Tony724 Posted April 13, 2015 Report Posted April 13, 2015 I bought a new Lincoln Mig Welder Pro 140 about two weeks ago from Lowes. I finally got time today to open it up. Figured I would test it out. Its supposed to come with 6 tips. (3) .025 (3) .035 I put it all together, and noticed no tips were in the box. Really?? I thought buying a Lincoln I would be safe. Unreal! I don't know wether to return it to Lowes, for another or call Lincoln, and see if they will just send me some. I wanted to practice today. Just my luck. Quote
BobT-47P15 Posted April 13, 2015 Report Posted April 13, 2015 Since you have it out of the box, etc..........you might start with Lincoln. Sometimes companies are good to send something missing. Then you won't have to repack it to return to the store. If a negative response from maker, then back to Lowes. Just my thoughts. Quote
Tony724 Posted April 13, 2015 Author Report Posted April 13, 2015 Since you have it out of the box, etc..........you might start with Lincoln. Sometimes companies are good to send something missing. Then you won't have to repack it to return to the store. If a negative response from maker, then back to Lowes. Just my thoughts. Thats what I thought too. I was kind of shocked honestly, I read so many good reviews on Lincoln. I will try their customer support number first, maybe they will mail me some. If not, I will return it, and not buy another. I don't feel like driving 45 minutes back home to have another incident. Quote
greg g Posted April 13, 2015 Report Posted April 13, 2015 Or go to Lowe's, have them get you the parts out of an inventory unit and give them the Lincoln customer service number...........that way you can use your tool while Lowe's waits on the tips to put in their unit. Quote
Tony724 Posted April 13, 2015 Author Report Posted April 13, 2015 (edited) Or go to Lowe's, have them get you the parts out of an inventory unit and give them the Lincoln customer service number...........that way you can use your tool while Lowe's waits on the tips to put in their unit. I may try Lincoln tomorrow morning, and if they don't help me out, I guess I will see if Lowes does. Dangit, I really want to mess with this welder today. Never dealt with Lincoln, so I don't know how they treat their customers.. Edited April 13, 2015 by Tony724 Quote
P15-D24 Posted April 13, 2015 Report Posted April 13, 2015 All the above plus just go buy a couple. They are a consumable item and are pretty cheap. I keep spares on hand as noting is worse than having to drop everything in the middle of a job and run to the store for some tips. Also get a tip cleaner and gel to coat the nozzle. Quote
Tony724 Posted April 13, 2015 Author Report Posted April 13, 2015 All the above plus just go buy a couple. They are a consumable item and are pretty cheap. I keep spares on hand as noting is worse than having to drop everything in the middle of a job and run to the store for some tips. Also get a tip cleaner and gel to coat the nozzle. oh okay, I am new to this. I was going to practice today. I didn't know about the gel. Or a nozzle cleaner. Here's the one I bought. http://www.lowes.com/pd_256722-1703-K2480-1_0__?productId=1072945&Ntt=mig+welder&pl=1¤tURL=%3FNtt%3Dmig%2Bwelder&facetInfo= Quote
P15-D24 Posted April 13, 2015 Report Posted April 13, 2015 Really don't want to rain on your parade but I would return that one and get the one with gas. Quality of welds is better with gas and you can also run flux core. Check out this cleaner http://www.weldfabulous.com/ and http://www.newmetalworker.com/reviews/lncnzlgelrvu.html Quote
Tony724 Posted April 13, 2015 Author Report Posted April 13, 2015 Really don't want to rain on your parade but I would return that one and get the one with gas. Quality of welds is better with gas and you can also run flux core. Check out this cleaner http://www.weldfabulous.com/ and http://www.newmetalworker.com/reviews/lncnzlgelrvu.html I will check those links out. That does have the hook ups and gauges for gas. Quote
TodFitch Posted April 13, 2015 Report Posted April 13, 2015 Really don't want to rain on your parade but I would return that one and get the one with gas. Quality of welds is better with gas and you can also run flux core. Check out this cleaner http://www.weldfabulous.com/ and http://www.newmetalworker.com/reviews/lncnzlgelrvu.html Looking at his link the photo shows what looks like a pressure regulator and the specifications say "yes" under "uses argon gas" and "uses argon/carbon dioxide mixed gas". Am I missing something? Quote
Tony724 Posted April 13, 2015 Author Report Posted April 13, 2015 I called Lincoln customer service. Wow, they don't mess around. I will have the tips in 48 hours. I better go get that Gel and Cleaner tool for thje tips. I am new to welding. Quote
Dave72dt Posted April 13, 2015 Report Posted April 13, 2015 along with a wire brush and chipping hammer for removing the flux coating left on the weld. That will need to be cleaned after each weld and before starting the next one which makes it a bear for welding sheet metal. Sheet metal is more of a tack, tack, tack system than a weld bead. Quote
