bkahler Posted December 23, 2019 Report Posted December 23, 2019 18 minutes ago, CO54 said: So, I love my family. My brother-in-law had the correct 1-11/16 socket to pull the crankshaft nut. What's the best way to pull the pulley? Please advise. Gear puller This is what I used to pull mine. There should be 2 tapped holes in the pulley. Brad 1 Quote
bkahler Posted December 23, 2019 Report Posted December 23, 2019 Do you plan on going with stock tail lights? Quote
CO54 Posted December 23, 2019 Author Report Posted December 23, 2019 Thanks for insight on a puller, honestly for getting it on the road I'll do trailer lights, and down the road I'll go back to an original style. Budget with 4 kids, and 1 income wins..... Quote
bkahler Posted December 23, 2019 Report Posted December 23, 2019 3 minutes ago, CO54 said: Thanks for insight on a puller, honestly for getting it on the road I'll do trailer lights, and down the road I'll go back to an original style. Budget with 4 kids, and 1 income wins..... I'd check with your local parts store, they should have a loaner tool that you can use. Quote
Dodgeb4ya Posted December 23, 2019 Report Posted December 23, 2019 1 hour ago, CO54 said: So, I love my family. My brother-in-law had the correct 1-11/16 socket to pull the crankshaft nut. What's the best way to pull the pulley? Please advise. This is how it looks pulling the pulley with 2 bolt holes... 1 1 Quote
Merle Coggins Posted December 23, 2019 Report Posted December 23, 2019 Yup, either a small H-bar puller as shown, or a harmonic balancer puller will work. Just a word of caution... Don’t thread your attachment bolts in too far. It’s rather easy to screw them back against the front cover and add a couple of extra dimples. It may just damage the seal, but could also do damage to the cover. 2 Quote
CO54 Posted December 23, 2019 Author Report Posted December 23, 2019 Had to work a short day today, came home started digging through the tool box and found a steering wheel puller with the correct bolts. The attachment bolt holes on my pulley didn't go all the way through for some reason. Was able to get the pulley off, and then the timing cover. (mental note of the reversed bolt/nut on the bottom by oil pan) Here are a couple pics of the timing set as it sits. Gotta dig into my B4 manual and see what it says about timing chain deflection limits. I also need to find the timing marks on the sprockets, shouldn't be too hard after getting things cleaned up. As things get pulled out, I planned on soaking them in kerosene to break up the burnt oil and grime, guessing minor scrubbing will probably be involved. Anything to beware of with this? Thanks. Eric 1 Quote
bkahler Posted December 24, 2019 Report Posted December 24, 2019 Other than taking big stuff to the local hot water high pressure car wash, kereose is pretty much all I've ever used for parts cleaning. 1 1 Quote
CO54 Posted December 28, 2019 Author Report Posted December 28, 2019 Still waiting on engine tools to arrive. Weather hasn't been good enough to finish pulling Xmas decorations off the roof, so I decided to gut the cab interior. Managed to put a few tenths of a mile on the speedometer when I wanted to verify operation. Wifey wasn't too thrilled, OOPS. Regardless, I'm gonna start pulling door guts tomorrow, and setting clamps on the pins for removal. Yes, I'm still fighting with the darn steering wheel, and a puller has been located, just not arrived yet. Yes that's a "54 gas tank that's gonna need replacement too. 1 Quote
JBNeal Posted December 28, 2019 Report Posted December 28, 2019 what's wrong with the gas tank? I had one with a hole the size of a pie plate in the top, sent if off to get Renu'd and it hasn't leaked a drop in 20+ years... Quote
Tooljunkie Posted December 28, 2019 Report Posted December 28, 2019 19 minutes ago, CO54 said: Still waiting on engine tools to arrive. Weather hasn't been good enough to finish pulling Xmas decorations off the roof, so I decided to gut the cab interior. Managed to put a few tenths of a mile on the speedometer when I wanted to verify operation. Wifey wasn't too thrilled, OOPS. Regardless, I'm gonna start pulling door guts tomorrow, and setting clamps on the pins for removal. Yes, I'm still fighting with the darn steering wheel, and a puller has been located, just not arrived yet. Yes that's a "54 gas tank that's gonna need replacement too. I left nut threaded well on to shaft. stacked up some nuts in the deep socket to fill the space. Pulled wire up through nuts so i wouldnt damage it and whacked on socket a few times while supporting wheel. Popped right off. Quote
