Seat Belt Prices/Sources

[55 Fargo]

Hi all, I cannot believe this, in my area with a city 18 miles away with 800000 people, only 1 place sells seat lap belts, out of many many shops and parts stores.

They are $34.95 each seat, so times 4, is $140.00 plus tax, and no mounting hardware.

I don't mean to sound cheap, but I am not paying that for lap belts, I am off to the wreckers to see what I can find for a fraction of the price.

I want to install 4 seatbelts in my 47 Chrysler Coupe, as I have been driving her on the highway without, I have taken the kids down my gravel road real slow, but I shouldn't have, I need belts for them as well as me.

Any idea what types of vehicles may be a good donor for belts, I am looking for a simplistic belt, nothing to complicated for my pea brain..........Fred

[Arthur1947]

Rockwood,

Check out Kanter. Mounting hardware is included plus a piece of mind knowing that they are new. $25 for lap belts.

http://www.kanter.com/headliners.htm#seat%20belt

Best.

ARTHUR

[55 Fargo]

Thanx Man, just was looking in there cataloque, I guess thats not a bad price as there's includes the hardware..........Fred

[Plymouthy Adams]

quick look at almost any wrecking yard will net a set of seat belts that would be easily installed to include shoulder restraints if you are so inclined....so set of four would not cost much..probably about 40-50 bucks

[55 Fargo]

Thanx Tim, thats what I figure too. I don't want anything overly complicated for my limited modifying skills...........Thanx Fred

[PatS....]

Try the mid 80's Dodge Ram truck for the fronts...very simple and easy, Early 90's Lincoln Town car for rear shoulder belts...not all had them but also simple and easy.

[55 Fargo]

Thanx Pat, should be able to find something in the numerous yards around Winnipeg and Selkirk..............Fred

[greg g]

Rear seats of older SUVs and Station wagons. Do not get belts from a car that has been in an accident. Check Julianos.com for new and for mounting brackets and a How to page.

[hkestes41]

Fred try this.

http://www.seatbeltsplus.com/

From $16.95 per belt.

[Plymouthy Adams]

hkestes41 said:

Fred try this.

http://www.seatbeltsplus.com/

From $16.95 per belt.

your link is contaminated with an overlay of some sort....

here is a shot of the 41 business coupe..with retractor covers...

 

Edited May 20, 2017 by Plymouthy Adams

[50PlymouthSled]

Did the cars come originally with lap belts? Or belts at all for that matter? I can't seem to recall when the seatbelt law came into effect. Thanks.

[JerseyHarold]

Seatbelts became mandatory around 1964-65. Some makes offered them earlier as options.

[greg g]

I believe Ford offered seatbelts as a option in the 56 or 57 T bird. If I remember correctly that was the first American production car to offer them. I believe 63 was the year all seating positions had lap belts in passenger cars, next year in light trucks. The three point harness came about in the early 70's.

[TodFitch]

I believe Ford offered seatbelts as a option in the 56 or 57 T bird. If I remember correctly that was the first American production car to offer them. I believe 63 was the year all seating positions had lap belts in passenger cars, next year in light trucks. The three point harness came about in the early 70's.

My family bought a new 1963 Plymouth near the end of the model year. Rear lap belts were not an option. And my parents wanted lap belts all around and wanted them to match. So they ordered the car with no belts then installed after market ones in all six seating positions (front bench seat could hold three people). That way they all matched.

Anyway from that memory, I'd hazard the guess that front belts were not required nationally in 1963. However it might have been a state requirement as California uses a 1962 cut off:

27314. (a) No dealer shall sell or offer for sale any used passenger vehicle that was manufactured on or after January 1, 1962, other than a motorcycle, unless it is equipped with at least two seatbelts which are installed for the use of persons in the front seat of the vehicle.

( No dealer shall sell or offer for sale any used passenger vehicle manufactured on or after January 1, 1968, other than a motorcycle, unless it is equipped with seatbelts for each seating position.

© Seatbelts required in subdivisions (a) and ( shall comply with regulations established by the department.

(d) The requirements of this section shall not apply to sales to dealers, automobile dismantlers, or junk dealers.

Amended Ch. 723, Stats. 1979. Effective January 1, 1980.

[James_Douglas]

http://www.ssnake-oyl.com/

[55 Fargo]

Fred try this.

http://www.seatbeltsplus.com/

From $16.95 per belt.

Hi all, phoned this outfit in California, liked there prices, almost felt like I was phoning Bernbombs, not an overly customer oriented rep on the line.

The to top it all off, he say's, "we don't ship to Canada", man like we are some strange country across the world, well, we are a little strange here.

I asked him if he could ship to a friends place in Pembina North Dakota, he says, only if they order it, with there credit card, now my Visa and MC are no good at this company either, geesh, not my day.

I also went to a wrecker, pulled seat belts out of a 1980s Fifth avenue, I was told a certain price before removal, than after they were out, the price went up, I left them there, they were dirty anyway, noy sure if I should wash seatbelt material. Again not my day, gonna try Julianos, to see what they say.

