looking for a mtached set of a connecting rods

[michael.warshaw]

You keep defending your engine guy who is obviously trying to play you like a fiddle and you keep asking what forum members think, getting the advice, and promptly ignoring it.

Then asking another question and ignoring those answers.

I'm curious as to why ask if the answers are ignored???

why is he playing me like a fiddle exactly, how could you pcomment on a motor, which you ahve never seen before, are you saying the engine builder is lying to me, if so about what?

Edited January 6, 2010 by michael.warshaw

[Don Coatney]

What happens when you cannot find the matched set of piston rods?

Let me rosin up my bow.

Your machinest can make your old rods work but it will cost about 4-5 thousand dollars over and above your original price quote.

[dezeldoc]

Mike shoot me his # and i will call him on my dime and put some questions to him and see if he knows what he is doing or not. is that fair then we can put this to rest.

[mackster]

Mike shoot me his # and i will call him on my dime and put some questions to him and see if he knows what he is doing or not. is that fair then we can put this to rest.

Thats very nice of you Dezeldoc, I have a feeling it will only bring another question and your comment ignored like every other good comment or post.....

if he is not willing to see it, doubt anyone can help him. when you put $$$$$$$$$$ on a car and then you realize that its worth $$ and that all those parts did not need to be replaced will be a great wakeup call...

[greg g]

Ask him how the valve guides are supposed to be oriented, that will give a pretty good indication of his acumen regarding the engine.

[PatS....]

why is he playing me like a fiddle exactly, how could you pcomment on a motor, which you ahve never seen before, are you saying the engine builder is lying to me, if so about what?

I understand you know plumbing?

I need a new faucet for the cold water in my laundry room. It's for the washer and never gets turned off and on so now it won't move, and leaks.

My plumber has advised me that I need to have the copper in the new faucet matched to the old copper, otherwise the flux won't clean properly and the solder won't hold.

Where can I find new copper to match the 45 yr old copper in the house so the new fitting won't leak???

Get it now??? Not trying to be a smartass, but I hope you understand now why we feel you are being played.

[dirty dan]

Pat,

I've got a special rosin flux for that I can sell you a 1lb tub for around $300.00. It will save you at least $1,500.00 in replacing all of that old copper. It's gonna look like regular Oatley Paste Flux, but I'm adding a special zinc chloride/steric acid blend to make it work with the old copper. Since you're a forum member I'll throw in the lead-free solder for free.

[michael.warshaw]

Thats very nice of you Dezeldoc, I have a feeling it will only bring another question and your comment ignored like every other good comment or post.....

if he is not willing to see it, doubt anyone can help him. when you put $$$$$$$$$$ on a car and then you realize that its worth $$ and that all those parts did not need to be replaced will be a great wakeup call...

scotts auto 516 887 4809 , please dont be rude to him he is a nice guy.

[michael.warshaw]

I understand you know plumbing?

I need a new faucet for the cold water in my laundry room. It's for the washer and never gets turned off and on so now it won't move, and leaks.

My plumber has advised me that I need to have the copper in the new faucet matched to the old copper, otherwise the flux won't clean properly and the solder won't hold.

Where can I find new copper to match the 45 yr old copper in the house so the new fitting won't leak???

Get it now??? Not trying to be a smartass, but I hope you understand now why we feel you are being played.

i hear ya, im in plumbing but in way different facet in plumbing.

[dezeldoc]

Ok here is the deal, one rod has the wrist pin bushing oversized already, one rod is out by 50 grams on the big end. he was wanting a set from a complete motor hoping to be closer in weight. he said the casting numbers show to be out of a 53. he has done these motors before and as mike says knows them. so with that said he needs a set from a complete motor which i may have along with a correct date head.

[Joe Flanagan]

It was really good of you to do that, Doc.

[michael.warshaw]

yes it was

[Young Ed]

Doc do we know for sure his crank is still the 218 CI one? If so I believe I have a set of rods too. If it was summer I'd have access to about 10 sets but they are all snowed in right now.

[Joe Flanagan]

I've got a set from a 218 also.

[Plymouthy Adams]

has the rod bolts/nuts been checked to see if they are all of the same style and length..could be just as simple as wrong/no matching bolts installed...

[dezeldoc]

Yes the crank is 218. tim he checked all the normal stuff on it. said he has gotten new rods from vintage power wagon and some place here on the west coast and has had a bunch that were way out also even though the casting #'s were the same, hence why he wants a set from a running motor.

[michael.warshaw]

thanks to mr dezel, my motor will one day be running.

[Niel Hoback]

Doc, thanks for relieving the tension. Such a mensch you are.

[PatS....]

Ok here is the deal, one rod has the wrist pin bushing oversized already, one rod is out by 50 grams on the big end. he was wanting a set from a complete motor hoping to be closer in weight. he said the casting numbers show to be out of a 53. he has done these motors before and as mike says knows them. so with that said he needs a set from a complete motor which i may have along with a correct date head.

Explaining THAT makes a world of difference.

[dezeldoc]

Thanks guys, i have the rods but the earliest date code head i have is a 53. Mike how about what shel has the 230 parts? nice little HP up grade and not noticeable by the naked eye.

[james curl]

Michael, since both you and Shel bizzy 48 are both in New York the shipping would not be too bad. The crank is very heavy and will be required if you were to use the 230 rods and pistons. I would be interested in the deal if the price was right, but I had a set of dropped uprights with spindles and disc brakes shipped motor freight from just south of you and it cost me $200.00 so from now on I will not be buying unless it is close enough to drive to and pick up. Check with your mechine shop man to see what he thinks about converting your motor into a 230 cu in motor..

[dezeldoc]

Michael, since both you and Shel bizzy 48 are both in New York the shipping would not be too bad. The crank is very heavy and will be required if you were to use the 230 rods and pistons. I would be interested in the deal if the price was right, but I had a set of dropped uprights with spindles and disc brakes shipped motor freight from just south of you and it cost me $200.00 so from now on I will not be buying unless it is close enough to drive to and pick up. Check with your mechine shop man to see what he thinks about converting your motor into a 230 cu in motor..

WOW i have ship that stuff from the west coast to the east for around 75 bucks.

[michael.warshaw]

i think im going to try and find 218 parts, but i have no idea where im going to find them? when you go 230, bassically the piston just has a wider diameter right?

Edited January 7, 2010 by michael.warshaw

[james curl]

That was dropped in my driveway, I went out on line to check before they were shipped and I do not remember the cost per pound per mile now but thought it about right. The upper and lower A frames were also attached but each side still weighed less than fifty pounds or 100 pounds total. I had a Triump TR 7 5 speed transmission shipped from the same state and it cost me $80.00 five years ago and assumed that the price of fuel had driven the cost up.

[martybose]

i think im going to try and find 218 parts, but i have no idea where im going to find them? when you go 230, bassically the piston just has a wider diameter right?

Nope, the bore is the same, but the crank has a longer stroke. If memory serves, you need the 230 crank, rods and flywheel, and you can reuse the 218 pistons. Someone needs to verify the last, as I started with a 230.

Marty