The 49 P15 looks pretty bad......

[BobT-47P15]

Here are some pics after leafy limbs have been cut off the tree.

The reason the main part of that walnut tree is still there is - the

owner is trying to sell it to a logging company. So it will sit a bit

longer. But, the coupe won't be going any place soon anyway.

Have checked with a local glass company, and one of their men is

supposed to stop by the car today and try to remove the rear

glass. Hopefully it will come out without breaking. Reason for that

is these curved glasses are getting harder to find. All the rest is flat

glass.

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[Tony Cipponeri]

OOOOOOH S--T. Tony C

[Young Ed]

Thats a sad sight Bob.

[greg g]

That's a shame. Suppose you could make a roadster out of it.....

[Joel Torres]

OOOOOOH S--T x's 10 = i just choked on my coffee oh my god i keep telling my wife the tree in front of our house is going to fall and i dont have the money to pay someone to cut it this is going to happen to my house and car soon

[woodscavenger]

I'm gonna cry.

As for the back glass shouldn't you be able to use a razor knife and just cut away the outside layer of the gasket and pop it out?

Looks like you now have a lot of good SS trim looking for a new home.

I think we're gonna see this on one of those "life comes at you fast Progressive care insurance commercials."

[glendale]

that is the worst thing i've seen in a long time. I feel for you.

[Young Ed]

Bob I think Don Cs idea is looking better. Got a big chunk of 4x4 and a floor jack and push the roof back into place. Go from there.

[1955 plymouth]

:eek:I live in northwest Washington and I have about 3.5 acres of large Fir and Cedar trees growing all around where I park my cars. I feel for your loss, :mad:not sure if your neigbor is still alive or not? I think tonight I will go home, fire up the chainsaw and get busy to make sure this will never happen to me.

[BobT-47P15]

Just had a call from the glass company.....their man went over and removed the rear

window.....apparently in good condition. He's going to bring it by here at work in a

while. I just figured it would be quicker and easier to let an expert with the right

equipment do it than for me to mess with it and goof it up. And, those rear windows

seem to be harder to get nowadays.

[blueskies]

Bob I think Don Cs idea is looking better. Got a big chunk of 4x4 and a floor jack and push the roof back into place. Go from there.

Looks to me like the damage goes beyond the roof... looks like the body has pulled away from the trunk lid in one of the pictures, and driver's side of the cowl looks pretty wrankled too...

What a drag, Bob... Hope it can be salvaged in some way. What are the odds of the tree hitting an exact bulls eye?

Pete

[BobT-47P15]

I spoke with the neighbor who owned the tree. Of course, his home insurance

company won't pay for anything. Never hurts to ask, though.

Don't know if I want to go to the trouble of fixing the car. The side (quarter) behind

each door is bowed out some. The cowl is bent a bit where the windshield posts

joined. I see more edge of the trunk lid on the drivers side, which means maybe the

body is pulled down some.

Might be simpler to find another car and use pieces plus the engine, tranny, etc.

Took a close look at the wheels a few days ago......noticed that the right rear

has lug Studs with Nuts, while the other three have the usual lug Bolts. So, that

means some previous owner has changed the axle or pressed in studs....will have

to take it apart to see. But, the differential may be usable for the convert.

Edited May 16, 2009 by BobT-47P15

[Don Coatney]

You can always take the neighbor to court. I would think the tree owner is liabale.

[Plymouthy Adams]

it is reasons like this that the home owner policy does not cover unlicensed vehicles in a shop, yard etc etc..now had the tree been on the proeprty line Bob could have cut the limbs off his side, upsetting the balance of the tree and lessened the chances that it would ever fall in his direction....

claim it as a loss on the income taxes...sell what you can and follow that yellow brick road to the end of the rainbow....lol

[BobT-47P15]

True, Norm. Most home policies do not pay if your tree blows down onto a neighbor.

They have to use their own policy for house or car. Not exactly fair on one hand,

but that's how it is nowadays. As you said, if they were cutting down a tree and

caused some piece of wood to fall, there may be coverage.

Now, if the city had been out to that neighbor's property and had ordered him

to cut the tree, had that fact on record, and the neighbor had simply ignored

that order---then his liability coverage might pay. But that doesn't seem to

apply here.

