New guy...

[dudford]

Hi all,

I dont know how its done on this forum but i figure I'd introduce myself. I started out on another forum because I'd found a 1930 Chrysler CJ-6 in a field in the UK and really didn't know what I was dealing with. Subsequently I was referred by many to this forum because I hear it is the font of knowledge for all things mopar.

I'm hoping to tap into that over the coming months as I research and rebuild the Chrysler.

Cheers!

[TodFitch]

Welcome. I recall seeing your posts over on the AACA forums. I don't recall the photos however. Looks like a good solid vehicle that will be a strong runner once sorted out.

Interesting looking engine: I was under the impression that prior to 1933 the water pumps used by Chrysler had a gland nut and used packing for sealing. Your engine has the later style water pump complete with a blocked off thermostat bypass which, I thought, would make it 1934 or later. I suspect a later engine has been installed on your car.

What is the number stamped on the block above the generator?

[Andydodge]

Gidday from Oz.........thats a nice looking Chrysler..........wish those sort of fields were around here......lol........these guys are a great source of info..........just remember to talk yank, ie, fenders not wings, sedan not saloon, wagon not estate, hood not bonnet, trunk not boot...........lol..........seriously tho welcome aboard........Andy Douglas

[dudford]

What is the number stamped on the block above the generator?

Yeah this has been butchered by someone. I'm currently running a 1953 P24. Hell I ain't complaining, I paid next to nothing for a seriously beautiful car! Compliments on that keen eye though, impressive!

And I think its taking time but I am still learning US lingo. Found out today I have a "rumble seat" and I always thought it was a Dickie Seat!?! Therein lies the learning curve!

[TodFitch]

Yeah this has been butchered by someone. I'm currently running a 1953 P24. Hell I ain't complaining, I paid next to nothing for a seriously beautiful car! Compliments on that keen eye though, impressive!

And I think its taking time but I am still learning US lingo. Found out today I have a "rumble seat" and I always thought it was a Dickie Seat!?! Therein lies the learning curve!

That explains your posts elsewhere for copies of a '53 Plymouth service manual. If the engine was installed reasonably well and you aren't a stickler for originality, you'll probably find that the '53 engine is far easier to get parts and service than the original '30 engine. There was a huge design change on Chrysler engines starting, at least on Plymouth, in 1933 and the older engines are much different (poured babbit, etc.) than the '33 and newer (thin shell inserts, etc.). Getting mechanical parts for a '33 and up Plymouth is far easier than getting equivalent parts for a '32 or older Plymouth.

A quick web search turns up that "Dickie seat" and "rumble seat" are synonyms. Have to add that to the bonnet/hood, boot/trunk, wings/fenders, etc. translation list.

[greg g]

Nice looking start. I though the engine a bit modern for a 30. Good luck with it. There is another term for the Rumble and Dicky seat at least hereabouts....it called a Mother in law seat.

[drillmastertommy]

Hey Dudfords, great looking car! I have a 53 Plymouth engine in my truck. Where abouts in the UK are you?

[Joe Flanagan]

Dicky was the kid nobody wanted to sit with. They always made him sit back there.

It looks like that car was garaged for most of its life. When you said "found in a field," I thought it would be all rusted out. It looks very solid, though.

[dudford]

Hey Dudfords, great looking car! I have a 53 Plymouth engine in my truck. Where abouts in the UK are you?

Hi Tommy,

I'm in West Sussex, Crawley area. Dont suppose you'd know where to start looking for a starter motor for one of these in the UK? The US shipping prices are gonna crucify me! Any good rallys/shows down our way soon?

That explains your posts elsewhere for copies of a '53 Plymouth service manual. If the engine was installed reasonably well and you aren't a stickler for originality, you'll probably find that the '53 engine is far easier to get parts and service than the original '30 engine.

Spot on, i think you're right. Obviously original would've ment that I'd take the car in one direction but seeing as essentially its already "rodded" (non-stock engine) I may as well not be so precious about the parts I source!

Cheers

[BobT-47P15]

Hi. Welcome.

You might look up in the member listings "RobinUK"....he is in the London

area. Has a 47 Plymouth convertible. Has had it a while now - he may

know some parts sources. Send him a P M. There are some others in your country,

but I can't think of their names just now.

Edited April 5, 2012 by BobT-47P15

[drillmastertommy]

Hi Tommy,

I'm in West Sussex, Crawley area. Dont suppose you'd know where to start looking for a starter motor for one of these in the UK? The US shipping prices are gonna crucify me! Any good rallys/shows down our way soon?

Actually I may have one available fairly soon, I recently sourced 2 for my truck but have rebuilt my original now. Depends on whether you have a positive start push?? Wheels day in Aldershot is on tomorrow, if the weather is good it's always a good show and I think the southcoast internationals are in June sometime. Personally my favourite is the Hotrod Hayride at the end of July, your wagon will fit in perfectly.

