thermador??

[michael.warshaw]

on ebay the swamp coolers go for very big money is the 400 dollars range? my question is why? they dont make the car looks nicer, and from waht i have read they dont really work? i dont get, anyone who could shed some light on this, please do thanks mrw.

[LAKOTA169]

Some people like them because it was an aftermarket accessory from "back in the day". My dad had one on his car, and I sold it about a year before I got my '37. wish I still had it now.

[michael.warshaw]

some people like them because it was an aftermarket accessory from "back in the day". My dad had one on his car, and i sold it about a year before i got my '37. Wish i still had it now.

in your experience do they work cool off the car?

[Don Coatney]

in your experience do they work cool off the car?

Follow this link to this thread you started over a year ago as your answer can be found there.

http://www430.pair.com/p15d24/mopar_forum/showthread.php?t=19510

Posting #69 from the linked thread is pasted below.

Some facts

this thread was started in January, since then,

swamp coolers and their sources were covered.

one or more aftermarket modern AC system solutions were posted with links.

evaporative cooling was discussed at least twice.

several considerations were discussed about the problems that may need to be dealt with regarding mounting an AC in a P15.

a member posted his solution and his satisfaction with an installation in a later model Plymouth with similar mechanical systems and under hood space.

A member referernced Louman Earl's posting of his AC in his P15

Swamp coolers were discussed again

And a dead horse is still being flogged by continuing a discussion regarding a vehicle that is not road worthy, so its interior temperature is immaterial to further consideration until and when you have something to put an AC in and something to power it with.

Please re read the posts that have been rendered to your attention on this matter, then let us know what you have decided, what you plan to buy,if you are going to have to change your electrical system, who you are going to have do the installation and electrical system change over. And whether any of those items address your concern about the engine temperature gauge climbing when you sit at lights or drive slowly in high ambient temperatures. But you might like to factor in that this will be an occasional use vehicle, driven evenings and weekends for 4 to 6 months a year and you can make the simple choice that when it's hot out you can drive another vehicle.

[michael.warshaw]

follow this link to this thread you started over a year ago as your answer can be found there.

http://www430.pair.com/p15d24/mopar_forum/showthread.php?t=19510

posting #69 from the linked thread is pasted below.

i didnt dial 911, and the forum police showed up anyway? Thats wierd?

BaCk to the thread, have you guys seen thermador coolers work?

[greg g]

in your experience do they work cool off the car?

They don't work at all off the car as they depend on airflow provided by the car's motion to work at all.

Edited February 6, 2011 by greg g

[LAKOTA169]

We had it on a trip to California. Worked a little, but made it very humid in the car.

[dezeldoc]

If you are in the desert they will work to a degree, but any humidity and they don't work at all. Michael, it is the same as a swamp cooler in a house, and you know how good they work back your way. mostly they are for looks.

PS, if you want one i have a nice one.

[Captain Neon]

Goodness boy, didn't they teach you any thing about evaporative cooling @ Hofstra? Even Liberal Arts majours have to take a basic science course to graduate. You best go ask for your money back as they didn't teach you a bloody thing there.

[Eneto-55]

My Dad had one in our 53 DeSoto for a trip through the desert to California in 60. It was not the window mount type, but one that sat on the hump in front of the front seat, and had an internal fan to circulate the air (instead of depending on air forced into it by the movement of the vehicle).

As far as concerns the use of this type of cooler in houses, they work very well in any dry climate. Lots of folks had them in Western Oklahoma, probably still do, as they are much more economical to operate than what people call air conditioners now.

Neto

[michael.warshaw]

Goodness boy, didn't they teach you any thing about evaporative cooling @ Hofstra? Even Liberal Arts majours have to take a basic science course to graduate. You best go ask for your money back as they didn't teach you a bloody thing there.

I GUESS YOUR SMARTER THAN ME, MR NEON. As ive stated before if you want to compare tax returns lets go for it, honor is in the dollar. We will see who is smarter than...... THEY TAUGHT ME THE MOST IMPORTANT THING money talks. play nice we are all mopar guys here. Its very easy to talk a big game on the pc.... you are know telephone tough guy, i guess your joining don in the forum police. which you do alot. im not here to have a pissin match with ya, but your comments do not enhance the thread, they are just insulting. Im a friendly guy and try to help when i can on the forum here. No harm no foul letts move on.

MR DEZEL IM INTERSTED HOW MUCH, THANKS MIKEY

Edited February 7, 2011 by michael.warshaw

[Frank Elder]

I GUESS YOUR SMARTER THAN ME, MR NEON. As ive stated before if you want to compare tax returns lets go for it, honor is in the dollar. We will see who is smarter than...... THEY TAUGHT ME THE MOST IMPORTANT THING money talks. play nice we are all mopar guys here. Its very easy to talk a big game on the pc.... you are know telephone tough guy, i guess your joining don in the forum police. which you do alot. im not here to have a pissin match with ya, but your comments do not enhance the thread, they are just insulting. Im a friendly guy and try to help when i can on the forum here. No harm no foul letts move on.