_shel_ny Posted April 13, 2015 Report Posted April 13, 2015 One thing to watch for at Lowe's, and other places for that matter is to look at packaging when making purchases to be sure it has not been opened. Same as you, I am about 45 min from the stores. Lincoln could have left the tips out. Least likely possibility. I'm not sure how small the package with the tips would be, but: Lowe's customer could have made the purchase, then returned item without tips. Lowe's visitor could have done their shopping for tips out of that box. (loaded extras to their purchase, or just took those) Yes, there really are people that will do that. My most recent experience with that was plastic shims for spacing laminate flooring away from the wall. There was supposed to be 2 different size shims in the package. They were supposed to be 2 different colors. The one that I ended up with had all 1 color, 1 size. Not a production line problem. Someone had done a swap out. They wanted all one size, and did not want to buy 2 packs. I was in a hurry and did not check closely when buying it. I wanted to get my job done, and made do. Quote
Tony724 Posted April 13, 2015 Author Report Posted April 13, 2015 along with a wire brush and chipping hammer for removing the flux coating left on the weld. That will need to be cleaned after each weld and before starting the next one which makes it a bear for welding sheet metal. Sheet metal is more of a tack, tack, tack system than a weld bead. yes I am sure. I have watched quite a few welding videos. My buddy has a welder like mine, and he seems to use the flux more than the bottle. He has been welding for years. I have not seen him use flux on body metal though. One thing to watch for at Lowe's, and other places for that matter is to look at packaging when making purchases to be sure it has not been opened. Same as you, I am about 45 min from the stores. Lincoln could have left the tips out. Least likely possibility. I'm not sure how small the package with the tips would be, but: Lowe's customer could have made the purchase, then returned item without tips. Lowe's visitor could have done their shopping for tips out of that box. (loaded extras to their purchase, or just took those) Yes, there really are people that will do that. My most recent experience with that was plastic shims for spacing laminate flooring away from the wall. There was supposed to be 2 different size shims in the package. They were supposed to be 2 different colors. The one that I ended up with had all 1 color, 1 size. Not a production line problem. Someone had done a swap out. They wanted all one size, and did not want to buy 2 packs. I was in a hurry and did not check closely when buying it. I wanted to get my job done, and made do. People do amaze me. I mean the tips are not that expensive, just aggravated me, because I expected to open the box, and start practicing. I noticed the hand held face shield was missing too. But I have a auto darkening hood, so I don' care. So obviously someone did this. The welder and lines look untouched completely, you can tell this unit does not have a mark on it, and the lines were still rolled and tied like Lincoln did it. Also, in the directions it stated the ".035" tip is already installed from factory. It had a .025 one on it. Someone bought it, and did not use it, and returned it and left some stuff out. Quote
Mike Petersen Posted April 13, 2015 Report Posted April 13, 2015 Go back to Lowe's talk to them. If they won't help you buy some while you are there and get welding. Quote
deathbound Posted April 13, 2015 Report Posted April 13, 2015 Just mention you're going to be using this on your Plymouth and it won't get moved to the OT forum. Quote
Ulu Posted April 13, 2015 Report Posted April 13, 2015 My local Lowes has a very liberal exchange policy. No questions, no hassles ever, and I've exchanged several things there. I'd start there. Quote
Tony724 Posted April 14, 2015 Author Report Posted April 14, 2015 (edited) Go back to Lowe's talk to them. If they won't help you buy some while you are there and get welding. Lincoln popped them in the mail, will be here tomorrow probably. I am going to Lowes anyhow, and will grab more, and Gel and tip cleaner. I am new to this still. I waited till I am turning 51 to weld. This should be interesting. Just mention you're going to be using this on your Plymouth and it won't get moved to the OT forum. Oh it will get used on the Plymouth! Thats my reason for buying it. I only need it on the front cross frame, "so far", but I think I may need it for a few other places in the car too. . But I wanted a new toy too...haha I don't understand what the OT forum is? My local Lowes has a very liberal exchange policy. No questions, no hassles ever, and I've exchanged several things there. I'd start there. i have always had good service at Lowes. I honestly cannot complain about them. Edited April 14, 2015 by Tony724 Quote
Tony724 Posted April 14, 2015 Author Report Posted April 14, 2015 Really don't want to rain on your parade but I would return that one and get the one with gas. Quality of welds is better with gas and you can also run flux core. Check out this cleaner http://www.weldfabulous.com/ and http://www.newmetalworker.com/reviews/lncnzlgelrvu.html I found these at Lowes, going there tomorrow. Same stuff basically? http://www.lowes.com/pd_366996-1703-KH507_0__ http://www.lowes.com/ProductDisplay?partNumber=445716-48247-FPW1423-0016&langId=-1&storeId=10151&productId=4738506&catalogId=10051&cmRelshp=req&rel=nofollow&cId=PDIO1 Quote
