Temp Gauge - measurements?

[Drdialtone]

Typically my P15 runs at 160 on the gauge. A couple of questions:

* what are the estimated temperatures between 160 and 212?

* Is 212 "over heat?"

[RobertKB]

I would say 180F and 200F. At sea level, which you are, 212F is overheat as these are non pressurized systems.

[Niel Hoback]

I take those marks to be 180 and 200. If you are really curious you could take the bulb out and heat water to 180 check it with a known good thermometer and again at 200. 212 is overheat only if you lose water.

This is only if you have nothing else to do.

[Drdialtone]

Thanks Gents - gives an point of reference. I'll avoid the physical temp check until I have nothing else to do!

[TodFitch]

I would say 180F and 200F. At sea level, which you are, 212F is overheat as these are non pressurized systems.

Agreed that 212F is overheat for a non-pressurized system at sea level running pure water. At altitude it will be lower.

But if you are running with anti-freeze it will be higher. An unpressurized 50/50 mix of ethylene-glycol and water will boil at 222F (if I've found the correct references).

[Drdialtone]

Got it. I have a 50/50 mix now.

[Robert Horne]

I did a test on my 38 to see if my temp gauge was accurate. I let my engine run in the parking lot on a very hot day with no cap on the radiator.

I placed 2 cooking thermometers in the radiator. The engine ran at about 190 to 195 degree. Not bad for a 95 degree day. The cooking thermometers were very close to the inside temps.

[Drdialtone]

Now that is an interesting approach!!

[randroid]

Gents,

Just to stir the pot a little...

An old adage states that a man with one clock knows exactly what time it is while a man with two clocks never knows.

Let's see where this goes.

-Randy

[T120]

...Does the man with two clocks have a radio?

[Niel Hoback]

There are 13 clocks in my room alone. Thus, I know less than most others. Your theory works!

[Don Coatney]

Rolex and Timex (my watch dogs) always let me know exactly when it is time to eat.

[T120]

An old adage states that a man with one clock knows exactly what time it is while a man with two clocks never knows.

-Randy

..On another note,"Does anyone really know what time it is?...."

[Merle Coggins]

Funny that you mention 2 clocks. There's a restaurant chain here in SE Wisconsin (George Webb) that always has 2 clocks hanging side by side in each restaurant. There are several rumors at to why. One being that in the early days they weren't allowed to be open 24 hours so George hung 2 clocks and set them a couple of minutes apart. Then he could close according to one clock and reopen with the other one and only be open for 23 hours and 59 minutes. But I recently read the "official" story.

Back in the early days the original restaurant was on the corner of 2 busy streets downtown Milwaukee. There was a lot of truck traffic that would rattle the building as they went by. Back then it was common for businesses to lease clocks from Western Union. However, due to the trucks rattling the building the clocks had a tendency to fall off the wall and Western Union would have to replace them. Eventually they got tired of replacing the clocks and hung a couple dozen clocks in the restaurant. All of them fell except for 2. Geroge kept those 2 clocks and the tradition began.

And then again, here's another similar version. http://www.onmilwaukee.com/market/articles/askomcwebb.html

I guess nobody really knows why.

Merle

[Don Coatney]

..On another note,"Does anyone really know what time it is?...."

If anyone really cares Chicago time is 25 or 6 to 4:cool:

[Don Coatney]

Funny that you mention 2 clocks. There's a restaurant chain here in SE Wisconsin (George Webb) that always has 2 clocks hanging side by side in each restaurant. There are several rumors at to why. One being that in the early days they weren't allowed to be open 24 hours so George hung 2 clocks and set them a couple of minutes apart. Then he could close according to one clock and reopen with the other one and only be open for 23 hours and 59 minutes. But I recently read the "official" story.

Back in the early days the original restaurant was on the corner of 2 busy streets downtown Milwaukee. There was a lot of truck traffic that would rattle the building as they went by. Back then it was common for businesses to lease clocks from Western Union. However, due to the trucks rattling the building the clocks had a tendency to fall off the wall and Western Union would have to replace them. Eventually they got tired of replacing the clocks and hung a couple dozen clocks in the restaurant. All of them fell except for 2. Geroge kept those 2 clocks and the tradition began.

And then again, here's another similar version. http://www.onmilwaukee.com/market/articles/askomcwebb.html

I guess nobody really knows why.

Merle

Not to do about clocks but your story remined me of the origin of the name Hoosier for my birth state of Indiana.

Quite as possible is a facetious explanation offered by "The Hoosier Poet," James Whitcomb Riley. He claimed that Hoosier originated in the pugnacious habits of our early settlers. They were enthusiastic and vicious fighters who gouged, scratched and bit off noses and ears. This was so common an occurrence that a settler coming into a tavern the morning after a fight and seeing an ear on the floor would touch it with his toe and casually ask, "Whose ear?"

[BeBop138]

..On another note,"Does anyone really know what time it is?...."

It`s HOWDY DOODY time!!

[Young Ed]

Merle while you're at it look up why the bridges are crooked between the 2 halves of Milwaukee.

[Niel Hoback]

They used to be straight, but part of the city moved? There are enough breweries in Milwaukee to explain anything being crooked, including the viewer.

[Merle Coggins]

Merle while you're at it look up why the bridges are crooked between the 2 halves of Milwaukee.

I don't have to look it up. I know that little piece of history. Here's how I remember it anyway;

It was your namesake, Mr Juneau's fault. Juneau and Killbourn, two of Milwaukee's founding fathers, were in a constant feud. They hated each other so much that Juneau purposly missaligned his streets with Kilbourn's so that it would be difficult to build a bridge across the river that could allow Kilbourntown people into his town. Now they both have streets named after them, which both cross the river a few blocks apart.

[Young Ed]

Close. According to Wikipedia it was Kilbourn who was the troublemaker. The feud ended with the bridge war after which the towns were combined.

"Byron Kilbourn was Juneau's equivalent on the west side of the Milwaukee River. In competition with Juneau, he established Kilbourntown west of the Milwaukee River, and made sure the streets running toward the river did not join with those on the east side. This accounts for the large number of angled bridges that still exist in Milwaukee today. Further, Kilbourn distributed maps of the area which only showed Kilbourntown, implying Juneautown did not exist or that the east side of the river was uninhabited and thus undesirable."

[Merle Coggins]

Ok, so I had it backwards. It was Kilbourn's fault. Sorry Ed.

From Wikipedia;

Milwaukee has three "founding fathers:" Solomon Juneau, Byron Kilbourn, and George H. Walker. Solomon Juneau, the first of the three to come to the area, arrived in 1818. The French Canadian Juneau married Jacques Vieau's daughter in 1820, and Vieau eventually sold the trading post to his son-in-law and daughter, the "founding mother of Milwaukee." The Juneaus moved the post in 1825 to the eastern bank of the Milwaukee River (between the river and Lake Michigan), where they founded the town called Juneau's Side, or Juneautown. This town soon attracted settlers from the Eastern United States and Europe.

Soon after, Byron Kilbourn settled on the west side of the Milwaukee River. In competition with Juneau, Kilbourn established Kilbourntown there, making sure that the streets running toward the river did not match up with those on the east side. This accounts for the large number of angled bridges that still exist in Milwaukee today. Further, Kilbourn distributed maps of the area that showed only Kilbourntown, implying that Juneautown did not exist or that the east side of the river was uninhabited and thus undesirable.

The third prominent builder, George H. Walker, claimed land to the south of the Milwaukee River, where he built a log house in 1834. This area grew and became known as Walker's Point.

The Seal of Milwaukee depicts historic city lifeThe proximity of the towns sparked tensions in 1845 after the completion of a bridge built between Kilbourntown and Juneautown. Kilbourn and his supporters viewed the bridge as a threat to their community and ultimately led to Kilbourn destroying part of the bridge. Over the next few weeks, skirmishes broke out between the inhabitants of the two towns; while no one was killed, several people were seriously injured. After this event, known as the Milwaukee Bridge War, the two towns made greater attempts at cooperation.

By the 1840s, the three towns had grown to such an extent that on January 31, 1846 they combined to incorporate as the City of Milwaukee and elected Solomon Juneau as the city's first mayor. A great number of German immigrants had helped increase the city's population during the 1840s and continued to migrate to the area during the following decades.

Milwaukee became known as the "Deutsches Athen" (German Athens), and into the 20th century, there were more German speakers and German-language newspapers than there were English speakers and English-language newspapers in the city.[citation needed] To this day, the Milwaukee phone book includes more than 40 pages of Schmitts or Schmidts, far more than the pages of Smiths.

In the mid-19th century Milwaukee earned the nickname "Cream City," which refers to the large number of cream colored bricks that came out of the Menomonee River Valley and were used in construction. At its peak, Milwaukee produced 15 million bricks a year, with a third going out of the state.

[Young Ed]

Haha apparently we were both typing at once! When I was really little my parents took us to see the statue and Solomon Juneau's house. One of these summers Carmon and I need to go and see it as adults.

[Merle Coggins]

Is he an ancestor, or just has the same last name?

Merle

[Don Coatney]

One of these summers Carmon and I need to go and see it as adults.

Does that mean you and Carmon will be an adult some day:confused:

I dont think I will live long enough to know Old Ed:mad: