C.C. Rider Posted March 12, 2016 Report Posted March 12, 2016 im looking to remove and replace the brakes on my 49 b-1-d. im wanting to know how to remove the drums ( front & rear) and removal and installation of the brakes. any tips and info is greatly appreciated! 1 Quote
Dodgeb4ya Posted March 12, 2016 Report Posted March 12, 2016 A factory Dodge truck shop manual. It even has some pictures. 3 Quote
P15-D24 Posted March 12, 2016 Report Posted March 12, 2016 To double down on Dodgeb4ya comment 1 tons are different animals then the lighter duty trucks and a manual is pretty much required. 1 Quote
C.C. Rider Posted March 16, 2016 Author Report Posted March 16, 2016 will i need some sort of puller for the removal of the drums? Quote
Merle Coggins Posted March 16, 2016 Report Posted March 16, 2016 Not on a 1 ton truck. It should have floating axles and hubs held on with special nuts. Quote
JBNeal Posted March 16, 2016 Report Posted March 16, 2016 (edited) TOOLBOX ARSENAL Additional information on drum removal Edited August 23, 2021 by JBNeal revised picture 2 Quote
C.C. Rider Posted March 16, 2016 Author Report Posted March 16, 2016 that procedure is from the pics are similar to that of wheels hubs on a semi truck and trailer. the i removed the floating axle but the drums still did not come off. im guessing that they somehow are bound up so i guess my next step would be to brake them off. thanks everyone for the feedback. as you can tell my grandfathers truck is showing me how much of a newbie i am to these model trucks Additional information on drum removal Quote
Merle Coggins Posted March 16, 2016 Report Posted March 16, 2016 Did you back off the adjustments on the shoes? They may just be a little tight and won't clear any ridge on the back side of the drum. Quote
P15-D24 Posted March 16, 2016 Report Posted March 16, 2016 And take off the nuts that adjust bearing preload with the socket pictured? Quote
C.C. Rider Posted March 16, 2016 Author Report Posted March 16, 2016 i havent done anything to it as of yet. Quote
Dave72dt Posted March 17, 2016 Report Posted March 17, 2016 Don't break the drums off. Good ones are like hens teeth to find. Until you take those nuts off, the drum will stay where it is.. Nuts first, both of them, then the outer bearing will come. The inner will probably stay with the hub as well as the inner seal. 4 Quote
P15-D24 Posted March 17, 2016 Report Posted March 17, 2016 TO REPEAT, no puller is needed or used. It's like pulling the front drums off. Quote
Don Coatney Posted March 17, 2016 Report Posted March 17, 2016 If you do not have the correct socket I have removed many using large pliers. 1 Quote
MBF Posted March 18, 2016 Report Posted March 18, 2016 And when you're pulling the rear drums, try to cradle it as you remove it so that the inner seal doesn't drag on the threaded portion of the axle tubes. Same when reinstalling it. If you haven't gotten parts yet, all 4 cylinders were available from NAPA. Same p/n's for left front and rears. Same thing for the right side. They're mirror images of each other. I can look up the p/n's if you need them. Mike 3 Quote
FN2 Posted March 19, 2016 Report Posted March 19, 2016 I have been following this thread as I have to fix the brakes on my B2D (Fargo version of it), so the NAPA numbers for the wheel cylinders would be a real help, MBFowler. My local NAPA can't seem to find any numbers but I suspect they don't know how to search for them. Thanks for your help. Quote
Dozerman51 Posted March 19, 2016 Report Posted March 19, 2016 In your search box type in "Pilothouse Truck knowledge". Scroll down to the 1949-58 Truck repair manual heading and punch in that. Further down the list there is a 1953 "B" series Dodge truck repair manual you can look at for help. It's a very nice reference site. Hope this Info helps. J. Giraud '41 WC-12(Salad) '40 Cat D2/3J Quote
FN2 Posted March 20, 2016 Report Posted March 20, 2016 Is that the search box at the top of the page? I tried that but it didn't yield the right results. It is possible I somehow made a mistake. Quote
Dave72dt Posted March 20, 2016 Report Posted March 20, 2016 You'll find it under "resources" in the lighter brown banner at the top of the page, Dpetca website, second banner, lower left, scroll down. Quote
Dozerman51 Posted March 20, 2016 Report Posted March 20, 2016 I have Yahoo as a search engine and in the box I just type in "Pilothouse knowledge". Skip the "Truck" part. It should work. Let us know how you make out. J. Giraud '41 WC-12 '40" Cat D2/3J Quote
FN2 Posted March 21, 2016 Report Posted March 21, 2016 I found it! It's a great site for information I need, thanks very much. Quote
Keith Posted March 26, 2016 Report Posted March 26, 2016 I am doing my brakes as well (48 B1D). Does any one know the spec on drum lining thickness for getting the drums turned? Would NAPA be able to turn them? Quote
RodFru2u Posted March 26, 2016 Report Posted March 26, 2016 Keith, Napa might have the replacement shoes or you can check out C H Topping in Long Beach, They can reline the shoes, Arc the new shoes to the drums and turn the drums if needed. I have heard GREAT things about them and they are local. Rod Quote
Keith Posted March 26, 2016 Report Posted March 26, 2016 Thanks Rod. Always great to get sources for parts/service, especially the local ones. Quote
FN2 Posted March 28, 2016 Report Posted March 28, 2016 I found the chrysler part number 635 537 in the parts list and crossed that to a raybestos WC3595 for the left front and left rear wheel cylinder, which as far as I can tell, crosses to a NAPA number NUP3595, which is a 1 1/4 by 1 3/8 cylinder. Similarily the right front and right rear is a raybestos WC3596 which crosses to NAPA number NUP3596. Does anyone here know if I have got it right? Thanks for your help. Quote
MBF Posted March 28, 2016 Report Posted March 28, 2016 I apologize for the delay in my response. I haven't been checking the forum like I should. The p/n's that I used on my '49 1 ton (cyls are same on left and right sides respectively for front and rear) are: 3595, and 3596. They're mirror images of each other. Mike Quote
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