We had one case once where our customer had left his older pickup with a

fellow who was to paint it. The painter had the pickup in his attached garage

to work on it. His house caught fire, the truck burned, and his home insurance

did not pay for the truck. Just like the coupe, there was no insurance on the

pickup since it was not quite ready to be driven.

So, I'd say I'm just S.O.L.

Never had such a thing happen before, but you can never tell what things

lie in store.

If I decide the car has to go, then I'll strip off all usable parts I can get

and stash them with the thought of finding another P15 that might need

them.

[greg g]

In the vein of locking the barn door after the horse has bee stolen, in retrospect, I guess for the 75 to 150 bucks it costs a year, for classic car insurance, I guess it make a wise investment to cover unlicensed projects and parts cars. Which reminds me my policy covers my acculumulated parts and other items used for the support of the car. You might want to check witht he holder of you Convertible policy, and see if they will cover this one as a parts car. Just a thought but maybe some good might come of that.

just did a quote for my studebaker for 7500 , plus 1000 parts coverage, was 104 per year for up to 5K miles.

Edited May 15, 2009 by greg g

[blueskies]

In the vein of locking the barn door after the horse has bee stolen, in retrospect, I guess for the 75 to 150 bucks it costs a year, for classic car insurance, I guess it make a wise investment to cover unlicensed projects and parts cars. Which reminds me my policy covers my acculumulated parts and other items used for the support of the car. You might want to check witht he holder of you Convertible policy, and see if they will cover this one as a parts car. Just a thought but maybe some good might come of that.

Might also want to check into agreed value insurance while you are at it... I've had my car insured for an agreed value long before I had it on the road, because all that money was sitting there in the garage even though it couldn't be driven around. If the house had burned down or whatever, it would have been covered without haggling over the average value of a '50 Plymouth, which is substantially less that what I have into it.

Pete

[Don Coatney]

Greg' date='

That's not a bad idea. I'm not sure if my classic car insurance covers parts stored or not, haven't checked into that. But.........I did check with my homeowners insurance. My policy covers says it covers anything (including car parts) stored in the house, shed or garage. However, don't think they would cover a whole car like Bob has.[/quote']

The key words here are house/shed/garage. Parts stored outside under a tree are most likely not covered. If the entire car with the parts still attached to it were stored under structural cover then most likley the insurance carrier would pay.

[Dennis Hemingway]

I don't get it.

When the the wind picked up an EZ-UP at a car show and it blew onto my 48 and then onto my buddy's 69 Cougar, the owner of the EZ-UP's home owners insurance paid for the damage to both cars.

If they cover that why wouldn't they cover the tree falling?

Dennis:D

[BobT-47P15]

Dennis.....I'm not sure just why they covered it, but may have done so under his liability section....as he

had control of how well the tent was secured. If he didn't do it right, then he was negligent, and the liability

coverage applied.

State Farm, which I have on the convert, will NOT insure an old car at agreed value

on an Antique policy unless it is finished and in very good condition. Or a very good

original.

Have to send in pictures of the exterior, the interior, and the engine with the application.

The policy will also cover up to $500 worth of spare parts

for use on your antique. But, per a conversation with a claim rep, it

would seem a parts car is not included for coverage.

You can cover an average or less condition old car like a regular newer car, but not for agreed

value. It would be adjusted simply as a used car of its vintage in event of a loss.

Edited May 15, 2009 by BobT-47P15

[55 Fargo]

That's a shame. Suppose you could make a roadster out of it.....

That is not a bad idea, maybe a little too much fabbing for Bob's taste, but very doable.

My uncle did 37 Ford coupe into a little roadster. the roof was all smashed up too.

Maybe someone coudl get the mechanics for a P 15 rag top, and make her into a convert, I would try this, with a nice specimen like Bobs.

[Olddaddy]

That picture needs to go into the dictionary as the definition of tragedy...................

[RobertKB]

Bob, that sucks. With that kind of weight and that kind of force, I would also be worried about the frame, front and rear suspension, etc. Best bet is likely to look for a donor car.......in this case it would be the recipient of donor parts. You seem to have the knack of knowing where all the old cars are in your neck of the woods and hopefully you could find a project that would match your car. Good luck!

[Young Ed]

Bob didnt you send me a picture of a frameless coupe body sitting somewhere near you?

[PatS....]

Well, Bob, here's an idea!

This is real, not a photochop