[Plymouthy Adams]

they did have a guy selling belts at the car show...cheezy looking for just a lap belt..I man,,who wants a lift bcukle strap any way..cheap and cheap looking..only plus was the color selection..retractables without shoulder strap..65.00...quik dicking around here and go to your parts place and pull a few out of a car and get it done...look real close at the early B Dodge vans and thier setup..you may just like these suckers...I probably will look to these in my 48 Plymouth business Coupe

[55 Fargo]

Fred,

The belts from JC Whitney are nice too. They also come with all the mounting hardware. They'll probably even take that credit card of yours too.

Actually, I can understand the other place you were trying to order from not wanting to ship across the boarder, especially if they use UPS. We use to ship to Canada but UPS lost about half the shipments so we stopped shipping there. We can't ship our stuff Parcel Post, they won't take it.

Also, I'm guessing the reason he wouldn't take your credit card and shipping in the US is because of the money difference. If you buy something on a credit card, the company has to pay a percentage to the card company for handling each transaction. In addition to that, if the credit card is through a non US bank, the card company will hit the seller with a charge for converting the money to US dollars. Its nothing personal, its just that they don't want to pay conversion rate to convert the money on top of the other fees they get hit with. I'll bet if you sent a money order in US dollars to them along with the order, they would then ship to that US address you wanted to ship to.

Norm, I agree with the rationale for doing international business, but believe me, business is done every day of the year between our 2 countires, both private and commercial, we are very big trading partners. I rarely come across this scenario, just about every company does business with the Canadian Market, and vice/versa. The Canadian and US dollar has been about equal a while now, up or down a ent or 2, so the big difference on exchange is no longer there.

Having said all of this, I can understand a business not wanting a hassle of shipping across borders if you don't have to, but brokers and couriers usually handle all of that.

The consumer usually sucks up the exchange and duty, Kanter, Bernbaum, Roberts all ship to Canada with out question.

I have spoken, LOL

[PatS....]

Seems to me a company is doing something wrong by discounting 30+ million people because of some minor border issues. We don't ALL live in igloos and drive dogsleds!!!

One or two of us even have indoor plumbing and running water!

I wouldn't want the misfortune to deal with idiots like that anyway.

[Plymouthy Adams]

I can very much relate to the border crossing of packages in both shipping and receiving...it takes minimun of three weeks..not many customer relation departments want to main the compliant line for some anxious person awaiting deliverly. Why customs ties this stuff as much as they do I have no idea..in my last E-bay dealing with a medium size package, worng item shipped, damaged item sent and new item sent without me having to send sent item back first..still was over 9 weeks satisfying that deal. It took an additional 3 weeks for the other party to get the damaged item back. That may very well may explain a bit of the WHY NOT

[55 Fargo]

Yes sometimes there are delays, Millions of dollars of products cross the Canada/USA border everyday.

I realize that small private import/export takes a little longer, but big business is done daily, for many products and industries, and yes sometimes a US product is handled by a Canadian distributor.

The last bigger itme I did import from the USA was my gastank, it came from Tanks.inc, which is located in southern Minnesota, I had it in 5 days, I would have had it in 3 days, but I wasn't home to receive the parcel, so they took it to the terminal, I picked up the item 2 days later, it was pricey, but I did get it.

I'ts only the postal service that is blasted slow, not private carriers/brokers.

I still beleive it is the right of the dealer to sell to whom they choose, and if they want to exclude Canadas market fine, but trust me most USA businesses do not, and are willing to sell to Canadians and are evry helpful...............Fred

[Plymouthy Adams]

Most all dealing I have had with Canadian customers/sellers..they chose to us the postal service so to avoid the very hign handling fee associated with private carrier...so I should have stated POSTAL in my prior posting..and the marking of the customs declarationis also very critcal to the Canadian side of the transaction.

[PatS....]

The Canadian Post office decided a few years ago to close the postal customs offices in the major cities and combine all of them in Vancouver.

So, for inbound items from anywhere outside the country, no matter if you are shipping from Buffalo, NY to Toronto...jsut across the bridge, the item has to travel to Vancouver to go through customs!!!

Needless to say they are backed up a long time and no amount of exlax will releive the back up.

Purolator, however, is owned by the Canadian Postal Service and doesn't have to use that "system".

For inbound shipments, Purolator is the best. Never lost a shipment yet. Niether did UPS, but the customs brokerage fees UPS charges are ridiculous.

Hey Norm, did you guys ever think to switch carriers rather than lose 30+ million potential customers? About the same population as California.

If they lost a few shipments to Chicago, would you quit shipping to Illinois?

Just that it doesn't make business sense to cut off customers just because of an incompetent carrier.

My buddy runs a Rhino Lining dealership and gets all his supplies such as 45 gallon drums and some big boxes of other chemicals and such from Texas. He uses Yellow and a shipment takes 5 days from Texas to Calgary hassle free. There are ways to get it done if you want. There are quite a few American carriers who do a great job to Canada.

And back, they never go home empty.

[Plymouthy Adams]

It is just not prudent to send a semi to a destination without provisions for a return consignment..I can just see the logistical nightmare arranging shipments can get into...I HATE paperwork..98% of all my work related problems at work is caused by the "Pretty Paper People" those who have to show on paper what can never be accomplished at the work center..I can tell you this..their last little "looks good on paper" blunder has cost them a fortune to correct...

[PatS....]

They said computers would eliminate paperwork. How come I'm lost without a printer?