deathbound Posted April 14, 2015 Report Posted April 14, 2015 (edited) Lincoln popped them in the mail, will be here tomorrow probably. I am going to Lowes anyhow, and will grab more, and Gel and tip cleaner. I am new to this still. I waited till I am turning 51 to weld. This should be interesting. Oh it will get used on the Plymouth! Thats my reason for buying it. I only need it on the front cross frame, "so far", but I think I may need it for a few other places in the car too. . But I wanted a new toy too...haha I don't understand what the OT forum is? It sucks they weren't in the box to begin with, but you would've ended up buying some sooner or later & it's good Lincoln is sending some your way, just make sure you double check the size for the wire you're using. Lincoln Electric is a very reputable company.....their machines are "Miller Killer's". It's never too late to learn to weld, while your "practicing", look into a community college welding course....or 5. You'll find things to weld that didn't need it. The Gel is for the nozzle when MIG welding, which you would have to buy an adapter set-up for, I believe yours is set-up for flux core only, out of the box. A good hood with auto-lens is one of the best investments for any welder, the hand held face shield you don't need anyway, so you're not missing anything there. Good luck & be patient.....you'll put down a roll of dimes in no time. If you want to see something welding related and you have Instagram, search user "weldporn"....amazing stuff. As for the OT forum comment, just messing around. The OT forum is "generally" (used loosely) for non Plymouth, Dodge, etc car specific threads....or something like that.....might be explained under the Off Topic forum header. Just copied & pasted from the Off Topic section: Use this forum to post threads of interest not mopar car or truck specific. Religious or political threads are not allowed and will be deleted. Edited April 14, 2015 by deathbound Quote
Tony724 Posted April 14, 2015 Author Report Posted April 14, 2015 (edited) It sucks they weren't in the box to begin with, but you would've ended up buying some sooner or later & it's good Lincoln is sending some your way, just make sure you double check the size for the wire you're using. Lincoln Electric is a very reputable company.....their machines are "Miller Killer's". It's never too late to learn to weld, while your "practicing", look into a community college welding course....or 5. You'll find things to weld that didn't need it. The Gel is for the nozzle when MIG welding, which you would have to buy an adapter set-up for, I believe yours is set-up for flux core only, out of the box. A good hood with auto-lens is one of the best investments for any welder, the hand held face shield you don't need anyway, so you're not missing anything there. Good luck & be patient.....you'll put down a roll of dimes in no time. If you want to see something welding related and you have Instagram, search user "weldporn"....amazing stuff. As for the OT forum comment, just messing around. The OT forum is "generally" (used loosely) for non Plymouth, Dodge, etc car specific threads....or something like that.....might be explained under the Off Topic forum header. Just copied & pasted from the Off Topic section: Use this forum to post threads of interest not mopar car or truck specific. Religious or political threads are not allowed and will be deleted. Mine does have the gauges and set up, I don't have a bottle yet. I was going to run .035 through it first, just to mess around with some metal I have up the garage. Should the gel be used for flux core too? Or just Mig? I have instagram on my phone, to keep an eye on my kids....haha I will check for weldporn right now! Thank you! This cleaning tip kit okay? http://www.lowes.com/ProductDisplay?partNumber=445716-48247-FPW1423-0016&langId=-1&storeId=10151&productId=4738506&catalogId=10051&cmRelshp=req&rel=nofollow&cId=PDIO1 . Edited April 14, 2015 by Tony724 Quote
Dave72dt Posted April 14, 2015 Report Posted April 14, 2015 You'll want to make sure the drive wheel for the wire is also set for the size wire you're running. Quote
Tony724 Posted April 14, 2015 Author Report Posted April 14, 2015 You'll want to make sure the drive wheel for the wire is also set for the size wire you're running. Yes, thank you. I did flip it over to .035. t has two options on my wheel. Quote
deathbound Posted April 14, 2015 Report Posted April 14, 2015 Mine does have the gauges and set up, I don't have a bottle yet. I was going to run .035 through it first, just to mess around with some metal I have up the garage. Should the gel be used for flux core too? Or just Mig? I have instagram on my phone, to keep an eye on my kids....haha I will check for weldporn right now! Thank you! This cleaning tip kit okay? http://www.lowes.com/ProductDisplay?partNumber=445716-48247-FPW1423-0016&langId=-1&storeId=10151&productId=4738506&catalogId=10051&cmRelshp=req&rel=nofollow&cId=PDIO1 . Ok, I assumed (I KNOW!!!) that it was flux core only, that's good it came with the conversion kit. Gel is for MIG only. I think there are a couple different gas mixes, check with your supplier & tell them what you're welding.....haven't MIG welded in 30+ years. Flux core only now, all structural with .072 wire. When I clink on the link, it is for a watch, not really my style either. Quote
Tony724 Posted April 14, 2015 Author Report Posted April 14, 2015 (edited) Ok, I assumed (I KNOW!!!) that it was flux core only, that's good it came with the conversion kit. Gel is for MIG only. I think there are a couple different gas mixes, check with your supplier & tell them what you're welding.....haven't MIG welded in 30+ years. Flux core only now, all structural with .072 wire. When I clink on the link, it is for a watch, not really my style either. Damn, I was going to buy you that watch....LOL I don't know how that happened. ugh! Okay, I wasn't sure if I should use the gel for Flux core wire. At least I know now. I have .025 for the mig on hand. And .035 for the flux on hand. I have a welding supply store not too far. I will get some advice from him on the mix I need in the bottle. He has been there forever. Well, I am turning 51 soon, and when I started driving he was there. So thats pretty long! Edited April 14, 2015 by Tony724 Quote
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