michael.warshaw Posted October 14, 2009 Report Share Posted October 14, 2009 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Elder Posted October 14, 2009 Report Share Posted October 14, 2009 46-48 D24, it is the same as mine. Your plymouth will need a white knob. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael.warshaw Posted October 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2009 i bought it thinking it was for my plymouth because that is what the vendor said, but it doesnt match, i am gonna sell it how much are they worth you think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg g Posted October 14, 2009 Report Share Posted October 14, 2009 Didn't you just pay a price for it??? How much do you think it has gained in value since you bought it??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm's Coupe Posted October 14, 2009 Report Share Posted October 14, 2009 If you bought the lighter from a vendor, Greg is correct, it's worth what you paid for it. If you over paid for it, then it's worth less. If that's the case, I'd put it on the shelf and keep it as decoration until I got at least what I paid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael.warshaw Posted October 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2009 well considering that i bought it under false pretences, i dont know what its worth know, makes sence>?>?????????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plymouthy Adams Posted October 14, 2009 Report Share Posted October 14, 2009 one needs to be fully aquainted with the accessories of their model when buying...some people (sellers/dealers) assume falsely that if fits one mopar it is for them all.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm's Coupe Posted October 14, 2009 Report Share Posted October 14, 2009 Michael, This is one reason we said you should buy a parts book and do a little searching in the archives of this site. There are at least several threads with pictures of the lighter and other knobs in the archives. When it comes to prices though. It's anybody's guess. I've seen boxes full of various knobs and lighters at swap meets over the years. Some of those boxes say $1 for anything in the box. Other vendors will charge what ever the traffic will bear for each knob or lighter. So.......some may charge $10 for that lighter and up. So........that is why we said it's worth what you paid for it. By the way, other parts are priced about the same way. Whatever the traffic will bear. Bottom line. The only way to prevent this from repeating itself is to know exactly what you are looking for when you buy it. Otherwise, you'll end up with a lot of parts you can't use, and have no idea what car they belong to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael.warshaw Posted October 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2009 Michael' date='This is one reason we said you should buy a parts book and do a little searching in the archives of this site. There are at least several threads with pictures of the lighter and other knobs in the archives. When it comes to prices though. It's anybody's guess. I've seen boxes full of various knobs and lighters at swap meets over the years. Some of those boxes say $1 for anything in the box. Other vendors will charge what ever the traffic will bear for each knob or lighter. So.......some may charge $10 for that lighter and up. So........that is why we said it's worth what you paid for it. By the way, other parts are priced about the same way. Whatever the traffic will bear. Bottom line. The only way to prevent this from repeating itself is to know exactly what you are looking for when you buy it. Otherwise, you'll end up with a lot of parts you can't use, and have no idea what car they belong to.[/quote'] true thanks for the info, appreciate it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desoto1939 Posted October 14, 2009 Report Share Posted October 14, 2009 Mike: You should beable to unscrew the knob off the element which is the part that goes into the dash. This is the small wire coil that get red hot to light the cigar or cigarette. Then all you would need to find is just the correct button end. Try to get some interior pictures or a factory catalog for your car at a swap meet. This will help you greatly when looking for parts. Do not feel bad we all have done this very same thing over the years. A vendor will tell you what ever he thinks you will beleive. You have to know your car and this willtake some time and you will get the hang of going to Hershey. When goint ot Hershey if you find a part do not offer full price. Hershey always has inflated prices just because its Hershey and this is where the big guns come out to play. You could have seen this just buy looking at some of the cars that are going to be judged. Alwasy try to barter for a lower price and if they will not move on the price then its up to you to accept their price or move onto another vendor. It also depends on how bad you want the part. I have been doing this for over 20+ years. Here is an example i found a complete glove box lid with the clock for my 39 Desoto and it was complete and notheing was broken. The vendor had $150 on the item. I looked it over to insure it was complete then put it back down and then looked some more at his site. I then took out a $100 bill and then put this on top of the item so he could see the money, remember the movie show me the money. I did not put the $150 on the item. He saw the 100 and took my offer. But i started low and was willing to come up to his price. Play the game it can be lots of fun bartering and you will get good at doing this. Rich Hartung Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Maxwell Posted October 14, 2009 Report Share Posted October 14, 2009 ...which were reproduced, therefore, they are much brighter and whiter than the typical knobs that have yellowed from exposure to sun, dirt, oils and nicotine over the past 60 years. As for the value... like most items from Dodge, Desoto and Chrysler, they sell for less than the Plymouth equivalent for accessories. This is because those items would more likely be standard or added at point of sale for the more expensive cars in the Chrysler family. Therefore, the Plymouth versions tend to be much more scarce and consequently demand a higher price today. I recommend you run a search on ebay for the Dodge lighter and see what they go for. Good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm's Coupe Posted October 14, 2009 Report Share Posted October 14, 2009 The guys are right. Some vendors really don't know what they have. A lot of them just guess. Some years back (around 2000) I was looking for another temperature gauge for my coupe. Even back then those things ran between $75 and $150 if they worked. At a large local swap meet I found a Mopar box with a NOS temperature gauge in it. Someone wrote on the box it was for 1946 - 48 Plymouth. The vendor said he wanted $25 for it. I thought great, not only new, but real cheap. Well.........I opened the box and pulled it out for a look. It was no where near a P15 temp. gauge. It was way too big, and the wrong color. Told the vendor I didn't know what it fit, but it wouldn't fit a P15 and then put it back in the box, and laid it back on his table. That guy swore up and down that it would fit a P15, even after I told him it wouldn't. He claimed that's what he was told when he bought a bunch of parts from someone. Told him that guy was wrong too. He still kept saying it was. Finally told him to believe what he wanted to, but I wasn't buying it for my P15, then walked away. So..........maybe he really thought it was for a P15 simply because that's what he was told. That's the problem with buying parts from anyone. Sometimes, they don't even know what they have, so we have to know what we are looking for, so we don't end up with stuff we have no use for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Neon Posted October 14, 2009 Report Share Posted October 14, 2009 I met a guy that swore that my 1946 Plymouth was built in 1934 because his boss had "one just like it with suicide doors." After arguing with the guy for a few minutes about how a '34 was different than a '46. I finally just said, "I guess that the title's wrong, and all of those parts that I've bought from various sources for a '46 Plymouth for the last 20 years just happened to fit on my '34 Plymouth. I am so glad to have met you to set me straight." Then I got in my P15 and drove away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobT-47P15 Posted October 15, 2009 Report Share Posted October 15, 2009 You know, you CAN use gauges from a 42 Plymouth in a P15. Just change the face plate from the bronze color to the P15 color backing piece. We changed the entire face on a 41 Plymouth temp gauge....take off original, held on by 2 screws. Attach P15 one and ready to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young Ed Posted October 15, 2009 Report Share Posted October 15, 2009 Other mopars work too. I am running a chrysler temp gauge in my plymouth. I changed the face and the mounting plate from the back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm's Coupe Posted October 15, 2009 Report Share Posted October 15, 2009 Actually, I no longer need that temperature gauge. When I rebuilt the engine, I put an aftermarket one under the dash. But.......I did find an original one not long after. One of the guys in the local Ford V8 club had one for the P15 and he gave it to me free. Then about three years ago I found the whole P15 instrument cluster, with ignition switch, dash lights, headlight switch, etc., including the whole wiring harness at a swap meet real cheap. That temperature gauge was intact and also worked. So........then traded that temperature gauge even with a vendor for an NOS new in the box gas tank sending unit. So.....I still have the one from the Ford guy in a box if I need it someday. Won't take out the aftermarket gauge unless it goes bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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