Window

[jgreg53]

My front passenger window is cracked. How hard is it to change. And have any of you ordered Glass from bernbaum?

[moparfun]

Have not ordered glass from bernbaum when I needed glass I made a cardboard template of the glass needed and went to a local auto glass shop. Not hard to change plenty of how to videos on line. I would ask why did the window break? On my 50 the door hinges needed attention as well as the window tracks.

[jgreg53]

I have no idea why it broke. It was a really hot summer. The car was outside I went out to start it up and saw the Crack. What about the metal divider on the glass. Does it come off?

[Los_Control]

Really hot weather can crack glass. Although it is not consistent on which glass gets cracked.

My Uncle had it happen several times. He had 2 acres full of project cars .... would always roll the windows down a inch or so for ventilation to avoid it.

 

Has never happened to me, I did see it on one of his cars before though.

[Sam Buchanan]

1 hour ago, jgreg53 said:

My front passenger window is cracked. How hard is it to change. And have any of you ordered Glass from bernbaum?

 

I purchased a driver door glass for my P15 from Bob's Classic Auto Glass, it fit perfectly.

 

https://www.vendio.com/stores/bobsclassicautoglass/category/plymouth-glass/catId=4144656

 

You will purchase glass only, the metal trim needs to be reinstalled.

Edited March 6, 2023 by Sam Buchanan

[D35 Torpedo]

If your windshield has metal trim, then there is a locking insert that goes inside. Pull it and the rubber will collapse. If it has no trim then it's just a rope-in. One way needs rope, the other an insert tool. 

[Sam Buchanan]

1 hour ago, Sam Buchanan said:

 

I purchased a driver door glass for my P15 from Bob's Classic Auto Glass, it fit perfectly.

 

https://www.vendio.com/stores/bobsclassicautoglass/category/plymouth-glass/catId=4144656

 

You will purchase glass only, the metal trim needs to be reinstalled.

 

Ok, maybe by front passenger window you are referring to the windshield?? Bob's has that glass also.

[harmony]

23 hours ago, jgreg53 said:

I have no idea why it broke. It was a really hot summer. The car was outside I went out to start it up and saw the Crack. What about the metal divider on the glass. Does it come off?

Do you mean the front passenger door window?  Or the front passenger windshield?

[jgreg53]

Front passenger door window

[harmony]

It's not that difficult, assuming you can get the no draft window out. The first thing you'll have to do is remove the inside garnishing, with a Phillips screwdriver #1, assuming the fasteners are original.  They will be a #6 and a few of them are quite long.  When you take them out, try to remember the angle they are on.  Or take a picture with your phone for each one.  Because where they screw in, is not close to the garnish, ( 1/2" - 1 1/2" away) so it's easy to spend a lot of time trying to find the hole that the screws go into when you're putting it all back together.  Next remove the door panel.  Next remove the bolt that holds the window front vertical runner.  Then there is a couple machine screws that you'll have to remove at the top edge of the door.  ( the flat portion across the top as it slopes forward.  About 2 inches wide) Those machine screws will hold the pivoting bracket for the top of the no draft window.  Then you'll have to wiggle that entire assembly out. It's helpful to have a couple small prybars or flat screwdrivers.  It will be in there really tight.  Once again try to remember exactly the angle that that whole assembly comes out.  It will only come out one way.  I think it has to tilt inwards.  (By the way when that no draft assembly goes back in, it might help to have a rubber mallet as a persuader.  It's a super tight fit.)   Then there will be a couple large washer like clips that hold your broken window to the bottom track.  You're almost certain to send them across the room.  So try to watch where they land.  Then there is a part of the inner door sheet metal that sort of has a depression or slot in it.  Just aft of where that no draft is.  It's easy to see.    It's there to allow the large wheels on the bottom of the window to slip out right at that spot.  So you'll lift the window up and then tilt it out( if I remember correctly) Once the front wheel comes out ( not really a wheel, but you'll know what I mean once you see them), then tilt the window while wiggling it up and out, on an angle until the wheel at the back of the window is lined up with that slot I mentioned. 

Depending on the condition of the car, the track at the bottom of the window may be rusted.  It might be super hard to get the glass out of it, without damaging that track.  My advise would be to take it to an Auto glass shop and just hand it to them.  They'll hand it back to you with the bill.  That's the best way to do it.  Why take the risk of the window getting broken in shipment from Burnbaum's.  It would be even better to have an auto glass company that is used to working on older cars.  They might take a little more care and attention to the job.  If that track assembly is really rusted, it might not be a bad idea to have it bead blasted before the new glass is installed in it.  The auto glass shop might do that for you right there in house.

 

Easy for me to say all that right.  haha!  If you have any questions just ask.  Unfortunately I don't think I took any pictures of the process when I did it last.  Mostly because both my hands were occupied and too busy to be taking pictures once I was holding that window trying to figure out which way to tilt or wiggle it.

I should mention that I was working on a 1947 Chrysler Royal Coupe,  but I'm thinking it is probably the same for your car.  Someone here may correct me if I'm wrong.

 

Edited March 8, 2023 by harmony

[D35 Torpedo]

The other option is to remove the opposite side glass( the one that isnt broken) and template it. A local glass shop can use the template to make a new window. You can have them make it in laminate or plate. Laminate will be cheaper. Plate will have to be sent out for tempering.

[Dan Hiebert]

Ditto harmony's post.  If you have a service manual, it also details removal of those windows.  You mention it is cracked, as opposed to shattered.  Postwar MoPar cars had safety glass (laminate) all around, not just the windshield, (first auto company to do so), so it should come out in one piece.  Once out, any good auto glass shop can remove the glass from the track / divider, make a new one from stock material, and install it back on the track / divider.  That way they can match the tint (if any), too.  Then you just put the whole assembly back in the door in reverse order of how it came out.

 

If you want to do most of it yourself, it can be tricky to get the glass out of the track / divider if those parts are deteriorated. Once out, I'd still recommend taking the glass to a local shop to have a replacement made.  Some may have a template already, but if not, they'll ask for the original piece.  Of course, a cardboard template will work just as well, but that's an extra step that may not be necessary.  Nothing against Bernbaum, but it's just flat laminate glass that any auto glass shop can make up for you.  Reinstalling can be a tad tricky, too.  There is the glass setting material like the original, or what most shops use now, a black urethane caulk / cement that works better, but can be messy.

 

It is not hard to do.  I replaced all the side windows in our D24 shortly after we first got it, they were all cracked to varying extents from a lifetime of desert exposure.   I got the glass cut at a commercial shop, but I don't remember the name, this was 30 years ago.  I used the glass setting strips.  The driver's side divider has since wiggle loose, and although I still have glass setting strips, I think I'll try that urethane stuff to fix it.

[Sam Buchanan]

I used windshield adhesive from the local parts store when I replaced the driver side glass in my P15. The job can be a little tedious but well within the capabilities of someone with reasonable shop skills. I was very pleased with the glass I purchased from Bob's Classic Auto Glass.