Sun Visors

[ggdad1951]

So, if it shows up,do I get some design credit/blame?

I vote blame! Honestly, I like that as a fastener as it isn't so tooling intesive and makes it easier for the user to do the assembly/dissasembly if they want to plate or paint the base.

[John Mathias]

I know it's a little shadetree, but I've used an old tubing cutter to groove rods for e-clips:o Then again, who hasn't used a hammer and drift to peen over a piece of metal?

[ggdad1951]

I know it's a little shadetree, but I've used an old tubing cutter to groove rods for e-clips:o Then again, who hasn't used a hammer and drift to peen over a piece of metal?

since the rod will have to be machined on a lathe anyway, a groove for an e-clip is easy.

[ggdad1951]

hank, that looks EXACTALLY like mine. What truck type is your for (build alist of what goes where and when)?

[Dave72dt]

I figured that would be the way it went. When it works , the big guys take the credit, when it doesn't the little guy gets the blame. Hank's photo of the peened rod shows not a lot of room for installing an E-ring. A true stepoped rod with a smaller dia top would let you use a smaller dia spring and give more room for E-Ring or a washer and snap ring.

[HanksB3B]

hank, that looks EXACTALLY like mine. What truck type is your for (build alist of what goes where and when)?

Mark,

The four Visor Arms as mentioned in post #01 are from an eBay auction where all the information the vendor could supply was that they were for Power Wagons. The castings looked like the correct ones I had in a source photo from somewhere (and found the mounting holes in the casting, do match the cab)

Without actually mounting the piece, I swung the arm so as to mimic the position of the visor to simulate if the sun were setting to the left (through the side window). The visor seemed to drop at an angle and not rotate along the horizon line.

If you will take note in Photo #04 the casting shows that the portion of the casting that holds the pivot arm is approximately a 75 deg angle. This is the angle that needs to be adjusted so that the visor swings along the horizon line and this most likely will vary in that the angle of the valence (that inside portion of the cab above the windshield to which the visor is attached with the 3-screws) most likely will vary between cabs models. (I'd be interested to see photos of other people's visor arm from this angle in addition to where the P/N 1279153 LH (2) appears.

My guess is that the angle of the pivot arm portion of the casting shown in Photo #04 for P/N 1279153 RH (if that is the way it is numbered) would be a mirror image along the z-axis. Do you agree?

Hank

Edited April 22, 2011 by HanksB3B

[ggdad1951]

yah, the angles will depend on the cab config. If this works tho we'd be able to make "castings" for each type of vehicle.

W

[Merle Coggins]

Interesting... The one that Hank pictured looks a bit different than the one I have from my B2C. I'll have to dig it out and take a few pics.

Merle

[george c]

The problem with an e-clip is the spring has to be compressed at the time the retainer is installed. Not too easy with the limited space involved.

As I said before I found a solution to the problem, a push nut, most of you know them as the gizmo that holds wheels on larger toys that is so hard to get off! MSC Industrial has them very reasonable (100 at a time) so we should be able to build all the visors needed. I also located the springs we need.

I received the model from ggdad1951 and have started to create the nc file needed to start making chips.

George

[ggdad1951]

The problem with an e-clip is the spring has to be compressed at the time the retainer is installed. Not too easy with the limited space involved.

As I said before I found a solution to the problem, a push nut, most of you know them as the gizmo that holds wheels on larger toys that is so hard to get off! MSC Industrial has them very reasonable (100 at a time) so we should be able to build all the visors needed. I also located the springs we need.

I received the model from ggdad1951 and have started to create the nc file needed to start making chips.

George

george, give me a call tomorrow night and let me know how the chips went. Got some ideas to discuss w/ you.

[HanksB3B]

Interesting... The one that Hank pictured looks a bit different than the one I have from my B2C. I'll have to dig it out and take a few pics.

Merle

Thanks in advance for posting a picture that shows the angle (as is Photo #04 above). This might help me figure the correct angle so I can fabricate a wedge to be installed between the visor mount and windshield valence in order to get my Power Wagon ones to move with the horizon line on our Pilothouses.

Hank

[george c]

Tomorrow is the big day! I'm going to start cutting the tool paths I've created from Marks model. I think I'll make a first one from oak, much cheaper than metal.

Tested the cnc machine today and air cut several of the tool paths in preparation of making chips in the morning.

I'll try and have some pictures to post tomorrow.

George

[Scruffy49]

You guys just HAD to wait to do this until AFTER I scrapped 50# of 2"x2" 6061T651 bar stock? Figures...

[ggdad1951]

You guys just HAD to wait to do this until AFTER I scrapped 50# of 2"x2" 6061T651 bar stock? Figures...

OH MAN! That sucks!

[george c]

You guys just HAD to wait to do this until AFTER I scrapped 50# of 2"x2" 6061T651 bar stock? Figures...

That does suck! But I have about a 4 ft bar of 2 x 2 6061-t6.

I started to cut a test this morning and about half way through the rough cut the computer decided to reboot itself, ya gotta love windows. So I'm in the middle of building a new one. Maybe tomorrow we'll have something to report?

George

[ggdad1951]

pair for sale on Ebay, one is pretty torn up tho

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dodge-Truck-I-S-SUNVISORS-PAIR-1948-48-1949-49-1950-50-1951-51-1952-52-1953-53-/300611662461?pt=Vintage_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr&hash=item45fdd9f27d

[ggdad1951]

hard not to say anything, but last night I picked up a pair of working mounts and arms for my truck, yes, I now have an original passenger side visor. I about fell over when I was offered it.

[B1B Keven]

Bought a pair of replacements from Roberts which the slide over the old visor arms perfectly.Very pleased with the quality.

Are these still available from Roberts?

[Old 48 1 Ton]

Bump for an update?

[Monkey Truck]

Are these still available from Roberts?

Yes, they still have them. I just bought a pair and they work great.

[B1B Keven]

Yes, they still have them. I just bought a pair and they work great.

How do they attach?

[Monkey Truck]

How do they attach?

They slide on over your visor rod. They were a VERY tight fit. I needed to spray silicone spray over the visor rod and inside the new visor sleeve to get them to slide on.

[pflaming]

I must have missed something. I just removed my drivers side visor # 1279152 l.h. I have factory holes ready to go on the passenger side. I took the driver's side visor and it fits on the passenger side. What is the difference? Mine is identical to the picture in post #30.

Upon further review, I see in post #3 a different mount. Is this the mount referenced in the discussion?

Edited January 18, 2012 by pflaming

[Dodgeb4ya]

1948-50 are the early Chrome style bolt pattern 1951-3 are the later bigger style painted bracket bolt pattern mount.

Bob

[ggdad1951]

I must have missed something. I just removed my drivers side visor # 1279152 l.h. I have factory holes ready to go on the passenger side. I took the driver's side visor and it fits on the passenger side. What is the difference? Mine is identical to the picture in post #30.

Upon further review, I see in post #3 a different mount. Is this the mount referenced in the discussion?

All the trucks had the holes put in. The difference is in the angle of the arm in the base. The mounts are mirror images of each other. If you try and mount a drivers side it won't swing horizontally.