Frank Elder Posted August 14, 2013 Report Posted August 14, 2013 I seriously doubt it is the last one in the country..... 1 Quote
JIPJOBXX Posted August 14, 2013 Author Report Posted August 14, 2013 I found my old hood ornament and here is a photo of it! Only the blackouts came with a non chromed ornament and as you can see where the paint is chipped that it is pot metal or whatever under the paint! I do not know if I want to spend 45 dollars for the build cad from Chrysler.. Kind of pricey but if anyone wants to donate a few bucks than there more than welcome Jon Quote
B-Watson Posted August 15, 2013 Report Posted August 15, 2013 Serial Number 30643360 Found in range 30577001 to 30644377 Serial 66360 of 67377 Year 1942 Make Dodge Model Code D22 Plant Detroit Engine 6 cylinder 230.2 cu.in. L-head Wheelbase 119 1/2 inches Should only have been 1017 built after that from the Detroit plant. I'd have to go back and see if they built D22 models at other plants too. 11,620 Dodge cars were built in the U.S. in calendar year 1942. Not sure when Dodge ended production, but it was either at the end January or the first couple of days in February. This car, though, was built the last or second last day of production. Only one plant in the U.S. built Dodges in 1942 - Hamtramck. Serial number sequences are assembly plant specific for Chrysler Corporation vehicles. Dodges were also built at Windsor, Ontario, but Windsor assembly plant serial numbers started with "9". 1 Quote
JIPJOBXX Posted August 15, 2013 Author Report Posted August 15, 2013 Thanks as this is most interesting! Like I stated on here the frount trime peices are shorter than the early 42's and I kind of thought maybe that was because they were running out of material. I got my car up and running and stopping also! I have said it before not only is my car rare but I have a real love hate positiion with old cowdodge!!! Thanks again and I will get the build card. Jon Quote
TodFitch Posted August 15, 2013 Report Posted August 15, 2013 11,620 Dodge cars were built in the U.S. in calendar year 1942. Not sure when Dodge ended production, but it was either at the end January or the first couple of days in February. This car, though, was built the last or second last day of production. Only one plant in the U.S. built Dodges in 1942 - Hamtramck. Serial number sequences are assembly plant specific for Chrysler Corporation vehicles. Dodges were also built at Windsor, Ontario, but Windsor assembly plant serial numbers started with "9". Looks like there were only 1144 D22 cars built in Windsor (serial numbers 9374396 through 9375540). Assuming they started building US D22 cars around September 1st for introduction in October and stopped making them at the end of January, there would be about 22 weeks of production. Further assuming a uniform production rate that would be about 3062 cars/wk. So I think I can agree that this car would have been built in the last third or so of the last week of production. It would be interesting to see what date the build card shows and get some official information about the last day of production. But basically, your numbers and statement that the car was built on the last day or two of production look reasonable to me. Quote
JIPJOBXX Posted August 15, 2013 Author Report Posted August 15, 2013 Thanks I'm going to send oft for this information as I cannot seem to get through there site on the internet. It will be interesting as I kind of wonder how it got out to Washington state and if its truly was one of the last Dodges built befor the plant went into full time war production. Jon Quote
JIPJOBXX Posted August 16, 2013 Author Report Posted August 16, 2013 Well read the fine print and no codes numbers for car built befor 1942 and so the final price for this service is 25 dollars. This should be very intersting and another attraction for my old Cowdodge. Quote
TodFitch Posted August 16, 2013 Report Posted August 16, 2013 Well read the fine print and no codes numbers for car built befor 1942 and so the final price for this service is 25 dollars. This should be very intersting and another attraction for my old Cowdodge. Hmmm. I've been able to find the translation for paint and trim codes starting in '34 through at least '39. I'll look around and see if I can't find them for '42. Quote
