poly 318

[scotty t]

i know some of you take exception with my plan to run a chevy in my plymouth. and thats fine. but if one of you will cough up a 4brl intake for a 318 poly, i'll buy the one i found today. for eventual use in the plymouth. it's in a 63 dodge 500 grain truck. it runs and has all the pulleys, brackets, etc. it does have a front sump pan though. i've researched these motors a little and i think i could work with it. but i need an intake that doesn't cost an arm and a leg.

Edited April 10, 2011 by scotty t

[Gary Manes]

Just what Chevy motor do you plan on shoe-horning into your Plymouth that does not require a specially built intake or exhaust manifold to get around that steering box??

I am pretty flexible myself. I let cost dictate my moves.

[scotty t]

well.... the intake surely won't be in the way of the steering box! and i plan using the cavalier rack and pinion, so exhaust shouldn't be much of a problem.

[scotty t]

i guess i like "different" motors. my 55 chevy had a 348 in it. now it has a 383 in it. the 348 will be back in it this summer! an LA 318 just sounds boring to me. the chevy i will be using is boring also but at least it has a roller cam and i already own it! and i have a manual 5spd trans for it. i don't mean to offend the hardcore mopar guys, i just want to build a hotrod

Edited April 10, 2011 by scotty t

[Young Ed]

I don't know where one is but there is a guy here locally with either 2 4bbls or 3 2bbls on his poly 318

[scotty t]

sounds neat!!

[Andydodge]

Scotty........gidday from sunny Sth Grafton NSW Australia........a Poly you say.......o/k......I have some experience here as I have had a 318 poly in my 1940 Dodge since 1973.....at the time it was the only V8 I could afford, being as I was only 18 and with a bit of fiddling around it did indeed fit.....however take some advice, intake manifolds for 318 Polys are VERY EXPENSIVE and not that easy to find, factory single 4's and twin fours were availble from 1957/58 for the twin 4, & up to approx 62 for a single 4.....edelbrock,Offy & weiand all made aftermarket intakes in single & twin four and also to suit triple Stromberg 97's.......none were really available after the mid70's except the Weiand single 4 intake # 7406 which was stil available up to maybe 5-10 yrs ago of which I have on my car as pictured.........I have also finally found a pic of my car with the original factory twin 4 intake witha pair of Offy Cross Ram elbows which allowed a pair of 600 Holeys to fit..........with a large cam & Hi Stall converter it was a hairy goat or maybe ram in the mid 70's..........but not very streetable so thats why the single 4's there........If you want some good advice I'd try & find a 63-67 Poly from a car, it will have the 727 Alloy trans which is MUCH better parts wise than the old cast Iron pre 62 setup I still have or convert to a manual.........No matter which way you go you will not be able to run the poly and stock steering, the cavalier rack will be the best way to go........or how about a LA 318(Polys are just called the A series)340 or 360, all are great engines and you might just be able to clear the steering box with a bit of work.........anyway have attached a couple of pics, I still have the 1940 Dodge and it hasn't changed much since its last repaint in 1978..........lol.............regards......andyd

[scotty t]

thanks for the info. sharp car!

[oldodge41]

Hey Scotty, its yours. Build it the way you want and be proud of it. If the Chevy engine is what you want, do it. When you build it to satisfy others you will end up with something other than what you really want. If everyone's approval is what you want, sell it and find another hobby, because you will never get everyone to like whatever you do. That is my opinion that shouldn't matter either.................Tim

[Gary Manes]

Did not realize you had made changes underneath. With everything stock the steering box gets in the way of the exhaust for everything except the 273 Desoto V8 which can be shoehorned into the engine compartment.

I (and my mechanic) planned to put in a 350/350 with a Ford 9" in my '48 Desoto coupe until we found out no one in this area makes custom exhausts, and those that do (one over in Arkansas that specializes in racing engines) charge more than the car would be worth.

[wayfarer]

i know some of you take exception with my plan to run a chevy in my plymouth. and thats fine. but if one of you will cough up a 4brl intake for a 318 poly, i'll buy the one i found today. for eventual use in the plymouth. it's in a 63 dodge 500 grain truck. it runs and has all the pulleys, brackets, etc. it does have a front sump pan though. i've researched these motors a little and i think i could work with it. but i need an intake that doesn't cost an arm and a leg.

...so we need to bribe you just so you'll run a Mopar engine...?? No Thanks.

Poly engines, as well as LA types are cheap, just about everywhere, so unless you are desperately poor you could find one if you wanted to look, and if you are too poor to buy a 318 then you probably should put the car stuff on the shelf until you financial picture improves.

.

[scotty t]

WOW! do i detect an atitude here? i didn't say i wanted one for free.and who said i was broke? i just thought in this group of mopar guys someone might have an intake to sell.

[greg g]

I think your use of the phrase "cough up" was looked at as seeking a donation to support the cause. As in "If you guys want to come with me, you each need to cough up 5 bucks for gas." So I can see where it might be misconstrued.