MR DEZEL IM INTERSTED HOW MUCH, THANKS MIKEY

If you think the dollar means honor, and being rich makes you better than the rest of us then I truly do feel sorry for you.

Men of honor don't brag of riches.......

[55 Fargo]

I GUESS YOUR SMARTER THAN ME, MR NEON. As ive stated before if you want to compare tax returns lets go for it, honor is in the dollar. We will see who is smarter than...... THEY TAUGHT ME THE MOST IMPORTANT THING money talks. play nice we are all mopar guys here. Its very easy to talk a big game on the pc.... you are know telephone tough guy, i guess your joining don in the forum police. which you do alot. im not here to have a pissin match with ya, but your comments do not enhance the thread, they are just insulting. Im a friendly guy and try to help when i can on the forum here. No harm no foul letts move on.

MR DEZEL IM INTERSTED HOW MUCH, THANKS MIKEY

You know Michael in hard economic times, its very rude to blow your horn about your tax return, and how much money you have, or have been given may be the "operative word". I really doubt your a self made Man, nor do you act like "old money", just my intuitive observation.

I suspect you have been given a lot from your family/parents, a lot of what you have stated at previous times on this forum does not "add up".

Now what you have, and how you have acquired it is your business, unless it is proceeds from crime, which would be any good citizens business, which I do not think you are shady, but a "Fortunate Son", and thats okay.

But quit blowing your "Horn", about your riches, cuz know ones gives a Rats you-know-what, being a Class Act, most times, is not indicative of your tax return numbers, but of "real Character".

So Mikey lay off the Money in the bank crap, it is getting really "Old", and know one gives $hit.

I am not saying you should not defend yourself "under fire", but please com up with a better assault plan, as the money bag thing is a joke, I suspect we may have some wealthy citizens on this Forum, but never read posts from them declaring how much they have.

So there, take it for what it is worth, but so far, your bragging about your cash flow, is boring, and redundant......

Edited February 7, 2011 by Rockwood

[Frank Elder]

If you think the dollar means honor, and being rich makes you better than the rest of us then I truly do feel sorry for you.

Men of honor don't brag of riches.......

Edit. You were taught wrong, money is not all but just a part of life.

[michael.warshaw]

You know Michael in hard economic times, its very rude to blow your horn about your tax return, and how much money you have, or have been given may be the "operative word". I really doubt your a self made Man, nor do you act like "old money", just my intuitive observation.

I suspect you have been given a lot from your family/parents, a lot of what you have stated at previous times on this forum does not "add up".

Now what you have, and how you have acquired it is your business, unless it is proceeds from crime, which would be any good citizens business, which I do not think you are shady, but a "Fortunate Son", and thats okay.

But quit blowing your "Horn", about your riches, cuz know ones gives a Rats you-know-what, being a Class Act, most times, is not indicative of your tax return numbers, but of "real Character".

So Mikey lay off the Money in the bank crap, it is getting really "Old", and know one gives $hit.

I am not saying you should not defend yourself "under fire", but please com up with a better assault plan, as the money bag thing is a joke, I suspect we may have some wealthy citizens on this Forum, but never read posts from them declaring how much they have.

So there, take it for what it is worth, but so far, your bragging about your cash flow, is boring, and redundant......

when a factory worker tells me im not smart, when i have a law degree, business degree, and do business with some of the most wealthy, famous and high powered people in nyc, really angers me. its not about the money, but its who and where the comments come from. Not trying to say money is the most important, but it sure says something about a person. Im just a poor kids from the burbs of long island, who made it in the big city.

[Frank Elder]

So a "Factory" worker's life and opinion is not as valid as yours.....?

[hkestes41]

honor is in the dollar

Bernie Madoff

Keneth Lay

Jeffery Skillings

Andrew Fastow

Jack Abramoff

Joseph Nacchio

Bernard Ebbers

I could go on but think you get the idea. So, you might want to rethink that statement.

"Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy, and where thieves break in and steal. "But store up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust destroys, and where thieves do not break in or steal ; for where your treasure is, there your heart will be also

[55 Fargo]

when a factory worker tells me im not smart, when i have a law degree, business degree, and do business with some of the most wealthy, famous and high powered people in nyc, really angers me. its not about the money, but its who and where the comments come from. Not trying to say money is the most important, but it sure says something about a person. Im just a poor kids from the burbs of long island, who made it in the big city.

Michael, are you calling me a "factory worker", because thats okay with me, as I am comfortable in my skin, and can fit in anywhere.I worked many years in a Meat Packing Plant, before I was fortunate enough to go to College.

Well the fact is, I do have a University Degree, Majoring in Criminology, and have been in my chosen profession, for many years.

I am not sure what you are, or what perhaps your chosen field of endeavor may or may not be, and to be honest, I really am not interested, nor do I suspect anyone else is that interested for that matter.

Michael, you really need to not be so concerned with your "wealth", and a little more concerned on character, and integrity, which will improve a Mans "self image" immensely.