B-Watson Posted August 17, 2013 Report Posted August 17, 2013 According to Chrysler of Canada's 1942 parts book, production of blackout models began at serial number 30,644,377 at Hamtramck (Detroit) and 9,375,216 at Windsor. Which means 8,104 were built in the U.S. (DeLuxe and Custom) and 325 in Canada (Custom only). Pre-blackout totals were 59,273 in the U.S. and 820 in Canada. One point about Fluid Drive. It was NOT a transmission. It was a fluid coupling located between the engine and the clutch and had the clutch pressure plate and starter ring gear. Fluid Drive had no gears and prior to the introduction of Powerflite was listed under Clutch in parts books and service manuals. Attached is a listing of colours and their codes as offered on U.S.-built D22 Dodges. Chrysler of Canada offered the following colours on all its Canadian-built cars (CIL Duco paint codes) - 1084 - Black ** : 246-8708 1209 - Regimental Blue ** : 246-37342 (??) 1210 - Metallic Aviator Blue No. 2 ** : 202-80011 (Canada-only colour) 1656 - Ludington Green : 246-53407 (1939 Cadillac and 1940-42 U.S.-built Buick) 1657 - English Green : 246-53406 (1939 Cadillac and 1940-42 U.S.-built Buick) 1918 - River Mist Grey : 246-34411 (1941-42 US-built Oldsmobile) 1919 - Catalina Grey : 246-53631 (1940 US-built Oldsmobile and Buick) 2830 - Metallic Regal Red (Maroon) ** : 202-33039 (1940-42 US-built Pontiac, Oldsmobile and Buick) ** - Carried over from 1941 Cars Chrysler of Canada imported from Detroit were available in the colours offered in the U.S. All U.S.-built cars and trucks used enamel paints in 1942 but in Canada lacquer was used for the last time on cars. Quote
Plymouthy Adams Posted August 18, 2013 Report Posted August 18, 2013 thanks Bill that sure clears up the black out issue...guess one can claim last day or next to last day of production prior to black out models starting.. Quote
Frank Elder Posted August 18, 2013 Report Posted August 18, 2013 You better start polishing that chrome........ Quote
JIPJOBXX Posted August 18, 2013 Author Report Posted August 18, 2013 (edited) Hay anyone here want to step up to the plate and make a bet that my car is not a blackout? The proceeds will go to this site! I'm sure the moderators could use a few extra coins to help this site along. If I'm proven wrong then I will pay the site and if you're proven wrong than you pay the site . Its a win-win situation for this board And it will be posted so no reneged will take place. Sounds good to me!!!! Edited August 18, 2013 by JIPJOBXX Quote
B-Watson Posted August 19, 2013 Report Posted August 19, 2013 According to Chrysler of Canada's 1942 parts book, production of blackout models began at serial number 30,644,377 at Hamtramck (Detroit) and 9,375,216 at Windsor. Nobody, not even me, noticed that the beginning serial number for the US blackout Dodges was actually the LAST 1942 Dodge D22 built in the US. The first US blackout Dodge D22 was serial number 30,636,274. So, 30,643,360 was built as a blackout model - the 7,087th blackout Dodge D22 built, to be precise. Quote
Don Coatney Posted August 19, 2013 Report Posted August 19, 2013 Thank you B-Watson. Looks like JIPJACKXX was right his car was built as a blackout, Crow is bad even after you get past the first bite. Bright side is we can still kick the automatic. Quote
Plymouthy Adams Posted August 19, 2013 Report Posted August 19, 2013 Don, save me a leg...! I still say the very picture showing the day he dragged it home shows way to much bright work on it...and besides kicking the automatic..it is not the sole survivor either. Quote
jcmiller Posted August 19, 2013 Report Posted August 19, 2013 Nobody, not even me, noticed that the beginning serial number for the US blackout Dodges was actually the LAST 1942 Dodge D22 built in the US. The first US blackout Dodge D22 was serial number 30,636,274. So, 30,643,360 was built as a blackout model - the 7,087th blackout Dodge D22 built, to be precise. Are you saying that 8,104 Dodge blackouts were built in the US and the last one was 30,644,377? Where does the 8,104 total come from? Do you have similar information for Plymouth? Thx. Quote
JIPJOBXX Posted August 19, 2013 Author Report Posted August 19, 2013 You better read up on Blackout! The goverment said that you could use up whatever stock of trim pieces you had but it was mandated that no extra pieces were to be manufactured with stainless steel or chrome plated materials after the cut off date for the manufacture of Blackouts. I know this to be true because I stated the the rear door handles were chrome plated and the front two were just plain metal. As far as the automatic I just stated that as it easier for someone without expertise to think of this transmission being an automatic not in the true sense but one that you could put in high gear and take off without using the shifting mix izium to shift the car from first to second to third! Of course I know its not an automatic but it work the same but only with no moving parts but the turban input shaft and output shaft. Gezz lowize picky=picky. Quote