CO54 Posted December 28, 2019 Author Report Posted December 28, 2019 4 minutes ago, Tooljunkie said: I left nut threaded well on to shaft. stacked up some nuts in the deep socket to fill the space. Pulled wire up through nuts so i wouldnt damage it and whacked on socket a few times while supporting wheel. Popped right off. I sprayed it down for 2 weeks, fab'd a 2x4 puller with ratchet straps and the hammer. Still had no luck. I figure, I'll buy the tool, and share with other members for the price of shipping when it's needed. Quote
CO54 Posted December 28, 2019 Author Report Posted December 28, 2019 (edited) 29 minutes ago, JBNeal said: what's wrong with the gas tank? I had one with a hole the size of a pie plate in the top, sent if off to get Renu'd and it hasn't leaked a drop in 20+ years... JBNeal, Front and rear ends rotted out, plus the bottom has TOO many pinholes to count........ If you don't mind me asking, what was the cost for repairs with "Renu'd"? I'd prefer to keep the original tank, but it's about my abilities, and I gotta keep a budget....... Edited December 28, 2019 by CO54 typo Quote
JBNeal Posted December 28, 2019 Report Posted December 28, 2019 the damage in the pictures is less than what I had and them guys were able to patch it up no problem...since the hole was over the pickup tube, I was able to give it a good inspection and they knew how to deal with that too...as far as cost, I think it was $300 back in '96, which fixed my original tank as the only options back then were other tanks with pinholes at the perimeter seam or make something else fit. Tanks Inc. has a tank that is close in size, but I do not believe it is coated so it could be prone to corrosion, plus brackets have to be fabricated for proper installation. At a minimum, get in contact with Renu and Tanks Inc. to get some estimates from them and you could make a more informed decision...I am glad I spent some serious $$$ on the tank, brakes, distributor, etc. years ago, because I was able to get quality that has lasted going on 2+ decades, and if I spread the upfront cost over that kind of timeframe, I ultimately saved a bundle from not having to do the same repair multiple times. At any rate, you've got plenty of work to get to before the tank becomes an issue to deal with...I sent mine off early in the restore cuz I was still in college at the time, I recall sending it off on a trip home for Spring Break, and got it back by Memorial Day 1 Quote
CO54 Posted December 28, 2019 Author Report Posted December 28, 2019 10 minutes ago, JBNeal said: the damage in the pictures is less than what I had and them guys were able to patch it up no problem...since the hole was over the pickup tube, I was able to give it a good inspection and they knew how to deal with that too...as far as cost, I think it was $300 back in '96, which fixed my original tank as the only options back then were other tanks with pinholes at the perimeter seam or make something else fit. Tanks Inc. has a tank that is close in size, but I do not believe it is coated so it could be prone to corrosion, plus brackets have to be fabricated for proper installation. At a minimum, get in contact with Renu and Tanks Inc. to get some estimates from them and you could make a more informed decision...I am glad I spent some serious $$$ on the tank, brakes, distributor, etc. years ago, because I was able to get quality that has lasted going on 2+ decades, and if I spread the upfront cost over that kind of timeframe, I ultimately saved a bundle from not having to do the same repair multiple times. At any rate, you've got plenty of work to get to before the tank becomes an issue to deal with...I sent mine off early in the restore cuz I was still in college at the time, I recall sending it off on a trip home for Spring Break, and got it back by Memorial Day I've been in contact with Tanks Inc. They have pics and measurements, they are looking into options after the holidays. If I have to fab brackets and use other options moving forward I can. I plan on spending the $$$ in same areas, just wanna know it's right. The tank repair for me right now is an option just not one that was expected with everything else going on. I'v already learned that my wife and I decided to take a chance on an "expensive" breed of old truck to resto-mod and enjoy. That's the goal, so we wanna do it right, even if it costs more upfront. Thanks for all the insight, and this forum. Eric Quote
