One ton overload springs

[Brent B3B]

Looking for some clarification on the 1 ton rear overload set up between years. 
in doing some work on the B4D, I saw the drivers side overload springs had a “bend” in them where they hit the stops. (And the stops are riveted on)

just didn’t look right so, I went over to the B3D (51) chassis to look at a possible swap and they showed different (Beefier set up on the 51)

 

my question is, how are other 1 tons set up? Are the stops riveted or bolted? Are there any other bent overload springs? 

Kinda seems weird someone would cut off the riveted stops off the 51 and I can’t imagine what it would take to bend two springs on the 53

 

 

[wallytoo]

sure looks like the bolted-on stops are an add-on after the factory.  the riveted stops are the same style used on the medium duty trucks.  i’d also guess that the bent spring was once straight.

[47 dodge 1.5 ton]

 That lower spring retainer looks to be in an odd location and would contact the helper with a load?  Not sure about the bolt on helper, but guessing many of the springs were rebuilt through the years. I know my grandfather used to say his 1 ton dodge would haul anything. He was a mason and would haul a whole job on his truck if it fit. Don’t think he worried about Weight or DOT back then.

[Lingle]

I know its a 1.5 ton but on my B3F it had helper/overload springs that looked like your 2nd picture(straight) and had riveted on stops(like picture 1).

[Merle Coggins]

I agree. On my B2C the overload springs are like Pic #2 and the stops are riveted like your Pic #1. The overload springs in Pic #1 also look rather light compared to what I'm used to seeing, although I know there are many spring options listed in the parts book. 

[wallytoo]

looks to me like the 2nd picture helpers have been "augmented".  there appear to be about 5 original lower leaves in the helper pack, and there appear to be an additional 4 leaves above the original helper pack.

 

 

 

helpers on my b-1-fa

 

 

Edited March 21, 2022 by wallytoo

[bkahler]

On 3/20/2022 at 1:27 AM, Brent B3B said:

Looking for some clarification on the 1 ton rear overload set up between years. 
in doing some work on the B4D, I saw the drivers side overload springs had a “bend” in them where they hit the stops. (And the stops are riveted on)

just didn’t look right so, I went over to the B3D (51) chassis to look at a possible swap and they showed different (Beefier set up on the 51)

 

my question is, how are other 1 tons set up? Are the stops riveted or bolted? Are there any other bent overload springs? 

Kinda seems weird someone would cut off the riveted stops off the 51 and I can’t imagine what it would take to bend two springs on the 53

 

 

 

 

I can understand 1-ton trucks having such heavy duty springs.  What I've never understood is why my 1/2-ton would have similar overload springs.  I wonder how these springs affected the 6,000 GROSS tags that were on my truck

 

 

 

 

[Young Ed]

7 minutes ago, bkahler said:

 

 

I can understand 1-ton trucks having such heavy duty springs.  What I've never understood is why my 1/2-ton would have similar overload springs.  I wonder how these springs affected the 6,000 GROSS tags that were on my truck

 

 

 

 

 Because back when these things were just work horses they would load them until the bed physically couldn't hold anything. The 1/2 ton rating was commonly ignored. 

[bkahler]

Just now, Young Ed said:

 Because back when these things were just work horses they would load them until the bed physically couldn't hold anything. The 1/2 ton rating was commonly ignored. 

 

That might explain why one of the side walls of my bed is bowed out about 1" ?

[Brent B3B]

7 hours ago, bkahler said:

 

 

I can understand 1-ton trucks having such heavy duty springs.  What I've never understood is why my 1/2-ton would have similar overload springs.  I wonder how these springs affected the 6,000 GROSS tags that were on my truck

 

 

 

 

Those stops look the same…. my 1/2 ton doesn’t have overloads at all.

 

must be that spring option Merle mentioned.

 

[JBNeal]

here's a '48 B-1-D-116 without aux.springs:

 

...a '49 B-1-D-126 with aux.springs, bolted cast stops with rubber bumpers:

 

 

...a '50 B-2-D-116 with aux.springs with bent ends, bolted cast stops:

 

...a '51 B-3-D-126 with aux.springs, bolted cast stops:

 

...and a '51 B-3-B-108 with probably an aftermarket overload spring: