Adam H P15 D30 Posted July 17, 2018 Author Report Posted July 17, 2018 Hello All, I edited my title so I can keep the same thread going. That said, the previous owner decided to epoxy prime the car black before he put it up for sale about 7 years or so ago. Needless to say I was tired of driving a fading, chalking, primered car after the first year but I pressed on. Also driving a black car gets kinda hot in the summer. In my previous post I was working on getting pops to paint it as I am not a good painter He wasn't too thrilled about the idea so we made a deal, I would wet sand all the old primer off and he would paint the roof and satin clear the entire car. I thought that was the cat's meow until I started wet sanding and wet sanding and wet sanding, you get the idea. After about 40 hours of wet sanding I found a decent older repaint with some obvious red oxide primered spots and some rust under the tail lights I needed to fix. What it used to look like: After A LOT of wet sanding: Bumper aprons were a lost cause with no origional paint to be found, also I had to find a similar green to cover the rust repair below the tailights. Rustoleum hunter green was pretty close so I shot the bumper aprons and the rust repair with that over some red oxide primer. Not a perfect match but it looks like an older grandpa repair.... Used Rustoleum Almond for the roof: Spent the money for a good 2 part automotive Urethane clear since this car never sees a garage and rarely even sees a driveway. A red oxide pin stripe to between the 2 colors to tie it all together? Finished product: I intend to paint the wheels either red oxide color or almond. Jury is still out but opinions welcome! Adam 2 2 Quote
JOHN EDGE Posted July 17, 2018 Report Posted July 17, 2018 I vote almond on the wheel. Nice work. Like your skills and thought process keep posting your progress 1 Quote
casper50 Posted July 17, 2018 Report Posted July 17, 2018 Almond vote from me. Looks way better than it did. Quote
Ranger Posted July 18, 2018 Report Posted July 18, 2018 Enjoyed the post. Looks like a fun ride. Quote
RNR1957NYer Posted July 18, 2018 Report Posted July 18, 2018 Great post - love what you've done! (and count this as another vote for almond wheels, but I couldn't fault you for picking up the red from the stripe!) Quote
pflaming Posted July 19, 2018 Report Posted July 19, 2018 Wheels. To my ete red or almond will take the eye away from the beauty of the two tone green and almond. I would go matching green or black. Paint individual rims the four colors, take pictures and compare. Whatever, beauty is in the eye if the beholder. That is a great looking car, I like how you kept the weathered green, nice touch. Quote
Adam H P15 D30 Posted July 27, 2018 Author Report Posted July 27, 2018 (edited) Just an update: I have been driving the car some and found an issue with a bog at full throttle, yesterday I noticed the was some smoke also. I've always heard how well these little webers ran right out of the box so the investigation started. I always noticed the bog since the manifold/carb change but I knew it just wasn't right. Earlier (page 1) I stated I had to siamese the Langdon air cleaners because I spaced the carbs a little closer together than I should have and as a result I might have an airflow problem. Pulled the air filters and went for a drive, no more bog and it ran even better. Looking closely at the air filters and covers I found the problem and I'm wondering if anyone else who purchased Langdon's air filters have come across the same issue? The covers have an inside diameter of 6 7/8 inches and the outside diameter of the provided element is 6 3/8 inches, which leaves about a 1/4 inch gap between the element and the cover effectively choking the incoming air. I can't believe this hasn't come up to Langdon as I am sure he sells a lot of these buttttt, I did modify his design which could've aggravated it. Langdon puts out excellent products so I think my modifications are the likely cause. The Fix I hope: I am going to find 5"-5.5" elements and trim the base plate to match. I will update when it is completed. Adam Edited July 27, 2018 by Adam H P15 D30 Quote
Adam H P15 D30 Posted July 27, 2018 Author Report Posted July 27, 2018 I really like the way the air filters came out so I hope I can use them. If not, I'll be talking to John Edge about other creative options Quote
RNR1957NYer Posted July 27, 2018 Report Posted July 27, 2018 Saw this set up on a '41 Dodge at the Syracuse Nationals last weekend - looks like it really flows! 1 Quote
JOHN EDGE Posted July 28, 2018 Report Posted July 28, 2018 8 hours ago, Adam H P15 D30 said: I really like the way the air filters came out so I hope I can use them. If not, I'll be talking to John Edge about other creative options Like your ideas and keep posting your progress. I worked a lot on the carbs I got from tom and we talked about my early drivability issues. Never fond of the air cleaners so I made my own set up now Quote
