volare clip/ slant six

[slicknapier]

Starting to work on my 48 panel again and have a question. Does anybody have a volare clip with a slant 6? Just wanting to see what it looks like in the engine compartment and how much firewall I need to recess. Thanks, andrew

[Merle Coggins]

Mike (A.K.A. Herr Otto) has a slant 6 in his '49. I haven't seen him post here lately and It seems that I haven't keep in touch with him to see how he's doing on it. I don't recall what suspension is under it, but here are some pics that I took of the engine bay. I don't remember that the firewall was cut and it doesn't look like it in the pics. As I remember, the radiator was mounted farther forward to accomodate the extra length.

[catfishcuz]

The slant six what a wonderful engine.

[sniggle_t]

That slant six looks like it belongs there.

[slicknapier]

Awesome! Thanks

[albolton]

Dont forget you have the option of running a Fatman independent front suspension kit instead of clipping it, I know that clipping was the only way to go in the past but there are some really good options out there now, and it lets you keep the integrity of the stock frame rail, and the benifit of all your sheetmetal still just bolts back on

[slicknapier]

Got the motor in this weekend. Using the Volare motor mounts puts the engine into the cab a few inches. Also picked up my 833 4-speed from the pull your own part yesterday!

[wayfarer]

Care to share the details of the k-frame install?

[slicknapier]

http://www430.pair.com/p15d24/mopar_forum/showthread.php?t=13949

Any questions about the clip let me know. Not sure if I like where the engine and tranny sits with the volare mounts? Have the Dakota clip/frame burning in my mind ...

[Dave72dt]

What part of it don't you like? With K member design and engine/ pan configuration, it doesn't give you many options on placement. Bud's Dakota frame swap entailed firewall modification as well.

[slicknapier]

I don't mind the firewall part. The engine and tranny just seem to low and to far back.

[Dave72dt]

Tough to raise them up. The were designed to fit in vehicles that had a tranny hump and driveshaft tunnel. Wheels have to fit in the fenderwells front to back, Fenderwells could be moved forward a bit. You might consider modifying the oil pan for clearance and fabbing new mounts. Where would the starter end up if you did. Any clearance issues with the driveshaft if you raised it up?

I'e got a V8 in mine and chose to set it back into the firewall. It has a rear sump pan on it. A front sump pan would have meant moving it forward. Also have a tranny hump, removed the factory crossmember that was under the cab and replaced with a trans mount that allowed more ground clearance.

[48Dodger]

http://www430.pair.com/p15d24/mopar_forum/showthread.php?t=14259

Highlights from my Dodge Diplomat K-member install. I stopped calling it a Volare frontend awhile back....

48D

[HanksB3B]

What is the horsepower and the torque rating for the slant six?

Hank

[John-T-53]

I don't mind the firewall part. The engine and tranny just seem to low and to far back.

Low and back is a good thing....lower center of gravity and better handling, right? Hence the reason for the "slant".

Edited November 5, 2011 by John-T-53

[wayfarer]

I do believe that the 'slant' was a result of lower hood lines in the small cars of the 60's. In this case function followed form...

[Daliant.]

What is the horsepower and the torque rating for the slant six?

Hank

60-71 225:

HP:145 @ 4000 rpm

TQ:215 @ 2400 rpm

In '72 the advertised horsepower ratings (mosly for bigger high perfomance engines) were fudged due to insurance and emmissions regulations but the actual numbers were probably on par with the older engines as long the compression ratio didn't drop, the slant six always had a compression ratio around 8.5 to 1

[albolton]

you can never go wrong with the leaning tower of power ...im sure lots of us have stories about dusters and valiants that had the living crap beat out of them as winter beaters and still drove them to the wreckers in the spring ...unbelievably reliable engine

[Plymouthy Adams]

had a number of slants over the years..the QRS Winsor was the best of the bunch..

[jchalk1949]

My understanding of the slanted engine was for longer intake runners.

[48Dodger]

My understanding of the slanted engine was for longer intake runners.

Mopar was always about performance....I agree with jchalk1949

48D

[Frank Elder]

I always heard the 170, shorter stroke, was the better engine out of the 3 choices.......

[wayfarer]

a 2-second search found this:

... The 30° inclination of the Slant-6 gave a lower height overall engine package, which enabled vehicle stylists to lower hoodlines, and also made room for the water pump to be mounted with a significant lateral offset, significantly shortening the engine's overall length. In addition, the slanted cylinder block provided ample space under the hood for intake and exhaust manifolds with runners of longer and more nearly equal length compared to the "rake" or "log" style manifolds found on other inline engines. These manifolds give a more even cylinder-to-cylinder fuel distribution and are less restrictive for better airflow through the engine.

[Plymouthy Adams]

I always heard the 170, shorter stroke, was the better engine out of the 3 choices.......

the 170 was the platform that the HYPER PACK was built upon...the 170 later gave way to the 198 slant 6