ggdad1951 Posted January 24, 2022 Report Posted January 24, 2022 Sounds like you shouldjust put a permanent 220V outlet in the shop.... Quote
bkahler Posted January 24, 2022 Author Report Posted January 24, 2022 16 minutes ago, ggdad1951 said: Sounds like you shouldjust put a permanent 220V outlet in the shop.... Ya know, that's a darn good idea! I never really needed it before but it's simple enough to do so why not 1 Quote
bkahler Posted January 30, 2022 Author Report Posted January 30, 2022 (edited) The weather hasn't cooperated much the past week or two but I've managed to make some progress on a couple of fronts. On the lower seat cushion I opted to add one of the seat air valves so that necessitated disassembly of the lower spring cushion. That was a pain but I got it done. Welding the valve in was easy but the reassembly process was just as much a pain as the disassembly was. Lately I seem to be forgetting to take progress shots of the work I'm doing. Not sure of this is an old guy thing or I'm just to busy to keep up I've also made more progress on the exhaust install. I'm more or less ready to weld the down tubes to the flanges so as soon as I can get the welder moved up to the garage (maybe this week) I can take care of that task. After that the rest of the install should be relatively straight forward. When I bought my truck it had a couple of 6,000 Gross Weight tags screwed to the front fenders. Back when I sent the sheet metal to be painted I was torn between putting the plates back on the truck or welding the holes shut. I eventually decided to leave the holes as I figured the tags were part of the trucks history. Fast forward to present day and I'm now one step closer to being able to installing the tags. I had my nephew recreate the tags from an image that I sent him and this is what I received. The plan is for me to clean up the metal plates and then apply the new vinyl stickers. Edited January 30, 2022 by bkahler 2 Quote
bkahler Posted January 30, 2022 Author Report Posted January 30, 2022 Almost forgot. The muffler has the following markings. I'm assuming this means the muffler is bi-directional. Quote
Brent B3B Posted January 30, 2022 Report Posted January 30, 2022 3 hours ago, bkahler said: When I bought my truck it had a couple of 6,000 Gross Weight tags screwed to the front fenders. Back when I sent the sheet metal to be painted I was torn between putting the plates back on the truck or welding the holes shut. I eventually decided to leave the holes as I figured the tags were part of the trucks history. Wow, I didn’t realize that was an actual tag....... my b3b, someone hand painted the 6000 on the bed sides. You do good work Brad! Quote
bkahler Posted January 31, 2022 Author Report Posted January 31, 2022 3 hours ago, Brent B3B said: Wow, I didn’t realize that was an actual tag....... my b3b, someone hand painted the 6000 on the bed sides. You do good work Brad! Thanks, I appreciate that My truck came from your neck of the woods, Hailey Idaho. I don't know if it's true or not but I was told trucks in Idaho were required to have their weight rating written on the sides. To my knowledge we never had that kind of requirement in Nebraska where I grew up or any of the surrounding states for that matter. Quote
bkahler Posted January 31, 2022 Author Report Posted January 31, 2022 Ok, welder is in place, just need to hook it up Quote
ggdad1951 Posted January 31, 2022 Report Posted January 31, 2022 we had that here in MN..but painted on Quote
bkahler Posted January 31, 2022 Author Report Posted January 31, 2022 3 hours ago, ggdad1951 said: we had that here in MN..but painted on Interesting. I wonder what the reasoning was behind having the gross weight labeled on pickups? Quote
Young Ed Posted January 31, 2022 Report Posted January 31, 2022 3 hours ago, bkahler said: Interesting. I wonder what the reasoning was behind having the gross weight labeled on pickups? I think it was a tax thing. You paid fees based on what you could haul and then displayed it so they could somehow tell if you were cheating. Not sure how they really knew what the cargo weighed in at 1 Quote
