OUTFXD Posted February 2, 2023 Report Posted February 2, 2023 okay, take two. Got a new grommet for the shift linkage as the old one literally fell to pieces. Getting to look at it. I am guessing they put one in. then when it interfered with them trying to get the second one in, they just bent it out of the way. Two weeks later they get it on the road and it wont go into second gear! For no reason! Anyways, Looking for a pic of the under hood shift linkage how it is supposed to be, on the shift column, preferably from the front( radiator-ish). Quote
Sam Buchanan Posted February 2, 2023 Report Posted February 2, 2023 (edited) Since you asked so politely ? I stepped out to the shop and grabbed this pic, tranny in neutral, please excuse the gunk, that is the anti-corrosion system: Edited February 2, 2023 by Sam Buchanan 1 1 Quote
OUTFXD Posted February 2, 2023 Author Report Posted February 2, 2023 Thank you for the pic! It confirms there is a linkage issue. on my car. The linkage near the oil filter is bound up with the linkage going farther back in the car, it also passes the starter with about 1/4" clearance. as you move it up (shift to second). it twists back further and binds up the linkage, preventing it from shifting into second. Further confirmation, just before the grommet gave up, I could actually shift to second gear. so with the additional space garnered by the self destructing grommet, I could avoid the bind enough to get into second gear. Need some thinks on how to fix it... Quote
MarcDeSoto Posted February 3, 2023 Report Posted February 3, 2023 That rubber grommet seen in Sam's pic near the oil gauge line is very important. It's literally what holds the linkage together! I bought mine from AB and when I tried to squeeze it on, it cracked in half. The rubber had petrified because of age. So I called AB, and he said "oh you got a dried out one, I will look for a soft rubber one." So he sent me another one that was soft enough to slip on and work. 1 Quote
LeRoy Posted February 3, 2023 Report Posted February 3, 2023 1 minute ago, MarcDeSoto said: That rubber grommet seen in Sam's pic near the oil gauge line is very important. It's literally what holds the linkage together! I bought mine from AB and when I tried to squeeze it on, it cracked in half. The rubber had petrified because of age. So I called AB, and he said "oh you got a dried out one, I will look for a soft rubber one." So he sent me another one that was soft enough to slip on and work. Most of the rubber I've bought from AB is old and dried out. They are pretty good about replacing it with more dried out rubber. 1 1 2 Quote
Booger Posted February 3, 2023 Report Posted February 3, 2023 Get that cleaned up Mister. On the double. My old Plaza would have issues right there with the finger lock out 1 Quote
OUTFXD Posted February 3, 2023 Author Report Posted February 3, 2023 trying to get a better look brought about the opinion that I would need to remove the part for better inspection. Inspect the following picture and see if you can spot anything amiss! Quote
Saskwatch Posted February 3, 2023 Report Posted February 3, 2023 Is there any product we could apply to that bushing that would help to revive/ keep it from further deterioration? Silicone aerosol,WD 40 etc? Quote
OUTFXD Posted February 3, 2023 Author Report Posted February 3, 2023 Sorry Skwatch no idea. You would think that there is something out there! so. a few minutes with a cinderblock and a deadblow hammer and my shift linkage can pass as serviceable. 1 Quote
Saskwatch Posted February 3, 2023 Report Posted February 3, 2023 (edited) 26 minutes ago, OUTFXD said: 26 minutes ago, OUTFXD said: Sorry Skwatch no idea. You would think that there is something out there! so. a few minutes with a cinderblock and a deadblow hammer and my shift linkage can pass as serviceable. 26 minutes ago, OUTFXD said: Sorry Skwatch no idea. You would think that there is something out there! so. a few minutes with a cinderblock and a deadblow hammer and my shift linkage can pass as serviceable. I think that looks much better ? Edited February 3, 2023 by Saskwatch Pressed the wrong button ??♂️ Quote
James_Douglas Posted February 3, 2023 Report Posted February 3, 2023 5 hours ago, Saskwatch said: Is there any product we could apply to that bushing that would help to revive/ keep it from further deterioration? Silicone aerosol,WD 40 etc? Rubber Lube also called Sil-Glyde and Ru-Glyde. James 1 1 Quote
OUTFXD Posted February 3, 2023 Author Report Posted February 3, 2023 No joy. Still no second gear, linkage still looks like it is binding. My theory is the bend isnt steep enough and needs to be "adjusted". This would shorten the overall length (C) between mount points(A and B ) and change the angle where the grommet mounts to the steering column. anyone have a pick of their linkage outside the car? Quote
Sniper Posted February 4, 2023 Report Posted February 4, 2023 Here's your problem, you are using a Harbor Freight hammer. Everyone knows a Snap On hammer would have fixed it without ever leaving the tool box. lol Sorry no constructive advice. 1 Quote
DJ194950 Posted February 4, 2023 Report Posted February 4, 2023 The Snap ON hammer would have bent the rod to the West. The HB hammer bent the rod eastward-- Never work! ? 2 Quote
Saskwatch Posted February 4, 2023 Report Posted February 4, 2023 OUTFXD - tried sending you a photo here …. NIX tried again via pm , I “think” it went through ? 1 Quote
Saskwatch Posted February 4, 2023 Report Posted February 4, 2023 The distance from from end to end is approximately 15 “ on this one….. going to respectfully suggest that the bend is too steep , maybe try straightening out a tad ….. see photo in private message ? 1 Quote
OUTFXD Posted February 4, 2023 Author Report Posted February 4, 2023 Yours does indeed look like it has a less acute bend, I'll take mine out tomorrow and test it! Thanks again! Quote
Saskwatch Posted February 4, 2023 Report Posted February 4, 2023 Keep us posted ok? …. Would like to see the full size picture of Jacqueline that is with your name ….. you have done an admirable job from that first picture you posted when she rolled up your driveway ! ?? 1 Quote
OUTFXD Posted February 4, 2023 Author Report Posted February 4, 2023 Thank you very much! Far from done, but ecstatic with the work done so far! She has been very responsive to work and I am pleased as punch with her! 1 1 Quote
OUTFXD Posted February 4, 2023 Author Report Posted February 4, 2023 Not a current pic but the best I have at this time. When spring hits and it stops raining I will get some new pics! Quote
Saskwatch Posted February 4, 2023 Report Posted February 4, 2023 Excellent work , That is an AWESOME ride ‘ two thumbs up ?? Thank you for sharing 1 Quote
MarcDeSoto Posted February 4, 2023 Report Posted February 4, 2023 The postwar Plymouth was, I think, the last auto to retain the "boat prow" styling popular in the from about 39-41. 1 Quote
MarcDeSoto Posted February 5, 2023 Report Posted February 5, 2023 I was taking a pic of my oil gauge line and got a pic of my shift linkage on my 48 DeSoto. 1 Quote
OUTFXD Posted February 8, 2023 Author Report Posted February 8, 2023 (edited) That cements it. Pic one shows the linkage solid parallel with the bit from the steering column. Pic two shows the exsisting linkage (albit from a slightly different angle) at an angle passing bellow the steering column bit! Thank you MarkDesoto and Saskwatch for all the help! Edited February 8, 2023 by OUTFXD Quote
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