Crank pully issues.

[OUTFXD]

To catch up people not in the know. I had a mechanic disappear with some of my motor parts. 

 

I am now collecting the missing parts.  The problem I am now facing is... I didnt take it apart, so now I dont know how it goes back together. First. does the collar go on first and the pulley/balancer bolt on to it, or do the pulley/balancer bolt to the underside of the collar and fit between it and the  crank

 

Also, which side of the pulley goes against the balancer?  The flat side or the dished side?

 

Thank you in advance!

[P15-D24]

 

[OUTFXD]

Thanks!  It answers some of my questions!

 

Though from the way it looks,  the hub goes on after the balancer/pulley assembly.  The hub is the threaded part meaning the bolts would need to be passed through the balancer/pulley to the hub with the bolt heads facing the engine and the threads facing away from the engine.  This just seems backwards to me. But if that is the way it is, then so be it.

[kencombs]

That pic is misleading, IMO.   They show a pulley/hub combo then just the  hub, but no pulley to attach to the hub shown.   Some years had separate pulleys that bolted to the hub, others has a one piece pulley/hub.   So they've tried to show too much in one illustration.

 

The ones I've seen with the separate pieces had a hub, pulley and dampener.

 

The on the multipiece the hub goes on first, then the bolt on part, whether dampener or just a pulley.

 

Aftermarket documentation, tends to have a lot of errors like that, as compared to factory manuals.

[P15-D24]

I looked in the factory parts book for a better pic and it also shows the hub and pulley as one piece. I checked both the Plymouth and Dodge books and couldn't find  a more detailed view. 

[desoto1939]

If looking at the post above this one and refer to number 13 you will notice that the vibration dampener and the pully can come as a complete unit. refer to number 47 on the grid below. The numbers on my grid are also factory number and come from a Mopar vender Tristate catalog that the Mopar supliers used and is the same as the michell catalog number.

When I replace the vibration Dampener and pully is was a single unit that already had the hub on the unit.

 

 

Rich hartung

Desoto1939@aol.com

 

Edited March 19 by desoto1939

[Dartgame]

hub goes on first, next pulley, then damper.

[OUTFXD]

Thank you!

[OUTFXD]

Got my hands on some "new" parts.  First Pic is engine compartment as left by the mechanic. Fourth pic is new timing marks

[OUTFXD]

[OUTFXD]

Okay, needing more help.  Trying to get her back together.  The mechanic put the crank hub back on without the pulleys (visible in the engine bay pic).  I tried mounting the pulley several times but can only get 4 of the 6 screws to start, and yes I know that 2 of the holes are closer together than the other 4.

 

The problem I am currently facing is how to get the hub OFF the crank so I can install the complete assembly (I have two crank hubs,  One on the engine, one in the "new" harmonic balancer/pulley assembly)

 

HALP!

[Sniper]

Harmonic balancer puller ought to pull the hub

[OUTFXD]

Alright. Thanks! 

 

Was kinda hoping for a put peanut butter in the hole and screw the nut down tight kinda work around.

[Dartgame]

Not sure I understand the issue. With mine there is a mounting pattern as you noted, and all 6 line up on mine. It should be a matter of spinning the pulley and balancer to the position that the all bolt holes line up ? But as sniper noted you can pull the hub and verify as needed. Please post what you find, it would be interesting to know how this works out for you.

[OUTFXD]

Having some free time I rumaged through the tools left by the mechanic and it turns out HE has a balancer puller so my question was moot!

[Harley PHD]

Did you try both sides of the pulley?

[Los_Control]

22 hours ago, OUTFXD said:

Alright. Thanks! 

 

Was kinda hoping for a put peanut butter in the hole and screw the nut down tight kinda work around.

That only works on pilot shaft bushings   🤣

 

Hoping you have the right parts, this feature of a bolt pattern that only goes on one way ... in your case could be so the timing marks are in exact position.

I have seen the same "feature" when tightening a torque converter to a flex plate ... the bolt pattern only allows one way ... probably for balancing in that case .... I dunno

Just sucks because you can only see 1 bolt at a time and have to start it, then rotate engine to next bolt ... see it does not match and spin the engine back and remove the bolt and then start over ... you eventually get it right.

 

Just one of those things a mechanic have to work through. .... Nice the mechanic left a puller for you.

I'm thinking you will need a puller for the job, but should be pretty easy from there. Seems like you can see the bolt pattern and just be sure they line up this time.

 

A professional Dodge flathead 6 mechanic should have caught this .... not many of those running around as mobile mechanics .... Live and learn.

[OUTFXD]

I pulled the grill for better access. turns out the hub was turned in a different direction than I thought.  *rollseyes*. now I am on to a different missing part. trying to locate a water pump pulley. 

 

Kinda blows my theory out of the water about the mechanic taking stuff home to paint.  I painted the water pump pulley when I replaced the water pump last year.