1941Rick Posted August 15, 2012 Report Posted August 15, 2012 I saw a Dodge hot rod at the West Yellowstone Rod Run with an Aussy Hemi 6 cylinder. Anyone know of any for sale in North America....Would be an interesting fit into my 41 P12 Quote
Dodgeb4ya Posted August 15, 2012 Report Posted August 15, 2012 There is a high horse power version too- around 300HP I think. A friend has 2 of them. One the std and the other the HP 265CI version. None for sale though. Bob Quote
eh dubya Posted August 15, 2012 Report Posted August 15, 2012 I kicked one out of bed in my P7 for a 4.0 Jeep. The only thing the semi hemi has over the Jeep is a cool name. Both are longer than the flathead and require some firewall and toe board surgery. Quote
Roger the Dodger Posted August 15, 2012 Report Posted August 15, 2012 But with a Hemi 6 the cool factor is off the scale My 1976 Dodge/Valiant Ute has a 245ci Hemi 6. That is the next project after I finish converting my D40 to 12 volts. Roger. Quote
Andydodge Posted August 15, 2012 Report Posted August 15, 2012 The Hemi 6 is not all its cracked up to be...sure the E37/38 & E48/49 versions with the triple webers would be nice but it is a VERY long engine........in the late 70's I sold my Oz 1940 Dodge Coupe to a mate, he wanted it rodded with a Hemi 6, & he had no mechanical or rodding experience so got me to install it.........I had to recess the firewall about 3" to fit it, he wanted the Valiant 3 speed & mechanical clutch setup.....what a pain, lol.......anyway he ended up selling it before it was finished and virtually everything apart from the bare body & rolling got "lost"........I ended up buying it from the new owner, no bolt on sheetmetal at all, bought another 40 sedan for parts but ended up not finishing it......attached pic of my exact car in the magazine was b4 I bought it, the other pics are the day I sold it with basic sheetmetal on a rolling chassis with a 302 Cleveland/C4 installed........never seen since.......personally unless you MUST havea Hemi 6 , go for it......me, nah........lol...........andyd Quote
1941Rick Posted August 15, 2012 Author Report Posted August 15, 2012 It sure would have "Cool Factor" written all over it. HMMMM wonder what the shipping costs would be to Vancouver BC from Aus? I would go with a 5 spd trans. As for fitting it in, no problem for me....Afterall we have long winters up here. Quote
Young Ed Posted August 15, 2012 Report Posted August 15, 2012 Get out your credit card http://www.hemiperformance.com.au/store2/p_887_Hemi-6-265-Performer-Special-Crate-Engine Quote
Plymouthy Adams Posted August 15, 2012 Report Posted August 15, 2012 with the fuel injection that would be a nice way to go..it's just money..the ole pay to play at its best..I expect to see about 8 or 9 of the guys showing up in Elko with these units installed now that Ed let the source loose on the forum.. Quote
1941Rick Posted August 15, 2012 Author Report Posted August 15, 2012 Anyone loan me their credit card....Cool Factor only 8000 aus dollars plus shipping..... maybe a crate 5.7 is in the cards Quote
Plymouthy Adams Posted August 15, 2012 Report Posted August 15, 2012 in todays economy and the wanting to drive these cars when finished..feeding ponies usually does not come on the cheap..guess I am the odd man out as i try to buld with a bit of economics not only int he build but in the opertion..I know I know some going to say my cars must be super economical as I don't drive them...you right..ah but if I choose too..and keep my foot out of the 4bbl on the Tiger..not so bad.. Quote
bbbbbb99 Posted August 15, 2012 Report Posted August 15, 2012 I kind want to go the other way on a build some day and use a early 70 ford 4 cylinder and make a roadster body out of a 61 Dodge PU (heavily chopped, channeled and sectioned). Fantasy land tho Quote
Plymouthy Adams Posted August 15, 2012 Report Posted August 15, 2012 1600; 2000 or 2300 engine..I was always a tad fond of the 171 V6 especially when equipped with the Ford carb and not the Weber..got one with a 4 speed here and one with a automatic..always thought they would power a Truimph Spitfire really well (Weber reminds me of a grill and somehow fire comes to mind) Quote
greg g Posted August 15, 2012 Report Posted August 15, 2012 Doesn't look much different from the 4.0 Jeep engine. Do that swap, add som Aussie Dress up items, and tell folks its a OZ Hemi. Quote
Andydodge Posted August 15, 2012 Report Posted August 15, 2012 Greg, interesting pic........the story here in Oz was that the Hemi 6 was originally develpoed as a truck engine by Dodge in the US, they decided they dedn't want it so it migrated to Oz. It first got use here in the 1970 Valiant VG series as a 245cube engine as a replacement for the 225 Slant 6. In its 1st yr it came with a 2barrel carb but an optional hipo version had a single 4barrel and headers.The next year, 1971 Valiant let all the bells & whistles out, it came as a 215/245 and 265, the 215 was a single barrel carb economy engine, the 245 & 265 had a 2 barrel standard but the hipo had the 4 barrel deleted and triple webers in its place. The peak was the 1972 version, still 265 & webers but bigger cam & a 4 speed instead of the 3 speed in 1971.....the "track pack" version put out 302hp.............nice engine then.....lol.........andyd Quote
Daliant. Posted August 16, 2012 Report Posted August 16, 2012 Other than the oil filter and distributor location it would be hard to tell the difference between the 4.0L jeep engine and the aussie "hemi" if you looked at it quickly, just put hemi stickers on the valve cover and paint the block orange and most people wont know the difference. I don't think it would be cost effective to run an aussie motor in north america, if you needed something like a water pump or starter or gaskets you wont find them at your local parts store. Quote
1941Rick Posted August 16, 2012 Author Report Posted August 16, 2012 Then there is the problem of the header location.....the engine is best suited for right hand drive cars.... Quote
Frank Elder Posted August 16, 2012 Report Posted August 16, 2012 It's a "poly" engine at best........not a true hemi. Quote
Andydodge Posted August 16, 2012 Report Posted August 16, 2012 Frankie, you're being generous there....lol..........andyd Quote
Frank Elder Posted August 16, 2012 Report Posted August 16, 2012 Honest to goodness guys I was hoping to see a real hemi head on a slant six...I think that would be the feline's rear end! Quote
Young Ed Posted August 17, 2012 Report Posted August 17, 2012 Forget a /6 you need one of these Quote
eh dubya Posted August 17, 2012 Report Posted August 17, 2012 Wow indeed, the mother of them all. Greg, that's an impressive bundle of snakes. What's the trans? -Andy Quote
eh dubya Posted August 17, 2012 Report Posted August 17, 2012 1941Rick said: Then there is the problem of the header location.....the engine is best suited for right hand drive cars.... Not really, in my P7 the distributor was too close to the footwell and modifying the footwell would have made it uncomfortable, even minimal rear spark plug access is intrusive. I looked at the cost of direct firing and the low mileage 4.0 and trans was less, cheap and plentiful like the oz hemi had once been The exhaust was still on the wrong side so I moved the battery box. Quote
greg g Posted August 17, 2012 Report Posted August 17, 2012 The article I took the pic from sai it was a 5 speed. the engine is going into a Jeep Comanche pickup that is running at Bonneville. Quote
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