Cpt.Fred Posted March 31, 2009 Report Posted March 31, 2009 i just tried to get my rear drums off with a drum puller, but those b++++++ds won't do me the favour. what can i do, use heat? i tried a heat gun, still nothing. i tried some tender strinking with a wooden club and a hammer, nothing. i used the emergency brake to keep the drum from turning, that's ok since it works on the drive shaft, doesn't it? it didn't move one tiny bit... boohoo. can i use some REAL heat, i mean flames, or do i wreck the bearings by that? Quote
Joe Flanagan Posted March 31, 2009 Report Posted March 31, 2009 Fred, Did you use a tool similar to the special brake drum puller that is recommended for these cars? There's been a lot of discussion about this on this forum. I think you might find something in the technical archives or just do a search. It's a common enough problem that it's come up quite often. Someone is bound to have a trick that will get those drums off. Quote
Young Ed Posted March 31, 2009 Report Posted March 31, 2009 Everytime I've tried one of these they've come off. Just keep hitting the puller until they come off. Dad bought a 40 plymouth pickup that had been in a junkyard since the late 50s. So it had been laying out in MN winters for 30+ years. Pulled both rear drums off in the junkyard, pulled the shoes, then put the drums back on and towed it home. Quote
oldmopar Posted March 31, 2009 Report Posted March 31, 2009 As Ed said just keep hitting them this is one case where you may need a bigger hammer. I usually hit the handle with a small 4lb. I also have had success with a air gun forget what size socket Quote
Reg Evans Posted March 31, 2009 Report Posted March 31, 2009 I have discovered that my 1/2 " drive pneumatic lug gun works too and is easier than swinging a big hammer. Make sure the shoes aren't frozen to the drum. Quote
hkestes41 Posted March 31, 2009 Report Posted March 31, 2009 When I did mine I went to NAPA and borrowed a slide hammer type puller from their loaner tool program. Came off with just a couple of pulls. Quote
oldmopar Posted March 31, 2009 Report Posted March 31, 2009 When I did mine I went to NAPA and borrowed a slide hammer type puller from their loaner tool program. Came off with just a couple of pulls. a slide hammer will pull the axle I do not see how it will remove the drum Quote
Young Ed Posted March 31, 2009 Report Posted March 31, 2009 The puller we have doesn't have a removable arm that you strike so there's no using an air gun. Quote
hkestes41 Posted March 31, 2009 Report Posted March 31, 2009 a slide hammer will pull the axle I do not see how it will remove the drum Don't know, all I know is that I could not find a puller like the ones I have seen pictured on here. Was at NAPA asking if they had one and all they had was the slide hammer. Used it and they came off. Maybe they were already fairly loose and the pulling just broke the final hold. Quote
oldmopar Posted March 31, 2009 Report Posted March 31, 2009 The puller we have doesn't have a removable arm that you strike so there's no using an air gun. On my puller where the arm you hit goes a socket fits on like it was a big bolt. Quote
Young Ed Posted March 31, 2009 Report Posted March 31, 2009 Nope Dads bluepoint pullers are all 1 piece. I know the type you are talking about. I bet using the impact socket works good too. Quote
Norm's Coupe Posted March 31, 2009 Report Posted March 31, 2009 As mentioned, get a 4 pound hammer and slug that thing a few times without mercy, it will pop off. If you want to use heat, a heat gun won't work. You can use a small propane torch though. I did that with mine. Don't think I would use a regular welding torch though. Quote
billwillard Posted March 31, 2009 Report Posted March 31, 2009 I always loosen the nut 3/4 turn and put the carter key back back in. I then drive until I hear a loud pop and I know the drum is lose. Never fails. Bill Quote
Cpt.Fred Posted March 31, 2009 Author Report Posted March 31, 2009 wow, bill, that's a rough one! my drums are turning freely, no problem with that. the puller i got over here is like the one blueskies used, shown on his website. only in the sissy-version, i guess... ruined the puller's front in the first try, it sank right into the center drilling of the axle with no effect on the whole thing. i left the nut screwed on a few turns, but still i was worried of ruining the threads or have the whole flying around my ears if i hit it harder. no use, i guess i have to get a little more cold blooded here. thought there was a trick, maybe. Quote
RobertKB Posted March 31, 2009 Report Posted March 31, 2009 You need to use a puller that is equal (strong enough) to the job. Use a good heavy hammer. Back the nut off a bit as you did so the drum will not fly across the room when it comes off. Do not be afraid to hit the drum puller hard, I mean HARD. Tighten the drum puller often and keep hitting HARD. I recently pulled the drums off a car that sat outside for thirty years with no problem. I tightened the puller really tight and two HARD hits later on each drum and they popped off. I used a good heavy ball peen hammer. Good luck! Quote
Young Ed Posted March 31, 2009 Report Posted March 31, 2009 Yes leave the nut on but make sure you are still pushing against the axle. Don't ask me how I know that...... Quote
Andydodge Posted March 31, 2009 Report Posted March 31, 2009 Fred.......B is BIG, H is Hammer.......F is well, thats for your imagination.........lol......I'd also suggest adding a V to the initials, as in VERY BIG F. HAMMER, makes sure the centre nut is as tight as possible onto the axle, then use the BIGGEST hammer you have, tighten the centre nut again, more wacks, tighten again, more wacks and it will come off........or it should........lol.......good luck, andyd Quote
greg g Posted March 31, 2009 Report Posted March 31, 2009 There is one of those pullers on e pay currently, not very much money yet. Search 194* plymouth. Quote
Norm's Coupe Posted March 31, 2009 Report Posted March 31, 2009 You just gotta get real mad at it when you slug it with that BFH, and look at the situation the way I do. The wheel is stuck on there and I can't get it off. If I can't get it off to fix the problem (brakes or whatever), I'll never be able to drive the car. So...........I get mad at it and really slug it. If it comes off, great. If I happen to break the wheel, or screw up the axle. Well........at least I can fix those then. But........again, if I never get it off, it's never going to get fixed. Quote
RobertKB Posted March 31, 2009 Report Posted March 31, 2009 There is one of those pullers on e pay currently, not very much money yet. Search 194* plymouth. That is the exact kind of puller I use. It worked great on drums that were on for 35+ years. Quote
49roadster Posted April 1, 2009 Report Posted April 1, 2009 Did you back off the shoe adjustment? The fact that the weels spin may not be good enough. Quote
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