Valve Spring compression tool

[Kai-by-Vecona]

Hi Everybody,

 

one of the valve springs of my 230 is broken so I have to install a new one. Now I tried to get a tool here in Germany to compress the valve spring to unistall the valves but I didn't get one that fits or works well. The engine and manifolds are still intsalled and I don't want to put them off.

What kind of tool do you use and where did you get it from?

 

Thanks in advance

 

 

Kai

 

[_shel_ny]

This is the one I have.

 

Should be able to google the #.

 

Many auto parts stores in the US carry them. Probably not as common for you.

 

May be difficult to do in the vehicle (EDIT: with head and manifold on) depending upon what valve you are working with.

 

When you do it, stuff a rag in the return oil holes so the keepers do not end up in there.

 

 

Sometimes ones along that line can be found on ebay

 

Edit: KD 700

Edited February 9, 2014 by shel_ny

[Plymouthy Adams]

goodly number of them on e-bay for a fair price...follow this link...

 

    http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313&_nkw=vintage+valve+spring+compressor&_sacat=0&_from=R40

[Don Coatney]

Pictured is the tool I use. I have had this tool for over 50 years. You might try a motorcycle or lawn mower shop for this tool as many such engines use this tool.

 

 

[TodFitch]

Tool I have is same as shel_ny posted. But you will need to remove the manifolds to do the job. It has been a long time, but I think you may have to remove the valve to remove the spring which means pulling the head too.

[Dodgeb4ya]

I posted on here about being able to remove the springs with the engine assembled a year or two ago. I did it on a fully assembled core 230 engine. You can do it- Use the valve spring tool Don shows, the lifter must be all the way down, then screw down the adjuster screw, wedge out the spring. Re-install spring the tight end of the coil to the block. Access is some what tight depending which valve but can be done with out pulling the manifolds or valve.

Bob

Edited February 9, 2014 by Dodgeb4ya

[Kai-by-Vecona]

Thanks to everybody, this helps a lot. I didn't find one of theses tools at a payable price here so I looked at ebay US and it's cheaper to buy there and ship to Germany.

Anyway... the broken spring is at intake five so I think it will be enough place for the tool.

 

I'll try the way Dodgeb4ya showed me and hope it will work

 

Kai

[_shel_ny]

That may work out for you. Sometimes it is difficult to get the keepers out of the retainer as everything tends to ride on up with the valve and spring, but as your spring is broken that should make it easier to disassemble.

[Dodgeb4ya]

A quick sharp rap on the retainer will release the grip on the two keepers.

[martybose]

I just used a standard C-shaped valve compressor with the head and manifolds removed.  I tried a setup like Don's, but found that since it didn't hold the valve down that sometimes I would just lift the valve up with it.  As always, YMMV.

 

Marty

[40desoto]

On 2/9/2014 at 11:12 AM, Dodgeb4ya said:

I posted on here about being able to remove the springs with the engine assembled a year or two ago. I did it on a fully assembled core 230 engine. You can do it- Use the valve spring tool Don shows, the lifter must be all the way down, then screw down the adjuster screw, wedge out the spring. Re-install spring the tight end of the coil to the block. Access is some what tight depending which valve but can be done with out pulling the manifolds or valve.

Bob

I've been looking for this.  The shop manual for my car doesn't have these details.  How did you push the valve down to remove the retaining cup? I removed one with whacking the top of the valve but I'm concerned about bending them. Is there another method?

[keithb7]

Without a valve spring compressor tool, a pry bar can be used to remove spring retainers.. For one spring only it's not too bad, but for 12 it'll drive you nuts. I cut up some small blocks of wood to use as leverage  I'll work for removal, but reassembly is at least 99% impossible. 

I am interested in hearing a little more details on some of the points brought up here:

Related to flat head engines:

How could you remove or install a spring without removing the valve?

Does it matter which end of the spring goes to toward top?

Thx  

 

 

[40desoto]

18 hours ago, keithb7 said:

Without a valve spring compressor tool, a pry bar can be used to remove spring retainers.. For one spring only it's not too bad, but for 12 it'll drive you nuts. I cut up some small blocks of wood to use as leverage  I'll work for removal, but reassembly is at least 99% impossible. 

I am interested in hearing a little more details on some of the points brought up here:

Related to flat head engines:

How could you remove or install a spring without removing the valve?

Does it matter which end of the spring goes to toward top?

Thx  

 

 

Keith, after spending somemtime this weekend removing my valves (Thanks to your other thread..  lol) I would think it might be possible to remove the spring without removing the valve but it would be much. much more work than simply removing the head.

According to my shop manual the side of the spring that has the tightest coil goes to the top.