JIPJOBXX Posted August 19, 2013 Author Report Posted August 19, 2013 Well I made a mistake about the label plate its numbers are 30643366 not 3043360 ( Boy so close to the last one produced only 10 away) It will be interesting to see who bought his car and maybe it might just be the guy would sold it to Mr. Ringstaff. I really love my old car and someday I will have it completely restored to it original factory specs. I have an estate in my family that someday will probably bring in a sizable amount of cash and that should get my old car completely done. I do not have an urge to buy more cars as a couple of my friends do but just to be satisfied with my old cowdodge. I was going through some of my old receipts last night and way back in ancient history I had the engine completely rebuilt to the cost of almost 2,000 dollars so that department is done. It has a new fluid drive unit and now completely new brakes. It could use some professional body work done on it and then a new paint job. The color at the present time is not true to the color it should be but it was suppose to be but after they completed painting the car I noticed it was not as light as a gray it was suppose to be. I bought the paint separately from a car paint shop and they tried to match up the original but it didn't. I wish it did but it doesn't. While going through that old paper work I noticed that my paint job cost a little bit over 550 dollars not bad and they did a pretty good job. I was going to have the old car reupholstered at a trade school over in Tacoma but they are not teaching car upholstery anymore so that went out the window. That ust to be dirt cheap and they really did a nice job. You could get bought seats done for under 500 dollars and they did great work (Instructors always at the side of the student). Anyway in a few weeks we shall see what date this old time machine was built and maybe it might be the same guy who originally bought it sold it to my friend father. Oh one more project in the future and that is to put a pressure plate and clutch in and then the mechanical issues should be complete. Quote
JIPJOBXX Posted August 19, 2013 Author Report Posted August 19, 2013 The picture above is of a prestine old 42 Dodge dash and well my old car was a well used farm rig and it kind of shows it age Quote
JIPJOBXX Posted August 19, 2013 Author Report Posted August 19, 2013 Notice that the most of the crome on the dash is painted? Another sign of a blackout Quote
B-Watson Posted August 20, 2013 Report Posted August 20, 2013 (edited) Are you saying that 8,104 Dodge blackouts were built in the US and the last one was 30,644,377? Where does the 8,104 total come from? Do you have similar information for Plymouth? Thx. The first blackiout Dodge was 30,636,274 The last blackout Dodge was 30,644,377 30,636,274 to 30,644,377 is 8,104. Remember, serial number sequences are INCLUSIVE. The first serial number quoted is just that, the first car. The last serial number is the last car. Cars numbered 4, 5, 6, and 7 = 4 cars. For blackout trim pieces, the government mandate was that they had to be painted. Thus, if a company had nice, shiny chrome or stainless trim waiting to be used, the company could use the shiny stuff, but had to paint the pieces before installation. This also gave a level playing field for all manufacturers in the event some company stockpiled shiny trim. Edited August 20, 2013 by B-Watson Quote
Young Ed Posted August 20, 2013 Report Posted August 20, 2013 For blackout trim pieces, the government mandate was that they had to be painted. Thus, if a company had nice, shiny chrome or stainless trim waiting to be used, the company could use the shiny stuff, but had to paint the pieces before installation. This also gave a level playing field for all manufacturers in the event some company stockpiled shiny trim. Thats why Jons car has a mix of stainless and not in the pictures. Looks like some of the paint was falling off the trim. The chrome bumper surprised me though. Quote
jcmiller Posted August 20, 2013 Report Posted August 20, 2013 Thanks B-Watson. If you have the Plymouth figures, please post those too. Quote
JIPJOBXX Posted August 21, 2013 Author Report Posted August 21, 2013 The chrome bumpers were already stock piled and so they just went ahead and used them.. By the way my brakes are working just fine now!!!!!!!!!! Quote
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