classiccarjack Posted July 28, 2018 Report Posted July 28, 2018 9 hours ago, Adam H P15 D30 said: Just an update: I have been driving the car some and found an issue with a bog at full throttle, yesterday I noticed the was some smoke also. I've always heard how well these little webers ran right out of the box so the investigation started. I always noticed the bog since the manifold/carb change but I knew it just wasn't right. Earlier (page 1) I stated I had to siamese the Langdon air cleaners because I spaced the carbs a little closer together than I should have and as a result I might have an airflow problem. Pulled the air filters and went for a drive, no more bog and it ran even better. Looking closely at the air filters and covers I found the problem and I'm wondering if anyone else who purchased Langdon's air filters have come across the same issue? The covers have an inside diameter of 6 7/8 inches and the outside diameter of the provided element is 6 3/8 inches, which leaves about a 1/4 inch gap between the element and the cover effectively choking the incoming air. I can't believe this hasn't come up to Langdon as I am sure he sells a lot of these buttttt, I did modify his design which could've aggravated it. Langdon puts out excellent products so I think my modifications are the likely cause. The Fix I hope: I am going to find 5"-5.5" elements and trim the base plate to match. I will update when it is completed. Adam I am looking forward to reading your update... ? Quote
casper50 Posted July 28, 2018 Report Posted July 28, 2018 This is what I did. Had the cleaner custom made. Cos $140 I believe. Quote
Adam H P15 D30 Posted July 28, 2018 Author Report Posted July 28, 2018 1 hour ago, JOHN EDGE said: Like your ideas and keep posting your progress. I worked a lot on the carbs I got from tom and we talked about my early drivability issues. Never fond of the air cleaners so I made my own set up now I've been following you thread Quote
Adam H P15 D30 Posted July 28, 2018 Author Report Posted July 28, 2018 @casper50 Just a quick question, Is that you vacuum advance going to manifold vacuum? If so, how does it run? I have my HEMI plumbed that way because it's 11:1 and I have the timing backed way off so I need the vacuum advance at idle. Quote
casper50 Posted July 28, 2018 Report Posted July 28, 2018 Yes but that was before I knew better and replumbed it. Quote
Adam H P15 D30 Posted July 28, 2018 Author Report Posted July 28, 2018 6 hours ago, Don Coatney said: Lumber Jack option. I see your log manifold is alive and well and still not installed on the Dodge. Get going Quote
Adam H P15 D30 Posted July 28, 2018 Author Report Posted July 28, 2018 1 minute ago, casper50 said: Yes but that was before I knew better and replumbed it. That setup works well with higher compression engines. Quote
Adam H P15 D30 Posted August 21, 2018 Author Report Posted August 21, 2018 So I found smaller diameter air filters (sorry forgot to take a picture) from WIX. They have a nice application by dimension chart on their website. Below is a picture of me trimming the base down for the smaller filters. I am still confused as to why they caused a restriction when so many others use them without issue, but it runs much better now with no difference in performance with or without air filters. Quote
Adam H P15 D30 Posted August 21, 2018 Author Report Posted August 21, 2018 Now all that's left is to paint the rims and install new tires. Going to put 235/60/15 tires in the rear to offset the tall 3.0 rear gears. Currently has 235/75/15 rear tires, the smaller tires should put me at 2800 rpm @ 70mph. I think I will paint the wheels Almond with an orange/red pinstripe. Adam Quote
Adam H P15 D30 Posted August 25, 2018 Author Report Posted August 25, 2018 Change of plans on the wheels Quote
Andydodge Posted August 26, 2018 Report Posted August 26, 2018 Chrome..........yummy....Chrome is good, we like chrome.............well I do at least.............lol.............I'm not a "patina" person but really like how you have given the 'ol girl a refresh and a cleanup.........the chrome wheels will set it off even more............andyd Quote
JOHN EDGE Posted August 26, 2018 Report Posted August 26, 2018 My solution to the air cleaner concerns #1-engine heat distorting air filters no protection to elements #2-limited air flow with bell type air cleaner #3-fuel perculation with extended idle creating unstable idle quality solution #1-create an air cleaner that protects the filter system from the engine environment #2-provide better air flow to carbs #3-introduce cooler air to the carbs Quote
Adam H P15 D30 Posted August 26, 2018 Author Report Posted August 26, 2018 Air cleaners work well with slightly smaller elements. Since this is basically a sheet metal intake and much taller, hopefully shouldn’t have the heat problems at slow speeds the cast aluminum intake could have. Adam Quote
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