Rodney Bullock Posted March 22, 2011 Report Posted March 22, 2011 I went to Jiffy lube yesterday and had them lube the car. The rear and trans case. My question is what kind of oil should I be using in the trans case(3 speed manual) They put something in that was kind of yellow. what should ai be using? It was not heavy, when I rubbed it between my fingers it was not thick. They filled it and let it run off until it was slightly dripping is that right should it be at the fill hole level? Quote
Joe Flanagan Posted March 22, 2011 Report Posted March 22, 2011 The manual says 95 weight gear oil, though I've been told 90 is OK. I've always understood that up to the bottom of the filler hole is where it's supposed to be. Quote
Don Coatney Posted March 22, 2011 Report Posted March 22, 2011 GO90 or GO85 should both work OK. The oil should smell like fish. Quote
Joe Flanagan Posted March 22, 2011 Report Posted March 22, 2011 My mistake. Manual says 90. I was told 85 was OK. Actually, it should smell like a fish that was caught in the Gulf of Mexico. Quote
JIPJOBXX Posted March 22, 2011 Report Posted March 22, 2011 Joe I had Walmart do a lube on my Dodge and of course I had to give a lube chart to show them where all the fittings were. It only cost at the time 20 dollars plus I supplied a new filter. They didn't make any money on my car compared to the two or three lube points in a new car. Quote
Joe Flanagan Posted March 22, 2011 Report Posted March 22, 2011 I heard it's fun to go in there and watch them look for all the zirc fittings. Quote
greg g Posted March 22, 2011 Report Posted March 22, 2011 I have noticed that the specs for gear lube along with most modern stuff has changed. The old gear oil was pretty thick like honey or STP. the new stuff eventhoughthe viscosity rating is close to the same numbers, seems as Rodney noted much thinner. Also most new ones say they are rated for hypoid gears. A little research show that that rating is achieved by the addition of lots of additives, and some are not healty for our transmission as they do not like brass or bronze parts. Since our transmissions have quite a lot of brass and bronze in the synchos, a full dose of modern hypoid gear oil may not be what is needed. My trans was a bit low last year, and I could only find two sources, lubriplate non hypoid gear oil in a 5 gallon bucket, and the other was from Tractor supply for tractor transmissions. Its the same with my old MC, it says to use 10-30 motor oil in the crank/shared trans case. Usually not a problem as its pretty universally available. But it is full to the brim with anti friction modifiers, which is great for fuel milage in a car, not so good for the wet plate clutches in a MC trans. So I have a a half case of Motorcycle oil formulated without the friction modifiers. And like most things these days, whe they remove something like lead or fat or salt from a product, it seems to cost alot more that the product with the unwanted stuff in it. Probably not a big issue for just topping up a trans, but might be something to think more about when starting to fill an empty one or one you just rebuilt. Quote
BobT-47P15 Posted March 23, 2011 Report Posted March 23, 2011 I took the Plymouth in to a local quick lube a couple years ago, and the fellow found most or all the zirks. I can't remember, but seems like there are about 26 of them..... Quote
Powerhouse Posted March 23, 2011 Report Posted March 23, 2011 Reminds me of the time a Jiffy lube worker turned my 57 Bel-Air oil bath air cleaner upside down and spilled oil all over the place. The poor guy had a very shocked, confused and "Am I in trouble, did the owner see me" look on his face. He just looked at me and said "That's not supposed to be like that" He was older than I was at the time...and I had to tell him what it was. Oh brother. Quote
Alshere59 Posted March 23, 2011 Report Posted March 23, 2011 You can take them a cheat sheet for all the zerks. I think its for a P-17 but should be close. 21 fittings if I counted right. http://www.dndrodshop.com/P17.pdf Quote
TodFitch Posted March 23, 2011 Report Posted March 23, 2011 I heard it's fun to go in there and watch them look for all the zirc fittings. Especially if they should be looking for zerk fittings (actually Alemite hydraulic fittings). I'm not sure what a "zirc fitting" would look like. http://www.ply33.com/Backmatter/LubricationFittings I used to take my modern cars to the quickie oil change places. That lasted until one of them stripped the threads for the drain plug on the oil pan. I'm afraid to take my old car to the quickie oil change places as getting a replacement pan is a heck of a lot harder than for my old Jeep. And I bet they'd blow out the rear axle seals when lubricating the rear axle bearings. Quote
