '37 anything has to be cool. I just traded up to a 2013 Yamaha Royal Star Venture last fall.

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1937 UL Harley Davidson, and the 1992 BMW R100R. !! I have a friend with a Royal Star, he really loves it.

 

 

ken

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Thanks. I posted a couple of others of those bikes over on "show us your rides", or "show us your other rides". Also have two dirt bikes, a 1974 TT500 (Yamaha) and a 1974 Honda XL350 which just turned it's first 1000 miles. No kidding. Former owners kept it as a museum piece, I care for it well, but use it for some light trail riding during hunting seasons. They are over there too.

 

ken.

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