Robert Thornton Posted November 3, 2010 Report Share Posted November 3, 2010 The inside mirrors mounted on center post of pilot-house trucks. Is this stock or did it come from cars of the 50s. And where can one be found and how is it mounted. thanks Robert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KJ's Dodge Posted November 3, 2010 Report Share Posted November 3, 2010 (edited) The trucks with a rearview mirror on the center post that I have seen have to be stock in my opinion. Bob can probably share some photos of a number of his six trucks with rearview mirrors. The mirror and associated trim have to be stock or at the minimum dealer installed. I don't believe that Don Bunn's book has a rearview mirror options listed but if you look closely at the pics in his book you can see that it exists. The mirrors are a little above the center on the center post and the base of the mirror is integrated into the trim. Like any option it is much more common place not to have it, than to have it. KJ Edited November 4, 2010 by KJ's Dodge Corrected my error Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgeb4ya Posted November 3, 2010 Report Share Posted November 3, 2010 Here is a not so good pic of a factory inside rear view mirror on one of my trucks. I will get some better pics later in the week. The mirror is mounted on a 1 piece special stamped division bar to accept the mirror stem and thin backside nut. I have never seen it listed as an Std or optional mirror in the Dodge truck data books or any truck special equipment catalogs either. They are quite rare to say the least. I think I saw 1 or 2 inside mirrors in Don Bunn's reprint book that I just got last week. Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggdad1951 Posted November 3, 2010 Report Share Posted November 3, 2010 Here is a not so good pic of a factory inside rear view mirror on one of my trucks. I will get some better pics later in the week. The mirror is mounted on a 1 piece special stamped division bar to accept the mirror stem and thin backside nut. I have never seen it listed as an Std or optional mirror in the Dodge truck data books or any truck special equipment catalogs either. They are quite rare to say the least. I think I saw 1 or 2 inside mirrors in Don Bunn's reprint book that I just got last week.Bob If you took some good closeup pictures with a measuring device and or sketched up the thing I might be able to have some made (at least the mounting aspects) Finding a close mirror to mount would be the next step. I know I'm interested in having something like that if it was stock (oroptinal) in the '51's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young Ed Posted November 3, 2010 Report Share Posted November 3, 2010 That mirror looks quite similar to the 46-48 car mirror. It wouldnt surprise me one bit if mopar shared a piece like that between car and truck. I know the factory heater for my 46 pickup is the same as the cheapest one available for 46-48 plymouths. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanksB3B Posted November 3, 2010 Report Share Posted November 3, 2010 my long departed friend "Slick" (Bob Slickenmeyer) who got me started in this whole mess by shouting out his car window "Hey do you need fenders and runningboards for that thing" gave me the mirror I have and told me that it was for a car (it is oval instead of the more rectangular version that he said was correct for trucks) So maybe the mirror shown in red interior is the correct, stock one. Hank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young Ed Posted November 3, 2010 Report Share Posted November 3, 2010 Hank that looks like the next few years of car 49-52. Which is actually what I have in my 48 plymouth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reg Evans Posted November 3, 2010 Report Share Posted November 3, 2010 Mine also had one like Hank's when I got it. I replaced it with a wider day/night one to keep an eye on the tailgaters day or night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanksB3B Posted November 3, 2010 Report Share Posted November 3, 2010 Hank that looks like the next few years of car 49-52. Which is actually what I have in my 48 plymouth. It works fine though, and I'd have to say my 5 window just doesn't have any blind spots. Although I running them, the 5-1/2" round mirrors could have used a tad more thought on Detroit's drafting board, back in the day. Hank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Truck Posted November 3, 2010 Report Share Posted November 3, 2010 Mine is the original mirror. Here's some pictures before I refinished it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgeb4ya Posted November 3, 2010 Report Share Posted November 3, 2010 (edited) Some more pics of OE inside truck mirrors . They do use P15/maybe dodge and Desoto mirrors too. Notice the stamped depression where the mirror stem goes through. Center line of mirror shaft from top of moulding is 6-1/2" down. Bob Edited November 3, 2010 by Dodgeb4ya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olddodgeguy Posted November 5, 2010 Report Share Posted November 5, 2010 This thread got me interested so went through my pile of parts for both of my 49's. The 5 window had a mirror but the 3 window did not. After looking at the 5 window I'm not sure if it is stock or not. