block off plate fuel pump

[52concord]

so im running a electric fuel pump and i have the mechanical one on their still but not connected or anything, do they sell a block off plate for the 218

[Andydodge]

I doubt it.......just make up one your self.........its just a plate piece of steel..........andyd

[Robert Horne]

I made one using 1/4 aluminum, works good, easy to cut....

[claybill]

run one thru the other. what type of electric pump do oyu have.? bellows or electronic.? brand? cost? source.?

bill

[Don Coatney]

run one thru the other. what type of electric pump do oyu have.? bellows or electronic.? brand? cost? source.?

bill

What is an "electronic" fuel pump? I understand how a bellows pump works but I do not have a clue what an electronic fuel pump is nor how it works.

[Plymouthy Adams]

Don, these were originally made by Facet and now it is copied/made by Purlator and often marketed under the Carter name also..they are solid state..no motor..this is my pump of choice for naturally aspirated engines since mid 80's...excellent pusher..

http://www.racerpartswholesale.com/product/1738/Facet_Fuel_Pumps

[TodFitch]

What is an "electronic" fuel pump? I understand how a bellows pump works but I do not have a clue what an electronic fuel pump is nor how it works.

Is a puzzle. Looking around, the Facet-Purolator "solid state fuel pump" claims no bearings, no points, no diaphragm, etc. to wear out and is supposed to be good for all fuels from pure alcohol through diesel and gasoline. But I can't find an explanation of how it is supposed to work.

[Plymouthy Adams]

proprietary secrets Tod...I am thinking it is a electronic switching of a solenoid that drives a piston..if you first install these and in the seconds to prime they hammer quite loud till you get solid hydraulic line..from then you never know it is on the car IF you have it properly mounted on iso mounts..if not it bangs big time trust me..I have used this pump for twin deuces at WOT and high RPM without fail or loss of ample fuel supply, only shut down I had with that set up was the rev limiter should I hold a gear a tad longer than I should have..

[Don Coatney]

Therin is my issue. Pasted below is a partial list of pump types.

1.1 Positive displacement pump

1.1.1 Positive displacement pump behavior and safety

1.1.2 Positive displacement types

1.1.2.1 Rotary positive displacement pumps

1.1.2.2 Reciprocating positive displacement pumps

1.1.3 Various positive displacement pumps

1.1.3.1 Gear pump

1.1.3.2 Screw pump

1.1.3.3 Progressing cavity pump

1.1.3.4 Roots-type pumps

1.1.3.5 Peristaltic pump

1.1.3.6 Plunger pumps

1.1.3.7 Compressed-air-powered double-diaphragm pumps

1.1.3.8 Rope pumps

1.2 Impulse pumps

1.2.1 Hydraulic ram pumps

1.3 Velocity pumps

1.3.1 Centrifugal pump

1.3.1.1 Radial flow pumps

1.3.1.2 Axial flow pumps

1.3.1.3 Mixed flow pumps

1.3.2 Eductor-jet pump

1.4 Gravity pumps

1.5 Steam pumps

1.6 Valveless pumps

You will notice that Electronic pumps are not listed.

Electronic is not a pump discription but a sales and marketing ploy.

[TodFitch]

You will notice that Electronic pumps are not listed.

Nor is "solid state pump", which is what the vendor's web site calls it, listed.

[Don Coatney]

Nor is "solid state pump", which is what the vendor's web site calls it, listed.

Solid state. Does this mean that there are no moving parts? Or that the moving parts are activated by a solid state relay (SSR). A pump must have moving parts in order to move anything.

I can understand a bellows pump activated by a SSR and I understand a bellows (or other type of pump) activated by a solenoid fired coil and magnetic rod to pulse a hunk of rubber. But I dont understand an "electronic" pump.

[deathbound]

Back on topic......use the mechanical fuel pump base or gasket & make one out of steel or aluminum-as said before. I made one, because I am using an "electric" fuel pump.

[Reg Evans]

Try these folks.

http://www.summitracing.com/search/?keyword=fuel%20pump%20block%20off%20plate&dds=1

[greg g]

Hmmm neither solid state nor electronic seem to apply to any type of pump or even control for a pump. Unless, there is a transistor and or circuit board associated with powerig the pump. The term solid state as defined below has no application to a pump unless they are creating a vortex within a chrystal which moves the fluid as a reaction to a force field, (similar to the fictional catipillar drive used some authors to power ships or submarines through the water) perhaps a series of spinning magnets that power the fuel along it journey. The added benefit would be ionizing the fuel or at least polaizing the moelcules for more power, greater milage, and less friction at critical start up.

1: relating to the properties, structure, or reactivity of solid material; especially : relating to the arrangement or behavior of ions, molecules, nucleons, electrons, and holes in the crystals of a substance (as a semiconductor) or to the effect of crystal imperfections on the properties of a solid substance <solid–state physics>

2a : utilizing the electric, magnetic, or optical properties of solid materials <solid–state circuitry> b : using semiconductor devices rather than electron tubes <a solid–state radio>

By its definition a solid state pump would have no moving parts and nothing to hammer till pressure builds. Hammering to me implies movement and strongly suggests a diaphram moving. Not saying the pumps are good at what they are designed to do, but the electronic and solid state part seems a bit of marketing hyperboly.

Edited June 1, 2012 by greg g

[Plymouthy Adams]

most TV's are solid state but somehow they just do not turn on by themselves or read your mind and automatically display the channel/program you want..they just the tool for displaying the media streaming into the cable/antennea

in your own definition 2A..this is the baby you want to keep in mind..for those who have never used one of these pumps...well, odds are you would never use another whirly model ever again unless it was just flat out given to you..

one thing we can all depend on though, Lucy will jerk away the football at the last possible moment.

[ptwothree]

Or you could remove the actuation arm on the stock pump and bolt it back on. It'll still pass fuel to the carb from the electric pump...