Label Plate Id.

[JIPJOBXX]

I have a factory Id label and its # 34274S and it attaches to the firewall.  I was wondering if someone has an idea of where this number would be in the order of built 1942 Dodge cars?  I know I have a blackout and working on it all these years (25) I think it might be one of the last one built??? befor Dodge went from civilian cars to war production.  My old car is kind of a hog pog of parts that look like they just picked up what was on the factory floor and put it together.  I really do love my old car and it fills all my needs for my passion of history.  Thanks Jon

[Young Ed]

Jon you'd have to order your buildsheet from Chrysler to really know for sure. You might also find a published serial number range that would give you an idea.

[Plymouthy Adams]

Per my reference data that is not a  Chrysler number but that of the body builder.  your body number by sequence should be on the front right door pillar or even the engine number if stock would be a better indication of build date...check the engine number against that of the frame...D22 first body serial number is 30577001   First engine number is D22-1001

[Don Coatney]

I agree with Young Ed. Order a build sheet. That might supply the proof that your car is a true blackout.

[JIPJOBXX]

Don could you give an address to check this out from Chrysler?  Thanks

[desoto1939]

I did the build sheet from Chrylser and it is worth the money.  I even found out the original dealership they sent the car to and also the correct day the car was built and came off the assemkbly line.  They even set pictures of the 39 comeing down the assembly line, not mine specially.

 

Knowing the history is very important and Chevy (GM) and Ford can not longer provider their owners with this type of information.  I was able to contact the great grandson of the original dealership that sold my 39 Desoto.  They now runa a major school bus manufactor facility in Exton PA. So there is a lot of history around my car.

 

Rich Hartung

Desoto1939@aol.com

[TodFitch]

Don could you give an address to check this out from Chrysler?  Thanks

From http://www.ply33.com/Misc/buildcard

 

Chrysler Group LLC – Historical Services

12501 Chrysler Fwy.

CIMS 410-11-21

Detroit, MI 48288 USA

ATTN: Historical Information

Phone: +1.313.252.2902

Fax: +1.313.252.2928

E-mail: archives@wpchryslermuseum.org

http://wpchryslermuseum.org/

[Young Ed]

I did the build sheet from Chrylser and it is worth the money.  I even found out the original dealership they sent the car to and also the correct day the car was built and came off the assemkbly line.  They even set pictures of the 39 comeing down the assembly line, not mine specially.

 

Knowing the history is very important and Chevy (GM) and Ford can not longer provider their owners with this type of information.  I was able to contact the great grandson of the original dealership that sold my 39 Desoto.  They now runa a major school bus manufactor facility in Exton PA. So there is a lot of history around my car.

 

Rich Hartung

Desoto1939@aol.com

 

I agree! I got the original dealership for my car too. I contacted the historical society for that town and got a picture of the dealership and a few scans of print ads. Sadly nothing cool like a lot full of new plymouths. The one picture was before they switched to cars from buggies.

[Don Coatney]

Don could you give an address to check this out from Chrysler?  Thanks

That information is available on this web site.

[JIPJOBXX]

There is no lable plate on the piller!

[TodFitch]

There is no lable plate on the piller!

Nothing on the front passenger (right) door hinge post? Should at least be some holes and outline in the paint where the serial number plate was when it left the factory. (Post war the serial number plate was moved to the driver (left) side.)

[JIPJOBXX]

Thanks guys I just called them but they do not use phone service so I just emailed them and I hope to have all the information I need.  I still know the son of the original owner and I know that his father bought the car back in 1948 and he even knew the previous owner and why he sold the car to his dad.  Apparently he bought brand new 48 Buick and his father was a good friend and sold it to him.  The Ringstaffs family owned my car for over 45 years and then I bought it.  My neighbor who is 98 years young even told me she rode around in my old car back in the 50's.  Also Mr. Ringstaffs wife was a food service worker at a nearby grammar school and she used this car regularly to drive back and forth to her job.  I have had people come down my driveway and stated they remember my old car and I would ask them why? And it was usually because Miss Ringstaff was a kind and wonderful person who always cared for the kids going to Brownville Elementary.  One person said that if you did not get a breakfast she would make sure that you got something to fill your belly till lunch.  What a great little bit of history.  Oh yes and you guys know about the milking machine adapter boy does that bring up stories also!!!! But one of the best stories related to me was that one of the daughters (Which were knockouts!) stated to me if I noticed the big dent on the drivers side front fender?  And of course I had but fixed it.  She said that dent was caused by her missing the barn door and running into the side of the barn   My old Dodge may not be the cheeriest machine going down the road but I know when at a car show people really love the way I set it up with all the documentation and of course music I play out of an old Drive In theater speaker..  Jon

[JIPJOBXX]

Opps found it on the other side and I probably saw it befor of the 25 years of ownership just looked on the wrong side this morningThanks

30643360#

[Plymouthy Adams]

if one is to believe sequential numbers then 8353 units were built after your car....while that may not be a large amount of numbers and such to some people..but given the approximate  3 years 3 months that two of my particular cars were built..your car final production prepresents about 1000 more units on tail end than my car totaled during all those years..so rare, hardly...given the 42 Dodge model year did see 74713 units produced or approx. 10 times total number in a 1/2 year tops production frame..