TodFitch Posted March 23, 2011 Report Posted March 23, 2011 He was older than I was at the time... He might still be older than you now. Quote
Rodney Bullock Posted March 24, 2011 Author Report Posted March 24, 2011 I have trained my jiffy lube guy very well. I have taught him how to fill and clean zerk fittings. They are better at lube jobs on old cars then the new ones. We have a great time when I come in. I try to bring my old beaters in when they are not busy. I bring my own filter and I try to have some zddp with me when I come in as well. They have helped me out of alot of jams. You see with that pit they have I was able to tighten stuff upwhile they do their thing. I have the tool in my pocket:) I am such a stinker. I recently bought this tool call the dog bone it has all the sizes on one rotating head. I was able to fixall kinds of stuff for 8 dollars. Price of the tip. This way I make sure I have oil in my rear, manual trans and top off the motor. Quote
Joe Flanagan Posted March 24, 2011 Report Posted March 24, 2011 Especially if they should be looking for zerk fittings (actually Alemite hydraulic fittings). I'm not sure what a "zirc fitting" would look like. A little too much Chardonnay with your Brie, perhaps? Quote
TodFitch Posted March 24, 2011 Report Posted March 24, 2011 A little too much Chardonnay with your Brie, perhaps? Maybe. Quote
P-12 Tommy Posted March 24, 2011 Report Posted March 24, 2011 Check this out....http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,747201,00.html Tom Quote
Al B. Bach Posted March 24, 2011 Report Posted March 24, 2011 Especially if they should be looking for zerk fittings (actually Alemite hydraulic fittings). I'm not sure what a "zirc fitting" would look like. http://www.ply33.com/Backmatter/LubricationFittings I used to take my modern cars to the quickie oil change places. That lasted until one of them stripped the threads for the drain plug on the oil pan. I'm afraid to take my old car to the quickie oil change places as getting a replacement pan is a heck of a lot harder than for my old Jeep. And I bet they'd blow out the rear axle seals when lubricating the rear axle bearings. I used to as well but after taking a 93 Escort in for an oil change the tech reinstalled the drain plug with an impact wrench. I wish he had stripped the threads but instead he just fused it to the pan. I ended up having to drill the old plug out and tap it for a different one. I'll never take a car in for basic service again. I'd rather roll around on the shop floor and do it myself. Quote
TodFitch Posted March 24, 2011 Report Posted March 24, 2011 Check this out....http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,747201,00.html Tom Thanks for posting that interesting bit of business history from the era when my car was built. I'll have to remember to capitalize the Z in Zerk now that I know that the inventor's name was Oscar Ulysses Zerk. Quote
Powerhouse Posted March 25, 2011 Report Posted March 25, 2011 He might still be older than you now. hahaha... yeah....that was not the write way to put it. Quote
T120 Posted March 26, 2011 Report Posted March 26, 2011 (edited) Hey Rodney,Nice that you have a good relationship with your Jiffy Lube place.It's great that you can be there underneath your car and check things out... Edited March 26, 2011 by Ralph D25cpe Quote
Jim Yergin Posted March 26, 2011 Report Posted March 26, 2011 Hey Rodney,Nice that you have a good relationship with your Jiffy Lube place.It's great that you can be there underneath your car and check things out... Knowing Rodney, I would expect him to have a good relationship with everyone he deals with. Jim Yergin Quote
BobT-47P15 Posted March 26, 2011 Report Posted March 26, 2011 Hmmm......learn something new every day. "I'll have to remember to capitalize the Z in Zerk now that I know that the inventor's name was Oscar Ulysses Zerk. " __________________ Never did know why they were called that - but everything has some sort of name. Quote
Joe Flanagan Posted March 26, 2011 Report Posted March 26, 2011 True. Just think of Mr. Crapper. Quote
Rodney Bullock Posted March 26, 2011 Author Report Posted March 26, 2011 Only Joe would come up with that. Jim. I try to be good to folks, sometimes it pays off sometimes it don't. I need to see what going on under the car because I hear things all the time. Fathers day is coming up soon so I need the car plymouth top notch. Quote
Niel Hoback Posted March 26, 2011 Report Posted March 26, 2011 "I need to see what going on under the car because I hear things all the time." Rodney, have you seen the cat lately? Quote
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