starter options for my D24

[Mailliwten@aol.com]

Hello lady's and gentlemen,

got a question about starter  options to avoid bell housing and fly wheel swap.. Have a d19 motor and trans that I picked up locally that have been recently rebuilt came out of a D19 with a starter with manual starter clutch assembly.. My D24 starter has the drive spring and screw assembly and push button on the dash... Are  there any starters out there that will work on the D19 set up for with my dash push button start

[dpollo]

just use your D24 starter.  

You could also use the starter found on Chryslers which have a solenoid  mounted on top but this can interfere with the gearshift levers.

The only starter complications I have run into are the 33-4 Plymouth. Some 218/230 swaps and the mixing of earlier parts with 57 to 59 bell housings.

[Mailliwten@aol.com]

 thanks dpollo for the quick  response.; I really appreciate it ....I can use the d24 but I will have to swap bell housings around because that starter is a little to long and gets in the way of the oil lines..  That d24 bell housing moves the starter down and to the right out of the way of the oil lines.... I am just looking for some what of an easy fix.. didn't really want to start messing with the trans if I didn't have to

[dpollo]

The Chrysler (sometimes Desoto)  solenoid controlled starter will do the job as it is shorter.

Your biggest challenge will be to find one.  Bell housings are not that hard to change.  You can leave your D24's housing in the car if you undo the fluid drive from the crankshaft  Mark its position at TDC first as the bolts are unevenly spaced.

[Niel Hoback]

Why not just move the oil lines to another tap on the oil gallery. You can make new, longer, oil lines using off-the-shelf brake lines and fittings. Then use the longer starter.

[49D-24BusCpe]

'Mailli',

    Niel has got it right - just move your oil lines.

    As along as your D-19 replacement engine package (was a "Fluid-Drive" unit, AND the engine) has an 8-bolt crankshaft, you're all set. Just use ALL of your D-24 stuff - bell housing, fluid coupling, transmission and starter!

Walt

[Don Coatney]

This might or might not help. All connection ports on the main oil galley are common so you can use any one for oil line supply connections.

[Mailliwten@aol.com]

you guys are genius... when I get home tonight take a good look at those oil lines...

[Mailliwten@aol.com]

Like I said you guys are genius. I looked at this 7 ways to sunday and still couldn't  come up with a solution. I am going to do a little creative tube bending for the drain and  tuck the discharge line behind the starter off the #4 bearing. put a tee in the line for the pressure gauge. thinking this might work

Edited December 5, 2016 by Mailliwten@aol.com

[Mailliwten@aol.com]

[busycoupe]

Congratulations on an elegant solution to your problem.  It may just be the camera angle, but it looks like the oil line from the bottom of the filter passes very close to the starter cable stud. 

[Mailliwten@aol.com]

Thanks busy,

It is a little close. I might need to make a little adjustment. Or a little fiber glass tape and than a little black tape. 

[bluefoxamazone]

I'd like to hook on a question on this tread... has someone ever found a solution to increase the RPM on these starter to improve starting?

grtz

[casper50]

put 8 or 12 volts to your 6 volt starter.

 

[bluefoxamazone]

Hey CAsper, 

thanks for the reply,

I like your solution but will it not harm the starter? I am interested in starting the car more than once... :-)

 

[casper50]

people have run 12 volt to a 6 volt starter for years.  I haven't.  My 6 volt does just fine

 

[49D-24BusCpe]

    My Asche Brother's 6-volt '55 Chrysler 300 starter has been great for several years on my 12-volt converted Flathead D-24 Business Coupe.

Walt

[Plymouthy Adams]

Chrysler motor turns a bit faster than the Dodge, DeSoto and Plymouth (DeSoto shared the faster motor couple years/applications)  The fast motor is 4900 free speed...the rest are 4300 and couple even slower yet at 3900.   However, keep in mind this speed come at the cost of additional amperage.  The 4900 motor draws 410 amps at load....compared to 335 at load for the 4300..better have the battery reserve and cable up to par for this use...

Edited December 10, 2016 by Plymouthy Adams