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young Ed Posted November 5, 2010 Report Share Posted November 5, 2010 Thats a guide day/night mirror. But if you have the proper bar that mounts the mirror to the windshield you should be able to put a proper looking car mirror in there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merle Coggins Posted November 5, 2010 Report Share Posted November 5, 2010 This is an interesting thread. I've been wanting to put a "correct" mirror in my truck and get rid of the '70 Challenger mirror I am currently using. If I understand all of this correctly the divider bar is different when a mirror is installed? You can't just drill another hole and mount a mirror into it? I see that Roberts sells repro mirrors. Can I get one of those and mount it to my original bar? Merle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgeb4ya Posted November 5, 2010 Report Share Posted November 5, 2010 This is an interesting thread. I've been wanting to put a "correct" mirror in my truck and get rid of the '70 Challenger mirror I am currently using. If I understand all of this correctly the divider bar is different when a mirror is installed? You can't just drill another hole and mount a mirror into it? I see that Roberts sells repro mirrors. Can I get one of those and mount it to my original bar?Merle Thats right Merle, -the division bar is stamped for the mirror base stud and backside thin nut. One of the pictures shows a NOS standard non mirror division bar next to the bar with the mirror. Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merle Coggins Posted November 5, 2010 Report Share Posted November 5, 2010 Yes, I noticed that hump in your picture, Bob. However, I don't see it in the rest of the pictures from Reg, Hank, or monkeytruck. That's why I asked if I could just drill a hole in mine and mount up a mirror. By the way Bob, your Wig-Wag is hanging... you must be out of air. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reg Evans Posted November 5, 2010 Report Share Posted November 5, 2010 Yes Merle, You can just drill a hole and use a thin nut on the back side to secure the arm. I did have one once where the p.o. drilled the hole too high on the divider and the mirror could not be adjusted correcty. The only person who'll know that it's not factory is Bob. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggdad1951 Posted November 5, 2010 Report Share Posted November 5, 2010 Yes Merle, You can just drill a hole and use a thin nut on the back side to secure the arm. I did have one once where the p.o. drilled the hole too high on the divider and the mirror could not be adjusted correcty. The only person who'll know that it's not factory is Bob. and everyone on the board! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merle Coggins Posted November 5, 2010 Report Share Posted November 5, 2010 It'll still be closer to stock than the Challenger mirror I have attached to the header above the windshield. The arm on it is just a bit too short and I can't get a good adjustment for proper rear view. It works but it's not right. Merle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KJ's Dodge Posted November 5, 2010 Report Share Posted November 5, 2010 Bob, When I was in your cab of your B4YA, your big red truck, earlier this year I could have sworn that the center trim for the mirror was two parts, a lower and an upper piece with the mirror mounted on the upper piece. If you look closely at pic three (B4YA Inside Factory mirror.JPG), you can see what looks like a seam below where the mirror mounts. So, my question is the trim in the B4YA two piece or one? KJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reg Evans Posted November 5, 2010 Report Share Posted November 5, 2010 and everyone on the board! Well,the average age of the folks on this board is gettin up there so they'll forget in a couple of days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgeb4ya Posted November 5, 2010 Report Share Posted November 5, 2010 Bob' date='When I was in your cab of your B4YA, your big red truck, earlier this year I could have sworn that the center trim for the mirror was two parts, a lower and an upper piece with the mirror mounted on the upper piece. If you look closely at pic three (B4YA Inside Factory mirror.JPG), you can see what looks like a seam below where the mirror mounts. So, my question is the trim in the B4YA two piece or one? KJ[/quote'] KJ, I shouldn't have let you drink all 4 of those Rum and cokes! It is a one piece moulding. My camera flash isn't working so my pic in the big truck cab is lacking-I'll put a light in there to get a better picture---right now! Here are the Best pic's I can get,.....Just jokin about KJ drinkin-he's a good boy! Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KJ's Dodge Posted November 5, 2010 Report Share Posted November 5, 2010 Hey, that is my drink of choice! Four is about two to many. Now I wish that my truck had a rearview mirror. The PO put just about every other option on my truck when he purchased her in Detriot in April of 1948. KJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Thornton Posted November 6, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 6, 2010 (edited) Thanks to all you. Really helped me a lot, if I can fined a mirror I probably will drill my post to mount it. thanks R.T. note just found a mirror on e-bay with post molding from 51 Chrysler convertible. Got it for 19.00 and shipping looks just like others you posted thanks again hope it will work Edited November 6, 2010 by Robert Thornton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desotodav Posted September 9, 2011 Report Share Posted September 9, 2011 I scrolled through this post reading with great interest as I am about to install the inside factory mirror in my truck. I was fortunate enough to come across a truck with a factory mirror installed. I found that the factory mirrors were hard to come by in the Oz trucks that I have seen, so I was more than willing to agree to the terms of the transfer of ownership of the vehicle - just in order to secure that mirror and post! I also stumbled across a factory mirror in better condition than the one that I already had, and I think that it polished up quite nicely. My questions are: as the factory mirrors that I have are curved on one side and flat on the other, does the curve in the mirror go to the top or bottom? and... the arm attaching the mirror to the windscreen inner centre post is curved, does the curve in the arm go down or up? Desotodav Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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