Edited August 13, 2013 by Plymouthy Adams

[TodFitch]

Opps found it on the other side and I probably saw it befor of the 25 years of ownership just looked on the wrong side this morningThanks

30643360#

 

Serial Number 30643360

Found in range 30577001 to 30644377

Serial 66360 of 67377

Year 1942

Make Dodge

Model Code D22

Plant Detroit

Engine 6 cylinder 230.2 cu.in. L-head

Wheelbase 119 1/2 inches

 

if one is to believe sequential numbers then 8353 units were built after your car....

 

Should only have been 1017 built after that from the Detroit plant. I'd have to go back and see if they built D22 models at other plants too.

[Plymouthy Adams]

could well be Tod..my two references do not break it down any better than what I showed...even at that the numbers still are produced items after his serial number for the total production run...

Edited August 13, 2013 by Plymouthy Adams

[JIPJOBXX]

I have a photo showing the early 42 dodges with the front trim extending past the middle of the fenders and mine well it only goes to about an inch or so past the seam above the tires.  And of course all the material is not chrome or stainless but pure steel or whatever?  The door handles on the front doors are not plated but the rear are.  Oh befor I broke the original hood ornimament it was not plated also. 

[Plymouthy Adams]

these are good markers for such Jon and as you are such good friends of the past owners maybe they have photo documentation to that effect as they did not get it new, but some 6 years old...else one can only guess to what a PO may have done over the years as normal upkeep and maintenance..

[Andydodge]

I have only seen 1 1942 Dodge here in Oz, it was sitting in a wrecking yard from the late 60's till about 5yrs ago and has started to be restored, it was not a blackout model, having chrome moldings and trim. As Oz was at war from September 1939 the last civilian car production was early 1941 apparently.......the story with 1942 models was that they were supposedly redirected from the Phillipines and other Asian countries once Japan attacked Singapore and of course Pearl Harbour. I have seen 1942 Chev Convertibles, a 1942 Plymouth Convertible, the 1942 Dodge Sedan and a 1942 Ford Woody..........was the blackout trim originally painted green?.......andyd

[JIPJOBXX]

This article I wrote to inform people looking at my old Dodge and its simple and to the point of what makes a blackout car and blackout!

[JIPJOBXX]

My car was owned by a farmer and it was used for basic transportation and was not used to impress his friends.  Why would anyone paint all the trim and then paint all the chrome trim on the interior stuff?  It has steel trim under the paint.  I have heard of people taking a blackout model and changing out the trim but not the other way it would not make sense?????????  Beside Mr.Ringstaff probably had more important thing to do than take all the  stainless steel trim off and replace it with steel trim.  He had five kids and a wife-what do you think?  Oh yes and the fact I still have the original hood ornament and its not chrome plated.

[Plymouthy Adams]

wow...first automatic...possible sole survivor...again, check the internet......

[JIPJOBXX]

The car manufactures could paint the trim whatever color they choose to use.  I just thought I like the green and used it as trim.  The trim color originally was kind of a blue gray and I might change it back but that depends upon the time to do it and if I really want it to be that color??? Thanks for your interest as I love my old car as it is different and I know the family that own it from almost the day it was sold.  Their old farm is located about two miles from here but they do not own it anymore.  I would like someday like to go over there and take some black and white photo's of it next to the old barn that it sat in for so many years.  This car is part of me and hay I feel lucky to be the caretaker of it and the next person will be the Lemay museum folks as I plan of giving it to them so that other people will be able to see a part of history and our car industry.

[JIPJOBXX]

This car was not a true automatic as it just has two turbine pushing oil one against the other.  But again it made driving easy for the little lady and was a high selling point for these old fluid drives.  I have in my possession a 10 minute sales movie about the new 1946 Dodge and its fluid drive transmission.  Its a fun old film to watch and it really plays on the point of a person not being able to drive a car and shift at the same time.  It was a promo film and my brother found it for me.  The car itself when in high gear at a stoplight is about as fast as a herd of turtles but it does work.  I use the fluid drive as much as possible because it does save the clutch from being used.  Here is a little discription of how the fluid drive works!

[JIPJOBXX]

Here is something fun that I procurred from a friend for five dollars!  It a promo model of a Dodge Four Sedan!  I remember my dad giving me a model like this but it was a Nash and they gave it to him when he bought his new Nash in 1946.  Of course it wasn't painted like the picture as I just had a little fun and did that myself. I love to have extra junk from the 40's that go along with my Blackout and this by far really do that