bkahler Posted December 28, 2019 Report Posted December 28, 2019 2 hours ago, CO54 said: Don't get to concerned about your dash knobs..... Post edited by moderator: Please keep offers of parts to PM and off the forum please. Quote
bkahler Posted December 29, 2019 Report Posted December 29, 2019 7 minutes ago, CO54 said: I've been in contact with Tanks Inc. They have pics and measurements, they are looking into options after the holidays. If I have to fab brackets and use other options moving forward I can. I plan on spending the $$$ in same areas, just wanna know it's right. The tank repair for me right now is an option just not one that was expected with everything else going on. I'v already learned that my wife and I decided to take a chance on an "expensive" breed of old truck to resto-mod and enjoy. That's the goal, so we wanna do it right, even if it costs more upfront. Thanks for all the insight, and this forum. Eric Spending big bucks on a gas tank renovation may seem difficult to swallow but it's probably one of the better investments you can make in your truck. Especially if you're trying to keep it somewhat stock. I got really lucky in that my gas tank was almost spotless inside. I still had the local radiator shop dip it and then they sealed the inside with a special liquid used for sealing gas tanks. I used Gas Tank Renu on a tank for one of my projects and it came out really nice. Yeah, it was pricey but not deal with making something fit made it easier to stomach Brad 1 Quote
CO54 Posted December 29, 2019 Author Report Posted December 29, 2019 3 minutes ago, bkahler said: Don't get to concerned about your dash knobs.....I've got several of each type in a box somewhere. Wifey if looking forward to cleaning em and finding a way to restore/reuse all the original parts as we can..... She's a "stay at home" and loves to figure odd puzzles out, like this..However we'll see how it all shakes out. Quote
bkahler Posted December 29, 2019 Report Posted December 29, 2019 Just now, CO54 said: Wifey if looking forward to cleaning em and finding a way to restore/reuse all the original parts as we can..... She's a "stay at home" and loves to figure odd puzzles out, like this..However we'll see how it all shakes out. The bakelite is the easy part. There's not much you can do for that pitted chrome. Oh yeah, you should have something in your mailbox Monday..... 1 Quote
CO54 Posted December 29, 2019 Author Report Posted December 29, 2019 Got all the existing glass pulled today. HD, it is tomorrow for a few things to include some 6" C-clamps for the door pins. 3" doesn't cut it. Found more issues that had been learned by a Radar when it comes to the roof and drip rail. Items to be taken care of as things move along. Quote
Radarsonwheels Posted December 30, 2019 Report Posted December 30, 2019 Nice! Sorry to be the one to show you what evil could lurk inside that gutter. Really sorry ? 1 Quote
CO54 Posted December 30, 2019 Author Report Posted December 30, 2019 15 hours ago, Radarsonwheels said: Nice! Sorry to be the one to show you what evil could lurk inside that gutter. Really sorry ? Glad you did. Now I know what to look for.... 1 Quote
bkahler Posted December 30, 2019 Report Posted December 30, 2019 1 hour ago, CO54 said: Glad you did. Now I know what to look for.... Here's hoping you don't find what Radar found...... Quote
bkahler Posted January 4, 2020 Report Posted January 4, 2020 I thought you might get a kick out of this on ebay 1 Quote
CO54 Posted January 19, 2020 Author Report Posted January 19, 2020 Semi productive day with the Sunny and 48 here in CO. Helped a buddy work on his '95 Yota 4-runner, got the wife's punching bag hung up so she can beat it up. Then I pulled out the new pressure washer and tried it out on the oil pan that's soaked in water, dish soap, and degreaser for a week. Impressed with the outcome. Also sprayed down the cab interior with everything removed. Sorry no pic of the cab. All is good, gonna try out the new welder tomorrow, possibly tear into engine, as far as possible till the spring compressor arrives. Any input on timing chain play I posted previously? Quote
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