Los_Control Posted January 31, 2022 Report Posted January 31, 2022 Washington state also had the gross vehicle weight to be displayed on side of vehicle ... Simply a tax you pay to drive your truck. The more you paid the more you could carry and list on the side of your truck. As I understood it, I had a 1 ton flat bed 1960 Dodge I paid tonnage for when doing yearly license. I had 3/4 ton trucks & also 1/2 ton trucks ... you simply paid tonnage on them when getting yearly license. I always thought this was just normal & everybody did the same. When I had a 1966 Elcamino, 283/4spd I actually was forced to pay tonnage on it because technically it was a truck. Years later as I got away from that state, I learned it was not a federal tax, was a state tax and only affected the state you lived in. Couple days from now I do need to go license my 1/2 ton chebby daily driver ... is a simple $74 & no hidden fee's. No Gross weight tax. Quote
John U Posted January 31, 2022 Report Posted January 31, 2022 54 minutes ago, Young Ed said: I think it was a tax thing. You paid fees based on what you could haul and then displayed it so they could somehow tell if you were cheating. Not sure how they really knew what the cargo weighed in at It was what you licensed for on your plate Quote
Los_Control Posted January 31, 2022 Report Posted January 31, 2022 Just now, John U said: It was what you licensed for on your plate I think a really honest example of states & their fees. When I did become disabled & driving was least thing on my mind, drivers license expired. Later when I was mentally/physically able to drive. I wanted to get my license back. Washington state wanted 1rst I take a new driving course.($100) Then with a pass of completion I could then take the driving test at the price of $75. I asked the lady on the phone what will it cost to get my license back? She could not answer that, you just need to jump in and go. My license expired in New Mexico ... They held my license up until I paid a $75 fee for them to enter the proper information in the system to say I had no holds or reasons to not get a new license. I paid. I moved to Texas ... I wanted a driver license & they charged me $25 for it. Gross vehicle weight is just more extortion states do. Quote
JBNeal Posted February 1, 2022 Report Posted February 1, 2022 one man's state-sanctioned extortion is another man's highway pothole filler I cannot tell if that muffler is round or oval...if it is round, is there an advantage to having the inlet and outlet be in the same horizontal plane other than to keep the exhaust pipes in the same horizontal plane? Quote
bkahler Posted February 1, 2022 Author Report Posted February 1, 2022 Taxes makes sense. I guess even though I never noticed any Gross Weight tags on the sides of trucks in Nebraska doesn't mean they weren't used, I just don't recall ever seeing any. Brian's point about getting pot holes filled is valid but I often wonder just much of the actual taxes collected to fill the holes actually make it to the pot holes ? Quote
bkahler Posted February 1, 2022 Author Report Posted February 1, 2022 10 hours ago, JBNeal said: one man's state-sanctioned extortion is another man's highway pothole filler I cannot tell if that muffler is round or oval...if it is round, is there an advantage to having the inlet and outlet be in the same horizontal plane other than to keep the exhaust pipes in the same horizontal plane? It's a round muffler. I've been struggling a little in orienting the muffler. For one thing the down pipes provide a fixed point in space for where the inlet to the muffler needs to be. The way I currently have it with the inlet lower than the outlet keeps the tail pipe up closer to the frame. I'm not sure if that's good or bad and at the moment it looks like the hangers might not fit properly, i.e. to short. Until I get the down pipes welded to their respective flanges it's kind of a juggling act to get things to fit together. Once they are welded I'll have a fixed point in space that is solid and I can actually hang the muffler and play with the orientation of the inlet and outlet. Basically once the welding of the flanges is done the rest should sort of fall into place. That's the hope anyway Quote
bkahler Posted February 7, 2022 Author Report Posted February 7, 2022 I finally managed to weld the two flanges to the down tubes yesterday. For some reason my camera didn't focus very well on this shot. Probably because the welds aren't some of my best I suppose the good news is that you can't really see the welds once they are installed ? I went to install the pipes and found the gasket that was sent with the kit was not correct for the front pipe. The front down turn on the manifold is kind of an odd size so I ended up spending a bunch of time searching for one that will work. I think I found one and it's on order but I don't know when it will arrive. Hopefully by the end of the week.... In the meantime I'll go ahead and assemble the exhaust system so I can figure out the muffler orientation and hanger locations. 3 Quote
