Does anyone have a pic of their shift linkage?

[OUTFXD]

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[OUTFXD]

Got the linkage looking somewhat right.  Now I have a nice tight shift into 1st and 3rd, reverse feels off.  and second gear is just absent.  The shift lever moves twice as far as is needed to go from neutral to 1st.  but there is no second and no feeling of it trying to go into gear., it just moves.

 

 

Making sure the 1st/3rd 2nd/reverse transition linkage was moving smoothly I found this little darling hiding under the steering column.  it is some sort of adjustment for the transition linkage.  and it appears to be turned WAY in. Anyone have knowledge of the procedure to set it correctly?

[MarcDeSoto]

If you have not watched this 1949 MTSC filmstrip yet, you should as it is all about the the transmission and adjusting the shift linkage.  There is also the booklet there that you can read or download.  

 

https://mymopar.com/mtsc-1949-volume-2-6-transmission-fundamentals/

[wagoneer]

9 hours ago, MarcDeSoto said:

If you have not watched this 1949 MTSC filmstrip yet, you should as it is all about the the transmission and adjusting the shift linkage.  There is also the booklet there that you can read or download.  

 

https://mymopar.com/mtsc-1949-volume-2-6-transmission-fundamentals/

What I find interesting is how nominally complex jobs like replacing all the synchronizers in the trans were so “normal” then, and presumably relatively affordable while the same now is major surgery and costs a fortune today. 
 

 

I like the dialog between the gruff mechanic having to get the job done, and the parts guy who just wants to learn. In the background a smorgasbord of interesting vehicles .

 

 

I guess it was always in my mind that these jobs we struggle with were simple one-two hour jobs for the trained mechanic.

[OUTFXD]

So... spent a couple hours on the linkage.  Cleaned it up, messed with the fingerlock adjustment.   eventually I just unbolted the linkage from the steering column and pulled it up.  BAM second gear. 

 

Lined it up with the pivot on the steering column and it is about an inch longer than the shift column will allow.

 

in short.  It takes more movement to shift into second than the steering column will allow.

 

I am beginning to see why the linkage was all bent up. They where trying to artificially shorten the linkage.

 

I will try to put some thought to it.

Edited February 9, 2023 by OUTFXD

[OUTFXD]

ok, after watching Chrysler Master tech again.  I have  a couple questions.  

 

When in neutral my shift lever is not  horizontal.  Meaning the linkage  STARTS higher than it should, reaching the top of its throw sooner than it should preventing the shift linkage from moving the selector lever enough to engage second gear.

 

There is no additional adjustment on the linkage itself.

 

Is it possible for the selector lever on the transmition to be installed in the wrong position?

Edited February 9, 2023 by OUTFXD

[Los_Control]

A very wise man once said ..... If it does not feel right, it probably isn't.

 

Seems neutral should be middle & horizontal. At least my truck is.

 

Every inch of pull taken away from one direction, is less one inch of push in the other direction.

 

Seems your linkage photos do line up with others peoples photos ..... Are they the same linkages for the same car? 2 door, 4 door, wheel base, overdrive....

Your linkage does not look anything like the linkage for my truck. ..... Why should they ..... same time different model cars would be different.

 

Maybe disconnect all linkage, then with vehicle properly supported .... verify you can get all gears working from shifting it manually under the car.

 

It is possible someone changed the linkage rods in the past, trying to fix a problem then created another? ..... You do not have correct rod to work with your car?

 

My truck for example, the adjusting nuts on the rod worked loose. Now the rod moves on the shift lever, damaging the threads for the shift rod making it impossible to do a proper adjustment.

My goal is to remove it & then run a tap down the threads to correct the problem.

 

Just plausible something like this happened to your car, instead of fixing what they had, they installed a used rod that does not work?

[Saskwatch]

I will send you a picture of this transmission & selector lever position within the next hour for you to compare ?

[Sniper]

Maye you have the wrong shifter rod?

[DJ194950]

The whole steer column can be rotated.  Affects all shifter positions.

 

Did its position start in the right orientation? 

 

Where to start? Mine were all screwed up by previous owners/mechanics were almost nothing could work as is - took week+ to figure where rods went and adjustments another week.

 

The clutch over center setup was totally screwed up with a added welded on spring attachment point that hung down below the frame.  Took another 2-3 days and reading and rereading the repair manual on the setup points to get it working.

 

Just as my car as purchased had motor (lost, ) trans and all linkages in trunk, pieces all over in car.  Somehow almost parts otherwise were in the car. 

 

Maybe someone here has a starting mount point for the column?

[OUTFXD]

47 minutes ago, Sniper said:

Maye you have the wrong shifter rod?

Thought has crossed my mind!

 

[OUTFXD]

35 minutes ago, DJ194950 said:

The whole steer column can be rotated.  Affects all shifter positions.

 Hmmmm that needs looking into.  when the trans is in Neutral,  the shift lever is notably higher than horizontal.

 

 

[MarcDeSoto]

Mine was too on my 48 DeSoto.  Very easy to align.  Just loosen the shift lever nut and put shift lever in horizontal postion.  Then re-tighten the nut.  Takes about 20 seconds for me, but my body is off.  

[OUTFXD]

I removed the voltage regulator again, and this time gave it  a proper inspection.

 

 The first two sets of points (If I am correct Bat and Gen) (default closed) where in great shape and I gave them a just in case polishing.

 

The last set of points (FLD I believe) (default open) where worn nearly flat as was severly pitted.  I cleaned it up but was concerned about the lack of material.

 

Is this normal and can the points be replaced and/or do I need a new voltage regulator?

[Sniper]

Point contacts can be replaced, if you have the proper tools, knowledge and more importantly the proper contacts.  It is easier to get another regulator though.