1951 Plymouth Rear Window Rubber Gasket

[RobertKB]

I am getting ready to buy the rubber gasket for the rear window in my 1951 Dodge D39 Business Coupe. This is a Canadian Dodge and therefore the same body as a Plymouth. Steele has a gasket for a club coupe but I would like to know before ordering if the rear window on a club coupe is the same as on a business coupe. Both windows are curved but I am just wondering if anyone has information on the dimensions.If someone has a club coupe, I would appreciate the dimension for width and height if they could take the time to measure them. I will be contacting Steele but am not sure if they will know so thought I would check here first.

 

 

Edited September 20, 2016 by RobertKB

[rallyace]

i will measure the rear window on my 51 Cambridge later today and post it here.

 

[RobertKB]

Thankyou. I have the rear window out so I can measure the glass or the opening. Things will be a bit wider with the gasket and trim in place. I appreciate the help.

 

[knuckleharley]

What is that pickup sitting beside that nice old Canadian Dodge?

[Young Ed]

I can look up the part #s when I get home. I believe they are different. Robert send me a PM if I don't post an update

[DocProc]

Good looking cars you got there!

[Plymouthy Adams]

at the lower corners with my glass with rubber in place and trim on...the measure is of the rubber to rubber and is 50 inches....the same for the center..rubber to rubber is 13 1/2 inches...

[JerseyHarold]

I have a '51 Plymouth business coupe and the rear window is different than the club coupe.   Can't remember where I read it.

[jhm1mc13]

I have a 1951 MOPAR parts book (USA) and it lists the rear glass P22- 2DR sedan as 1367 367 and 3W coupe as 1337 038.  Can't say for certain it is a crossover to the Canadian Dodge.

Jim M

[JerseyHarold]

54 minutes ago, jhm1mc13 said:

I have a 1951 MOPAR parts book (USA) and it lists the rear glass P22- 2DR sedan as 1367 367 and 3W coupe as 1337 038.  Can't say for certain it is a crossover to the Canadian Dodge.

Jim M

The P-22 2 door sedan is probably the 'fastback' body.  Does your book show a listing for the P23 club coupe and 4-door sedan?  Those would be closer in size/shape to the business coupe glass.

[DJ194950]

Reprint of Hollander interchange book 1946-56 shows that the 51 Plymouth  business coupe and club coupe are Not the same glass. What is different? Does not give measurements-sorry.

 

DJ

[Young Ed]

34 minutes ago, DJ194950 said:

Reprint of Hollander interchange book 1946-56 shows that the 51 Plymouth  business coupe and club coupe are Not the same glass. What is different? Does not give measurements-sorry.

 

DJ

If its the same as 50 the lower corners are smaller on the bus coupe. Way back Dad bought 2 50 plymouths club and bus coupes. The business coupe was the parts car but only it had the back window. We put that one in the club coupe temporarily and the lower corners were short.   

[jhm1mc13]

i believe the short wheelbase P22 included the Suburban,Fast back and 3 window business coupe.  The P23 was the 2 and 4 door sedans.

[RobertKB]

I phoned Steele to ask about the gaskets. I apparently was looking under Cranbrook but the three window coupe would have been a Concord and they do actually have the right gasket. I have ordered what I need and will repost when I receive everything and check for fit. All I know right now is that I had better not break the window as it would be hard to replace!!!

Thanks for all the help and information. This forum is great!

Pickup is mid 50's I believe but not mine and gone from where it once sat.

 

 

 

Edited September 21, 2016 by RobertKB

[RobertKB]

This is why I need the windshield and rear window gaskets. Trunks fits much better than shown as it has some rubber wedged in placed to keep the trunk lid from rubbing against the body and damaging the paint.

Gone from this

to this

[bshimkat]

I have a 1951 Plymouth business coupe, and I bought my rear window seal from Steele. It fit perfectly.

[RobertKB]

3 hours ago, bshimkat said:

I have a 1951 Plymouth business coupe, and I bought my rear window seal from Steele. It fit perfectly.

Great to know. Thanks for posting. I have just ordered from them.

[JerseyHarold]

3 hours ago, RobertKB said:

Great to know. Thanks for posting. I have just ordered from them.

Does the Steele window gasket come with a groove to accept the stainless trim?

[RobertKB]

I believe all rear windows came with trim. Windshields could be with or without. 

[RobertKB]

Just to update. I received my rear window gasket from Steele along with the windshield gasket and a few other items I needed. Both gaskets fit very well and the rear window gasket was the correct one as indicated by the pictures. I had had the window out for over two years and was very glad to get it back in place. It is the only curved glass in the car and finding another if anything happened to this one would have been difficult. All the trim went in nicely and there are three screws that hold the bottom trim on and they were placed precisely right. It was very important to follow the shop manual instructions exactly. Anyway, I was pleased with Steele's gaskets and can confidently recommend them to others. Pictures show the nice fit. Incidentally the trunk will fit better when I install the latch and trunk handle. Right now it is just resting on the new trunk weatherstrip, also from Steele.

 

Edited October 15, 2016 by RobertKB