[DCurrent]

Welcome. Wow! great lookin car. I wouldn't change a thing. Just fix to drive it. I bet there aren't many of those cars around where you are. Heck I don't think there are many here in the states in that condition. More Pictures!!!!

Darren

[dudford]

Actually I may have one available fairly soon, I recently sourced 2 for my truck but have rebuilt my original now. Depends on whether you have a positive start push?? Wheels day in Aldershot is on tomorrow, if the weather is good it's always a good show and I think the southcoast internationals are in June sometime. Personally my favourite is the Hotrod Hayride at the end of July, your wagon will fit in perfectly.

excuse my abhorrent ignorance, i'm not proud, but what is positive start push? If you have a spare starter that would be compatible with mine going at any time soon I'll happily get down to Chichester whenever you give me the green light!

Welcome. Wow! great lookin car. I wouldn't change a thing. Just fix to drive it. I bet there aren't many of those cars around where you are. Heck I don't think there are many here in the states in that condition. More Pictures!!!!

Darren

Here's some pics from when I picked her up...

Dicky was the kid nobody wanted to sit with. They always made him sit back there.

It looks like that car was garaged for most of its life. When you said "found in a field," I thought it would be all rusted out. It looks very solid, though.

OK, I'll confess, perhaps found in a field was a little exaggerated. I know for a fact it had been sitting outside for about 5 years under a tree next to field in Kent. My Dad has a 1943 GMC CCKW 353 parked up in a barn and this car was parked up outside and I'd see it and think, "I'd love that car...".

The reason why its in fairly good condition is probably because the previous owner covered it in paint from the local DIY store thus keeping rot out (not exclusively mind!).

[Phil Martin]

I think I would hook up the sixth sparkplug.

[drillmastertommy]

The positive start on these old flathead starters is basically a floor mounted button /lever that you manually push that makes the starter power connection and throws the starter sprocket at the same time. No fancy solenoids and bendix bits basically.

I should have one of each type available shortly, I'll let you know. Is that a starter solenoid mounted on your firewall?

[RobertKB]

Nice car and good luck with it. I would measure the length of the engine in your car as the '53 US Plymouth engines were 23" inches long and the Canadian Plymouth engines were the longer 25". I don't think this will affect the starter you use but other things are different like the distributor, manifolds, gaskets, etc. The longer engines were used in all Canadian built cars from 1938 onward but used in Desotos, Dodges, and Chryslers in the US. Plymouths in the US had the shorter engines. Not sure which you have as visually they look very similar. Most engines in the UK are likely Canadian sourced. Anyway, look into it.

[Young Ed]

He's got a 23incher you can tell from the intake manifold.

[RobertKB]

He's got a 23incher you can tell from the intake manifold.

Good eye, Ed. You be right!

[40plyrod]

Welcome Nice car. My Dad has one just a few years older that I restored for him, but it's only a 4 cylinder.

[dudford]

Welcome Nice car. My Dad has one just a few years older that I restored for him, but it's only a 4 cylinder.

Thats seriously clean! Very impressive work. That an original rad cap or repro? I keep scouring eBay in the hopes an original will turn up, i'd love a scuffed aged grubby one... does that sound wrong? I dont care!

[dudford]

The positive start on these old flathead starters is basically a floor mounted button /lever that you manually push that makes the starter power connection and throws the starter sprocket at the same time. No fancy solenoids and bendix bits basically.

I should have one of each type available shortly, I'll let you know. Is that a starter solenoid mounted on your firewall?

Right got you, yes it does have the floor mounted lever/pedal but has been converted to a starter solenoid switch

[Joe Flanagan]

I would get some penetrant and start spraying all the bolts, nuts, etc. before you start work on it. Just go out there and give it a shot every so often. You might save yourself a broken bolt or two. There are a few other members in the UK I believe who can offer advice on parts availability and shipping, plus a few in Germany and Holland.

[40plyrod]

Thats seriously clean! Very impressive work. That an original rad cap or repro? I keep scouring eBay in the hopes an original will turn up, i'd love a scuffed aged grubby one... does that sound wrong? I dont care!

Nothing wrong with that it's your car. Dad's is an original we had rechromed. I have seen a few come up on ebay so keep looking.

[falconvan]

Hi all,

I dont know how its done on this forum but i figure I'd introduce myself. I started out on another forum because I'd found a 1930 Chrysler CJ-6 in a field in the UK and really didn't know what I was dealing with. Subsequently I was referred by many to this forum because I hear it is the font of knowledge for all things mopar.

I'm hoping to tap into that over the coming months as I research and rebuild the Chrysler.

Cheers!

That was in a field???? If we find something in a field over here it's usually a worthless rusted heap. Im moving to the UK!

[dudford]

I've started a project thread now, see link:http://www430.pair.com/p15d24/mopar_forum/showthread.php?t=32115

Thank you!