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I found a good 'original' ,,,nothing fancy,,,but good, 3 window Plymouth coupe, close by my home. How do you determine how much you pay for something as rare as this?? I dont see many if any 3 windows around these parts,,,mostly all family sedans, with the two seater rather than the just one!! Any body else 'know' how to price or value something like this?? Thanks for any advice!!

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The way I figure is find the top dollar value in the old car value guide and start subtracting to fix what isn't right. But don't calculate your own labor as free, figure what a shop would charge. It's amazing how far down you can go in a big hurry. Best rule of thumb, buy the best one you can afford because it's almost impossible to do it yourself for as little!!

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I paid 1500.00 for my 49P17, ran and drove it but decided to do a complete frame on restoration, motor, trans, frontend, chrome, glass, rubber and paint. I agree find the best you can afford, but make sure its really what you want to spend time and money. Great fun, but like any hobby you will always spend more than they are worth.

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I'd get John Burke to do the negotiations for you, then you won't pay more than 300 bucks. Lots of times if the seller just wants to get rid of a piece of juk clutteiring up their garage or yard, you can get em fairly cheap. Now that you have put a rare appilation on the thing, you have raised the value in your mind. Three windows in general aren't that rare. 49 was the first year Plymouth switched to that body style, quite a few were mad in 50.

go to the magazine store and get an Old Cars Price guide, and a Hemmings looks for similar cars for sale and look at the condition guide. If it is a running

survivor (an original car that has not been restored, renewed or rebuilt) it may be worth more in that all except maintenence parts are original to the car.

The other factor is how much you can afford. But start low and see how the negotiations go, Is anyone else interested inthe car???? How eager is the seller to get it gone. Lots of things to consider beside the actual value of the car. But the price guide and hemmings will give you an idea. Also go to ebay and check out the plymouth section for completed deals on similar vehicles.

There are two on now, here is one at 2500.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1950-Plymouth-Coupe-3-window-57-000-original-miles_W0QQitemZ260072260620QQihZ016QQcategoryZ6387QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

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My "Old Cars" price guide values them from between $600 to $15,500 with an average driver valued at around $4000. I always ask the seller to just tell me what the lowest amount is he'll take and then make my decision from there.

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I went to the mannheimgold site and looked up m:confused: my 47 DeSoto Custom Suburban. Good is worth $10,000, Excellent $18,000, and Show $24,000. I think mine is between Good and Excellent. A buyer may think otherwise. Is there a set of definitions or a guide to determine the condition?

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Lot of truth in that statement..years ago I bought a 49 Club Coupe..looked real good in the ad...so I took a gamble and got it..before buying I inquired with a transporter that I had done business with before and luck be with me he was going to be in that town for a deliverly so getting it back to the east coast was smooth and very affordable...long story short..I got it for the wife to drive and said that if I got 50 percent of what it was advertized to be including the paint I would be ok..turned out better than that..I could not have got a rough looker runner and make it look as nice especially the complete new interior for that price...in truth I would be better served doing that now but as I rather like working on them I will stay with my fixer uppers..so if you want to invest time and money..it is not hard..or if you just want to drive it....you be way ahead looking about for a real nice completed car..better deal in the long run.

Worst part is that my short legged wife could not drive it and did not feel safe behind the wheel..said if it was an automatic it would have been just up her alley...so it went bye bye as it was really not what I wanted at that time..I did keep it about 3 years...

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as more people get into the the older cars..more are turning to less known cars and as such price is ever increasing. Getting hard to find a beater at a decent price these days..the electronic pages of today have made these cars accessable to everyone and desire to own brings the big dollars out. Barns finds are getting rougher as it is hard to even find a barn these days...so in reality..if you have found a nice solid car or a particular body that has eye appeal..the value will be what you wat to pay versus what the man will sell for...lot of owners of these cars now have Barrett Jackson stars in their eyes and think they all have a rare valuable car...you are wise to ask what it is worth but it is only a ball park for the average that you can assume..personal inspection will determine the final worth

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