bkahler Posted February 8, 2022 Author Report Posted February 8, 2022 Just got a text from the upholstery shop. Seat cushions are ready to be picked up! If weather holds I hope to pick them up Friday or Saturday 3 Quote
bkahler Posted February 12, 2022 Author Report Posted February 12, 2022 Painting is more or less at a stand still due to cold weather but I'm making some progress in other areas. I did get a couple of new exhaust flange gaskets but I will still need to elongate the mounting holes for the front down pipe but at least it fits over the tube. I'll tackle that issue tomorrow. In the mean time I started the process of replacing the two angled bed rails that are spot welded to the bed sides. Some of the holes were burned out with a torch or torn at some point by previous owners. Having found correct replacements I wanted to replace them. So I finally got a chance to use the spot weld cutter I bought probably 25 years ago! It took me about 1/2 to get this far. The other thing that I will need to do is figure out how to straighten the side walls. This one is pretty decent along the top tube but down where the angle gets fastened to the bed wall it's out by about 1" or so. I'm not sure about the other one but I thought one of them was fairly straight and the other had a curve to it. I should have the bed wood in my hands in a week or two so hopefully I'll be busy milling and cutting it to size in the near future. 1 Quote
bkahler Posted February 14, 2022 Author Report Posted February 14, 2022 I spent a little bit of time yesterday tinkering with the exhaust system install. The front manifold down turn fitting is really kicking my butt. It's a really odd size and I've not been able to find any gaskets that fit properly between the pipe and the manifold. Here's a picture of the opening on the manifold. I'm a little concerned about how little metal there is for a gasket to be sandwiched in. The down tube flange is considerably wider as shown in the pictures. I'll keep looking but for the time being I've installed what I have and I'm moving forward with the rest of the install. I'm basically done with the down pipes, and the muffler portion and am currently working on fitting the tail pipe and adding hangers. DCM sent along three flexible hangers so I'm working the best places to install them. As I was researching exhaust system installs I looked at Mark's installation and it appears his rear mount is a fixed bracket and not flexible. Was the original exhaust system hard mounted throughout or were there any flexible hangers? If it was all hard mounted how does that work with an engine that was soft mounted? In my stash of parts I have a hanger similar to the ones shown above although it has been mangled pretty badly. Brad 1 Quote
ggdad1951 Posted February 14, 2022 Report Posted February 14, 2022 Those style of hangers do allow some flex and such (at least in the one direction). Quote
bkahler Posted February 14, 2022 Author Report Posted February 14, 2022 1 hour ago, ggdad1951 said: Those style of hangers do allow some flex and such (at least in the one direction). I can see where side to side flex could take place and with an engine that rocks slightly in it's mount, that makes sense. I doubt engines move much front to back, at least they shouldn't anyway ? I don't think the fixed mount would work well with one of the Power Wagon twist frames! Quote
ggdad1951 Posted February 14, 2022 Report Posted February 14, 2022 Nope. I'd bet those dump right behind the cab. Quote
bkahler Posted February 14, 2022 Author Report Posted February 14, 2022 I was doing a little more digging into exhaust gaskets and I'm wondering if maybe a gasket like this is what I should be using on the front down pipe? Quote
JBNeal Posted February 14, 2022 Report Posted February 14, 2022 (edited) I think those beveled donuts work if there is a beveled seat for them to mate to...the guy who did my exhaust put some sort of slight expansion on the downpipes for a floating flange so that the gasket contacted the flanges and tip of downpipe, pipe extension went slightly into the exhaust manifold. The flanges could line up and seal with the gasket, and the floating flange wedged the downpipe into place, sealing it off. This is similar to how the downpipe is attached on the QuadCab, works well and is self-aligning with bolt torque. Edited February 14, 2022 by JBNeal Quote
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