BobT-47P15

Probably right Tim...........maybe they were just looking for an excuse to sell more new cars..............

Link to pictures posted on the HAMB. Looks like a batch of old cars bit the dust at that time. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=443652&highlight=death+to+jalopies

Gawsh......if I could just get it into a B J Auction, it would bring 50K..................

Yep........here's a link to a page with pics of many old cars of all kinds in Uraguay............. http://www.google.com/search?q=old+cars+in+uruguay&hl=en&rlz=1R2ADRA_enUS393&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=mNgyUbrHNIKsywGUjoFY&ved=0CDQQsAQ&biw=1024&bih=537 Mixed old and newer in India................ http://www.google.com/search?q=old+cars+in+uruguay&hl=en&rlz=1R2ADRA_enUS393&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=mNgyUbrHNIKsywGUjoFY&ved=0CDQQsAQ&biw=1024&bih=537 There's a guy on the HAMB ('sled' is his handle) who has been living in Mexico the past several years. By being there full time, he has been able to find many old car stashes in back alleys and courtyards but not all prove to be for sale. Some are in pretty decent condition, some not so good. Some pretty rare stuff. He has bought some as he could get them, and has sold some to people from this country. Evidently it's not very difficult to take a car from Mexico to the U.S.

Jim Benjaminson has made a listing over the years of P15 convertibles he has encountered, including mine. I don't know how many he has on his list. John Teee in Cape Girardeau, Mo has a P15 convert.......his father in Calif (who recently passed on) had a matching black and white one. Claybill may still have a ragtop. And a couple others on here. I had a Dodge Wayfarer convert back in the mid 1960s.......have not found another around here since. Also in the late 60s or early 70s - found for sale but did not buy a 54 Plym convert and a 55 DeSoto convert. Have not seen any more of those offered in this area since. I missed out on the only 1947 Dodge convert I ever found here by not staying in closer touch with the owner, who finally decided to sell and I didn't know. So....around here in southwest Missouri......the old MoPar convertibles are whichever you want to say......rare or scarce. However, this has always been more like farming country.....and converts were more often sold in big cities and resort areas.

I think the allen wrench thing sounds right........of course, it will be on the bottom side of the knob.......unless you can turn it to the side.

Suppose it could be Canadian? Does it have the DPCD marking on the back along with a part number?

I suppose it depends where you're looking. Sometimes more stuff than others on ebay. Just my guess. Many sellers been watching too much Barrett Jackson when it comes to pricing.

I agree with others.........car and truck separate, and leave things as they are now on all the rest. Works fine for me. Sometimes I learn stuff even if it's not directly related to a P15. And I enjoy most of the off topic posts about assorted things.

I don't recall seeing this one before.........so am posting a link to the ad due to more pics and a narrative. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1956-Chrysler-Ghia-Concept-Car-Station-Wagon-by-Virgil-Exner-Show-Car-/230930021330?_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&forcev4exp=true#ht_3729wt_1165

The poster on the HAMB took these photos earlier this year. I enjoy seing those 40s and 50s cars and how they've repaired and updated them to keep 'em going. Link to the thread if anyone wants to look............................ http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=780458

The P15 convertible production of 46-early 49 totalled only a bit over 15,000.....just above 5,000 per year. I don't know what the total production for all models was in this time. I have seen, around here, a couple P15 verts in salvage yards years ago. Mine had been in some sort of accident and been mostly repaired, but was in the possession of a salvage dealer (being kept in a garage) when I found it. It was run down. An area fellow I know kept looking for a convert and finally just a few years ago......bought one at a farm sale that had been chopped off in the rear and made into a sawmill. So.....at least in this part of the country they are scarce. And, as with most things, the price has steadily increased on them over time.

A registration form will be accepted instead of a title. Here's a link to the Historical section website. http://wpchryslermuseum.org/page.aspx?pid=501

No......my car was NOT sold by this dealer, as far as I know. I have no idea where it was initially sold, but was built in Detroit. The reason I haven't sent in to Chrysler Historical is there is some wrong information on the title I received from the salvage guy where I bought the car. The history folks now want a copy of your title, and if they look up based on the number found there they will not get the right car. I have found the correct original number that is stamped into the frame, so I know what that is since the original engine is long gone. I know the car was Sumac Red with maroon and grey interior when new.....it had 16 inch wheels......is a 1947 model. Had a radio, a clock and a lighter....plus dual heaters. Pretty sure only the passenger side heater was original to the car as the one on the driver's side did not match it. I decided that since the car is mainly driven in fairly warm weather, one heater would be adequate. So, since it doesn't appear to be critical where the car really came from, (even tho it would be interesting to know), I decided to adopt the local dealership. Of course, at a show, nobody really pays much attention to it's origin anyway. They just see what's sitting there before them. The car looked like this when I got it in 1973.

You might check with your everyday auto supply store.......they can often get certain parts new or rebuilt for our 40s cars......sometimes at reasonable prices. I know NAPA has some things, and O'Reilly has some, too. If they don't have something in stock, they can often get it from their warehouse in a couple days. I don't know about stores such as AutoZone, Pep Boys, etc.....as I usually deal with the two mentioned.

So, I tried to take the poll GTK has instituted to acquire some input from us. But, at the end I get this message: Oops! Something went wrong! [#10355]You must cast your vote in each question of the poll. Need Help? Our help documentation Contact the community administrator I did not cast a vote for the one question that said if you answered the prior one no, then don't need to answer this one.

Ahh So........llink no workee.........

Just one other possible tidbit of information........since my car actually has about a 39 Dodge pickup rearend under it, it requires a different rear wheel brake cylinder than the average P15. It's a tad larger and, in my experience, harder to find. The only place I could find new ones was from everyone's friend, Andy Bernbaum. They ran about $50 each as I recall. (I still have the last two I bought a couple years ago wrapped up for future use). In order to get the correct cylinder a few years ago, I had to send him one of the old ones to match with. As most of you know, Andy has retired and sold the business......so perhaps the telephone contacts will now be a bit more pleasant. I will say that although brusque, Andy did seem to know his stuff. (Not flaming.....just sayin'). Oh....and another brake cyl thing I have encountered.........a couple years ago when I bought all new cyls from O'Reilly Auto Parts for the brown P15 coupe I ordered the closest thing they have available which is listed as for a 1951 Plymouth (as I recall). When the mechanic tried to put them on, the shoes would not back off far enough and the drum would just barely go on. After looking, we discovered that the indention where the pin joins the cyl was tapered like a "V", requiring a pin with pointed end. The pins on the car were rounded ends......therefore would not seat correctly. So, I took back to O'Reilly and bought some thru someone else....which worked. The point is......you might want to check to see if the cylinder and end of pin match up correctly. Or, if possible, get new pins. As I remember, O'Reilly could not supply new pins.

Those type springs appear on ebay sometimes.....at least I think that's what they are. May be available from some parts sources, This is the only door latch pic I seem to have......

Then.......at a later date I was over in Kansas visiting with a fellow who had some old cars.........and went into his garage where he had a 1955 Plymouth with something like 13,000 miles on it. In the trunk were a couple manuals and the item below. Dealer license plate topper. Of course he didn't want to sell it, wanted to keep it with his car. So all I could do was take a picture. In all my travels around here, I've not run onto another such topper.

Randy.....when scrolling on down in that article and reading the replies of interested parties......I don't believe they're quite ready to do away with the cheese yet.

Jon.......just look around at cars in your travels. If you see a color you like on a late model Kia or some-such, then you could follow up with a paint store and narrow down the area in which to search. Just a thought.

I went to our local public library and looked at the R L Polk city directory for 1947. In it was a half page ad for this Joplin dealership. By coincidence the son of one partner, Mr. Jardon, is in my Sunday school class at church. I've asked him if he had any dealership memorabilia and he says not. I guess he just wasn't much interested in the car business as he went on to become a banker and attorney. Anyway, this is the ad I had them make me a copy of.....think they charged 50 cents.

If you want to see examples of chopped cars, you will probably find more examples of Fords and Chevys than of Plymouths. Could try going to the HAMB and using search for something like "chopped 1947 two door sedan" and see what appears. I'm not that crazy about most top chops as the top gets shorter but the body is still the same dimensions. However, there are some good looking cars where the chops have been done well and they look fine in the final analysis. (My 2 cents.)

Guess I haven't looked for a tube very hard on ebay lately according to the info that there are four currently offered. Prior to the tornado, I had two plain metal ones, but afterward I haven't seen either one.....they probably ended up in someone's yard east of here. Don't really need one at the moment, but I had bought them at reasonable prices in the past just to have if necessary.