I have nothing against you personally, I do however take "Offence", to your periodic declaration of Wealth, in Sociology we coined that "conspicuous consumption", those that need to display and promote to the social mirror, what they have, or have attained.

Michael a Wise Man once told me, never judge a Man by what he has, but judge a man by what he does. Because to be honest, in the end, it will not make bit of difference what your "tax return" reflects, but those you left behind will truly "reflect" who and what you were.

Michael, enjoy your day, I know I am going to enjoy mine....... PS one more thing, you mentioned Money, says something about a person , you know what it says, you have money, that is all it says........

[greg g]

My father, a factory worker with and 8th grade education had more smarts than most "professionals" He was a passable craftman at carpentry, electrical repair, plumbing, appliance repair, general mechanics, fabrication, engineering, and could hold his own when debating just about anything with just about anyone. He was proof positive that wisdom and learning, trumps store bought education.

The assumption that factory workers are not your equal, or in fact superior to you based on the ability to acculate money is contemptable.

Meanwhile:

A survey of college grades over the last 15 years shows.

45 percent of students "did not demonstrate any significant improvement in learning" during the first two years of college.

36 percent of students "did not demonstrate any significant improvement in learning" over four years of college.

So almost half of students have learned nothing by the time they're halfway through college. And more than a third of students have learned nothing by the time they (should) have graduated from college. Furthermore, the average GPA of students in this study was 3.2. Quite good marks, considering they learned little to nothing!

The students who majored in business, education, and social work learned the least of all.

The exception being those folks who studied to further their professional careers, and those previously classified as non traditional students who commonly met or exceeded academic standards.

Seems one area where they excelled was in written communication. Organizing thoughts into concise, understandable and meaningful written communication or arguments.

Just saying............

Edited February 7, 2011 by greg g

[T120]

...Hmmmm,So tell me again - how does one of these Thermador coolers work?

[greg g]

Dad must have understood, as he built one to cool the garage down so he could work on stuff on hot summer days. Wash tub, couple of burlap bags, frame and an old furnace fan. What a concept.

[Roadkingcoupe]

The basis of the current discussion was well documented in the 1987 movie "Wall Street".

Bud Fox is a Wall Street stockbroker in early 1980's New York with a strong desire to get to the top. Working for his firm during the day, he spends his spare time working an on angle with the high-powered, extremely successful (but ruthless and greedy) broker Gordon Gekko. Fox finally meets with Gekko, who takes the youth under his wing and explains his philosophy that "Greed is Good". Taking the advice and working closely with Gekko, Fox soon finds himself swept into a world of "yuppies", shady business deals, the "good life", fast money, and fast women; something which is at odds with his family including his estranged father and the blue-collared way Fox was brought up.

The end of the movie is overshadowed by the failure of "greed is good" and the main character has unwittingly helped to undermine the values, work ethic and financial downfall of his own "factory worker" father.

Definitely a movie that has stood the test of time.

It might be more relevant today then any other movie of its time.

[Don Coatney]

Seems one area where they excelled was in written communication. Organizing thoughts into concise, understandable and meaningful written communication or arguments.

Just saying............

Greg;

I think you are on to something. I have a lot of respect for those that have good communication skills including the use of punctuation. Hard to believe there are high school graduates in this world who do not have these skills let alone those with higher education. They must have been the ones who learned nothing.

[Don Coatney]

when a factory worker tells me im not smart, when i have a law degree, business degree, and do business with some of the most wealthy, famous and high powered people in nyc, really angers me.

Sounds to me like all us low life factory workers should be asking you the questions:D

So tell me how a swamp cooler works?

[desoto1939]

Most of the people that have to flaunt how much money they have are ususaly very insecure in their life. They have to let people know that they have the $ and can buyt what ever they want and like no matter what the cost. They have to strut around thinking that they are great.

I have a friend in my local car club that some of the older members might know by the name, Campbell - Hurst. or more notable Hurst shifter. Or the Barracuda under Glass Hurst that was so prominent on the drag strips. Well mr Campbell and Mr Hurst developed the Hurst Shifter. Mr Campbell is the person that I have first hand friendship with. He later in life became the CEO of Provost Bus company.

This gentle can out buy most of use two to three fold. He is is his late 60-70. Even thought this gentleman is rich he never has to let anyone know how much money he has or even had. He is very secure in his life and in his financila situation. He is the type of gentleman that knows where he has been and where he is going and does not have to impress. He impressess with how he treats the people around him and nevers puts you down or makes you feel that you are a less person because of your financial situation.

He has a class personality and has the respect of his peers and anyone that meets this gentleman knows that he has class and does not have to spout off in any manner.

We are all car guys at least I hope. Yes some have more $ than others and can spend more on our car hobby but you do not impress me with how much you spend on your car but my way of being impressed by a person is how they respect each other and try to promote the hobby and put forth knowledge and information.

So from this point on I could care less how much money you have or make in life. We all have to support our familes and provide for them the best that we can. The hobby is also important as an escape from the daily grind an issues that we have to face each and every day.

All comments are welcome. Lets keep the forum going on a positive manner and not a negative manner.

Rich Hartung