Might have been better to ask if anyone might have one in the parts pile that they might be willing to let go of.

Did seem you were acting a bit entitled, at least where I'm sitting.

[scotty t]

and that's why typing is not as good a form of communicating as talking. it was intended to be to light hearted. some of the guys here have jabbed me for my choice of motor. so i thought if some one "offered up" an intake "for sale" i might eventually install a mopar in a mopar

[Plymouthy Adams]

can find in this order of ease...

two barrel

two four barrel

single four barrel

????? three duces ?????

have heard of but never had my hands on the three duece setup so I cannot verify if it exists other than heresay from a couple mopar-phyles swearing they exist....the other three are factory units...

look to the 61 and earlier for a four barrel..Dodge Phoenix was best known model for the set up..or should I say, the one I saw a stock four barrel on more often..

and yeah..sounded like you wanted some one to bail you out with a freebie...if as you say you got the money..its all obtainable...choose a path and let the good time roll...woulda coulda shoulda are all excuses..

[greg g]

I got it, others arrarently missed your tongue firmly planted in your cheek.

sometime sarcasm, becomes sar chasm.

[scotty t]

can find in this order of ease...

two barrel

two four barrel

single four barrel

????? three duces ?????

have heard of but never had my hands on the three duece setup so I cannot verify if it exists other than heresay from a couple mopar-phyles swearing they exist....the other three are factory units...

look to the 61 and earlier for a four barrel..Dodge Phoenix was best known model for the set up..or should I say, the one I saw a stock four barrel on more often..

and yeah..sounded like you wanted some one to bail you out with a freebie...if as you say you got the money..its all obtainable...choose a path and let the good time roll...woulda coulda shoulda are all excuses..

here's a link to a three deuce intake on fee-bay- http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150586790199&viewitem=&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWAX%3AIT

how much should i expect to pay for a single four intake?

[dezeldoc]

My buddy just sold a dual quad manifold for 125.00 and that is pretty much the going rate, unless you get a fool on the hook that will bid to the moon. I think he has a few motors and manifolds, let me check and see what he has.

[scotty t]

My buddy just sold a dual quad manifold for 125.00 and that is pretty much the going rate, unless you get a fool on the hook that will bid to the moon. I think he has a few motors and manifolds, let me check and see what he has.

thanks:D

[dezeldoc]

He has 3 running motors he is willing to sell. he has 1 offenhauser 4bbl manifold, but till he makes sure he is not going to use one of them or sales them he does not want to part with it. he took several complete motors to the scrapper a few months ago.

[Andydodge]

The 57/58 original Fury twin 4 intake used a pair of WCFB Carters.....Holleys will NOT fit due to space considerations but the Edelbrock carbies will bolt on with carby spacers between them & the manifold due to the small venturi size on the original manifold. Edelbrock and maybe Weiand/Offy certainly made a triple 97 intake. Due to the Weiand single 4 intake no longer being in production the factory single & twin 4 intakes have gone up in price........the factory cast iron intakes weigh a LOT but don't ever really rust out tho the exhaust crossover in the centre can & does crack. The alloy aftermarket intakes on the other hand DO corrode at the front where the water crossover goes thru the manifold.........and any distributor from a late A engine fits straight in, alloy rocker covers were made by Edelbrock and are repo'd by Alan Fountain here in Oz..........don't get me wrong, they are great engines..........I have had one in my car for nearly 40yrs but they are a bit of an orphan and require some searching around for parts etc but they are there.........regards, andyd

[PatS....]

He has 3 running motors he is willing to sell. he has 1 offenhauser 4bbl manifold, but till he makes sure he is not going to use one of them or sales them he does not want to part with it. he took several complete motors to the scrapper a few months ago.

I have a 62 Dodge D300 with a poly and it needs a set of exhaust manifolds. Both of mine are cracked and the old poly is very hard to find so far in these parts.

Would your friend have a set for sale?? If so would he be willing to ship to Canada via FedEx??

[dezeldoc]

Pat, let me ask him.

[thrashingcows]

Scotty T...I caught your little sarcastic tone on the "Cough up".... Personally I like to keep things brand specific and true...but as stated it's YOUR car and YOU can build it however you like. I would never bad mouth the hard work someone has put into their car.

I have seen a couple for sale on the local craigslist...should be able to track down a single four barrel easier then the multi carb units. Maybe through a "Wanted" add on your local craigslist, or here in the site classifieds.

[greg g]

Biggest problem most home built performance street cars is that they are overcarbureted. They bog at low speeds, they have no drivability at mid range, and they run rich. I probably will be facing that situation on my Studebaker truck as I will be running a 327 carb on a 259 engine, whose only modifications are the 4bbl intake and dual exhaust. But its what I found in my price range. so I hope it doesn't suffer from the problems I mentioned above.