BobT-47P15 Posted September 2, 2007 Report Share Posted September 2, 2007 The radio grilles are the same, with one exception......the center bar running from side to side. One is smooth, the other is ribbed. The dash is from a 1947 model according to the i d tag on the door frame. The trim is smooth. So....I wonder from what year is the one with the ribs. The ribs match the bottom of the chrome below the speedometer and the lower trim on the glove box door. At least they do on my car.....which is a 47, and I think has original dash chrome. Another Plymouth mystery....... Anybody have an answer??? Just noticed a guy selling a grille on ebay.....says it came off a 48 model.....is smooth style....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Griffin Posted September 2, 2007 Report Share Posted September 2, 2007 Bob, just guessing but it could be the differences between Plymouths Special Deluxe and Deluxe models if not a change of year feature. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Lustig Posted September 2, 2007 Report Share Posted September 2, 2007 Is it me or do the vertical bars look different? Ribbed on the left and smooth on the right. Difference in the models maybe? Special Deluxe vs Deluxe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobertKB Posted September 2, 2007 Report Share Posted September 2, 2007 My 1948 Dodge D25 Special Deluxe Club Coupe has the radio grille like the one on the left with the centre bar smooth. The vertical bars look a bit like they are ribbed but it is just the way they are pressed with a slightly concave dip and are not ribbed. Dash was originally woodgrained like the Plymouths but I painted it gray when I did the car many years ago. Would eventually like to go back to woodgrain but don't know if I really want to go to the trouble of pulling the dash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young Ed Posted September 2, 2007 Report Share Posted September 2, 2007 I've been noticing a few little differences in some of the parts I've been working with. The 1 I parted out I believe to be a very early model. It had a door lock with the non figure 8 cover on the pass side and a plug on the drivers side. Looked factory. Now when working with the dash I noticed that one has 2 holes down towards the bottom outer edge of the curved section that my other 2 dashes doesnt have. One of the holes still has a woodgrained plug in it so I know its a factory hole. Perhaps at first the holes for convertible tops were on all dashes until they realized that was a waste? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm's Coupe Posted September 3, 2007 Report Share Posted September 3, 2007 If you look closely at the radio grill with the ribs you'll see holes in the screen where the emblem goes. My guess is that it isn't a P15 radio grill. It could be out of a DeSoto or Chrysler. One way you might confirm that is to measure the hole for the clock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RHDSP15C Posted September 3, 2007 Report Share Posted September 3, 2007 It came off a RHD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knuckleharley Posted September 3, 2007 Report Share Posted September 3, 2007 Bob,I don't know the answer to your question,but I sure could use a nice Special Deluxe button to use on my 48 if you or anyone else has one to sell. I also need unpitted dash chrome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobT-47P15 Posted September 3, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2007 The only real good Special Deluxe round emblem I have is in the car. The one on the left in the picture is in need of repainting. As you can see, the right one had no emblem when I got it at the Springfield swap meet recently. I buy these items when I can to save for if I ever get another P15 and need the particular thing. What I really need to do is get up some play money and then go for the N O S items that appear on ebay from time to time....and put together a real nice dash. My stuff is good daily driver quality on the car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobT-47P15 Posted September 3, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2007 Went out to the garage.....looked at the grille with the ribbed piece....the clock hole on both grilles are the same. There are holes in the speaker screen for the round Plym emblem--it's just missing. The ribbed piece will come off....held on by 3 tabs thru holes in that grille. I guess a person could add that ribbed part by drilling the holes. Could find no part number on back of the grille. Always fun to find something different on these cars. Ed....the top switch on the P15s is on the right end of the dash, not down below. What model Plym are you looking at? I suspect they did relocate the top control at some point. Perhaps the deal with only one door lock goes back to the time when they thought it was safer for people to exit the car on the right, or curb side. So they only put a lock on that side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young Ed Posted September 3, 2007 Report Share Posted September 3, 2007 The dash came out of a 2dr sedan. I believe a special deluxe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plymouthy Adams Posted September 3, 2007 Report Share Posted September 3, 2007 this thread was cause for me to go look at mine real close..it is a 48 sedan and it does not have the ribbed bar across the radio grille....as the 41 is toatally different, the 42 has the Plymouth emblem affixed..this is either a early rendition or modification..there is a ribbed piece for the glovebox..could it be that this is just a second one of them pieces affixed here yb some modifier..??????? just guess folks...did not want to unwrap all my stuff in the box..maybe someone can do a measurement... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm's Coupe Posted September 3, 2007 Report Share Posted September 3, 2007 Guys. Just remembered. There was a similar thread concerning this same subject some time ago on the old forum. I believe there was a conclusion as to why some had ribbed bars and some had smooth. Don't remember the conclusion, but if someone really wants to know and wants to take the time, they can search the Archives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikemaker Posted September 3, 2007 Report Share Posted September 3, 2007 You are correct Norm. I remember that post from about 4 years ago. But I can't remember the conclusion. I have a 48 parts book that shows the center piece as a ribbed piece rather than flat. Mine is flat on my 49 p15. Could it have to do with different plants, Detroit, Los Angeles? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin (UK) Posted September 3, 2007 Report Share Posted September 3, 2007 My 47 Convertible has the ribbed section. My (ex) 48 Coupe didn't have it. Here's a picture of the radio in the 47. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobT-47P15 Posted September 3, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2007 Hi Mike......that plant location thing is one possibility. I don't really care which is which, I guess. Just find it interesting there were differences. I compared the strip from the grille to the strip on the glove box....grille piece is notably shorter. So--nobody moved a part from one to the other. Next.....if you notice in Mikes picture, the vertical ribs in the radio grille rather match the vertical ribs below the radio and on the ash tray. Ribs on the ash tray line up with ribs on the clock delete cover. It seems the folks who designed these cars gave such things a bit of thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobT-47P15 Posted September 3, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2007 On some of the "street rod" old Plymouths, they do away with all that nice (in my opinion) dash trim, and wind up with something like this...which is in a P15. Rather hard to beat the old Plyms and Dodges original stuff. OR, DeSoto and Chrysler. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plymouthy Adams Posted September 4, 2007 Report Share Posted September 4, 2007 nothing against you DeSoto or Chrysler owners..I own a D24, couple D19's and the P15 and the D24 is by far the prettiest dash of the era...even put on in my D19 coupe...the 41 is just to quaint..no pazazz... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony_Urwin Posted September 4, 2007 Report Share Posted September 4, 2007 1949-50 Plymouth is hard to beat for beauty and simplicity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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