Vin numbers

[P-12 Tommy]

Hey guys, since my vin tag is missing from my right A-pillar, what are the location of any vin numbers on the engine, frame, etc............

Thanks, Tom

[greg g]

Nothing on the left?? the engine is just the engine number, it is on the flat pad cast into the block above the generator. I do't think there is a duplicat serial number on the frame. Some say check the frame above the left rear axle.

[anthonyb]

Tom,

On my '41 P11D the engine number was stamped on the frame. I have seen it but just can't remember where it is.

At least I had the original engine in the beast.

Anthonyb

[oldmopar]

On my 47 p15 there were numbers on the left rear frame above the axle. It was a few years ago I forget what the numbers matched.

[P-12 Tommy]

Nothing on the left?? the engine is just the engine number, it is on the flat pad cast into the block above the generator. I do't think there is a duplicat serial number on the frame. Some say check the frame above the left rear axle.

Hey Greg, I know the engine no. Just don't know where else on the car. I'll look above the left rear axle.

Thanks, Tom

[Captain Neon]

Hey guys, since my vin tag is missing from my right A-pillar, what are the location of any vin numbers on the engine, frame, etc............

Thanks, Tom

The title?

[48mirage]

It depends on the state, but here in Kansas, my '49 was originally titled with the engine number.

[P-12 Tommy]

The title?

My title says(identification number): P12281801

[P-12 Tommy]

It depends on the state, but here in Kansas, my '49 was originally titled with the engine number.

You're probably right. I just want to physically see a vin no. somewhere else on the car.

[Captain Neon]

My title says(identification number): P12281801

Looks like they used the engine number when they titled your car.

[P-12 Tommy]

Looks like they used the engine number when they titled your car.

Looks that way huh?

[TodFitch]

Looks that way huh?

It was pretty common to use the engine number when registering the car. The serial numbers for P12 were all numeric strings but the engine numbers started with the engineering code (P12).

[lancair90]

I have a '49 Dodge Club Coupe and the vin is on the left A-pillar

[BobT-47P15]

On my 47 P15, the number is stamped on the frame, a bit in front of the rear axle

as I recall. It's the same as the motor number. My ID number is on a rectangular

metal tag on the left front door post. The paint was worn off, but you can still

read the numbers stamped into it. Can't recall what those numbers are supposed

to represent.

[TodFitch]

On my 47 P15, the number is stamped on the frame, a bit in front of the rear axle

as I recall. It's the same as the motor number. My ID number is on a rectangular

metal tag on the left front door post. The paint was worn off, but you can still

read the numbers stamped into it. Can't recall what those numbers are supposed

to represent.

The number on the front door post are the serial number of the car. Each factory was allocated a run of serial numbers for each run of cars it was making. So you can use the serial number to figure out the factory your car was built it, exactly what your car was (deluxe vs special deluxe) and by looking at where your number is in the sequence you can get an idea of the part of the year your car was built.

Not quite as revealing as a modern VIN, but you can get a bit out of it.

If you want more information, that is also the number you need to send to the Chrysler Historical Collection to get a copy of the "build card" which will tell you a lot more (original engine number, original body number, options, etc.). The exact information varies with era.

[40phil41]

On my 1940 Dodge, the model number (D14) is stamped on the top side of the left rear frame (just behind the wheel hump if I recall correctly).

In 1956 it was registered with the engine number (D14_____). This is based on a 1956 insurance slip which I still have. Since the title was lost, I re-registered it in 1981 using the serial number.

Phil

[Jim Benjaminson]

:)The number on the frame (left rear frame rail) is the same as the engine number. The only place the serial number appeared was on the metal tag riveted to the door post. Many states registered vehicles by their engine number, so that is the number you will find on the frame if your car was first registered in one of those states. For those that were registered by the true serial number and the plate is gone, you are out of luck!

[Jim Yergin]

Jim,

Welcome to this site. It is good to see you here.

Jim Yergin

[Young Ed]

I'll second that Jims. Welcome aboard.

[greg g]

Hey Jim welcome. But you might need roller blades to keep up o this site as opposed to the snow shoes on the POC board. No offense meant, but the POC bord traffic is two lane based while it whizzes by on the multi lane here.

And please be aware we some time speak modified and upgraded stuff here.

[Roadkingcoupe]

Looks like they used the engine number when they titled your car.

The engine # as SIN was common in the 30's and 40's. This has caused me difficulties importing vehicles. Interesting that Chrysler must have thought the motors would last forever. As previously mentioned the SIN # should be found on the frame.