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I can double date in my car. Try that in any koop:D

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I'm with Don. With the room in that back seat you can see why there was a population explosion in the fifties;);).

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Speaking of Bizzy coupe differences, I have see a couple with jump seats which face in, and some that face forward. Some have a pass through into the trunk, some I have seen have the spare tire behind the driver and one seat. Mine has no pass through, the spare in the trunk and no jump seats. How many permutations are there among those on the board??

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In my '40 business coupe, the spare tire is behind the driver's seat, and the door to the trunk is behind the passenger seat, There is a large package shelf from the edge of the door and spare tire area back to the rear window

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Don Coatney Quote:

Originally Posted by Norm's Coupe

Did you guys never hear of the old saying? "Get a room".

Norm;

"Dont tell me you never got frisky in a car"

Hmmmm......I guess some folks probably even thought that those sturrup looking things hanging from each side were just for aiding people getting in and out of the car. Definately better to have the 4 door sedan for getting frisky while double dating. They were also pretty dang handy for the $1.00 a carload night at the drive-in.

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Don Coatney Quote:

Originally Posted by Norm's Coupe

Did you guys never hear of the old saying? "Get a room".

Norm;

"Dont tell me you never got frisky in a car"

Hmmmm......I guess some folks probably even thought that those sturrup looking things hanging from each side were just for aiding people getting in and out of the car. Definately better to have the 4 door sedan for getting frisky while double dating. They were also pretty dang handy for the $1.00 a carload night at the drive-in.

Thats what I am talking about:cool:

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..It's always interesting to see uncommon options.The only business coupe I've personally owned was a 1937 Chrysler and it had a storage area behind the front seat covered by a curtain.

My 38 Plymouth Coupe has the spare tire on a mount behing the passenger seat, a small shelf unit behind the driver seat, and a large package tray on top of those two things.

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The Auxiliary Seat Coupe (ASC) was not an option but was marketed as a separate body style. Production figures were kept separate from the Business Coupe (TPC) and were listed separately on price lists, etc.

The first Mopar ASC models appeared in 1939 for Dodge, DeSoto and Chrysler in all series except the cheapest Dodge. All series also offered the regular Business Coupe.

Another version of the auxiliary seat coupe was a special body built by the Hayes Body Co. It had a seat back installed in the rear compartment while the seat cushion was a two-piece affair that folded up out of the way. The Hayes coupe was sold as a Town Coupe by Dodge (DeLuxe) and Club Coupe by DeSoto (Custom) and Chrysler (Windsor, New Yorker, Saratoga).

And contrary to many writers, no, the 1939 Chrysler Victoria coupe was not the Hayes coupe but the ASC coupe.

The new 1940 bodies had the ASC body style offered in all car lines while in 1941 the Plymouth carried on with the 1940 body and the ASC models. The rest, Dodge, DeSoto, and Chrysler, received a completely new body for 1941 with the Club Coupe replacing the ASC model. Plymouth was facelifted for 1942 and got its version of the Club Coupe to replace the ASC.

1940 Plymouth coupe production -

P9 Roadking -

213 Business Coupe : 25,679 USA / 1,066 CDN

--- Auxiliary Seat Coupe : 360 USA / 0 CDN

P10 DeLuxe / Custom * -

TPC Business Coupe : 31,671 USA / 574 CDN

ASC Auxiliary Seat Coupe : 21,741 USA / 433 CDN

1941 Plymouth coupe production -

P11 Roadking - 22,818 USA / 936 CDN

213 Business Coupe : 172 USA / 822 CDN

P11-D DeLuxe -

TPC Business Coupe : 15,862 USA / 0 CDN

ASC Auxiliary Seat Coupe : 204 USA / 0 CDN

P12 Special DeLuxe ** / Custom ** -

TPC Business Coupe : 23,484 USA / 367 CDN

ASC Auxiliary Seat Coupe : 37,010 USA / 342 CDN

* - Custom was Canada-only series in 1940 and production was included with DeLuxe series.

** - Special DeLuxe series sold in USA and as Custom in Canada.

The placement of the spare tire, with a shelf or platform behind the front seat, etc., depended upon the model year. Spare tire was moved from the front compartment to the trunk for 1939, and the next year the passenger compartment was enlarged enough to hold the auxiliary seats.

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Hi Bill,Thanks for the information on the ASC and TPC body styles.All new information for me. Ralph

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Bill, thanks for the info BUT my car is a P11, not a P11D or P12 and it has the ASC stamped into the body number plate on the firewall, also the ASC part works as follows......the rear seat back is hinged at the top edge near the bottom of the rear window, to operate you lift the bottom edge of the rear seat back towards the rear of the front seat, whilst holding it up you then lift each individual rear seat bottom up into the cabin/trunck division wall. At the same time you are folding the seat bottoms into the division wall the single steel spike that holds the seat bottom from the floor is folding into the underneath part of the seat.....once each seat bottom has been folded up against the division wall, then you lower the rear seat back that you have been holding up back onto the division wall covering up the folded seat bottoms.........whats left to look at is just the rear seat back but NO seat bottoms to be seen, just the carpeted floor........this all sounds like what you have described for the 1939 Hayes bodied coupes......anyway my car is a P11, Factory RHD ASC Coupe...........I don't think there were/are too many around.......and whilst Plymouth marketing may have indicated a "different" body style, the actual body itself is the same as the Business Coupe in the doors, rear quarters, windows etc........andyd

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Well since coupes were originally 2 seaters 3 in a pinch, the club coupe is the black sheep of the family, neither a true coupe nor a sedan. And you can't take a white coupe seriously. In substitute for the next 1000 words...............

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I rest my case.

But, these black coupes are difficult to keep clean.

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