Flathead 6 for 1933 Dodge to drive Peking to Paris

[chrysler1941]

I have a link to a 1948 Chrysler 8, in Sweden, but probably too long for your use. But enough power.

Edited December 11, 2017 by chrysler1941

[55 Fargo]

Whats the Status if this endeavour.

Any updates on engine build etc?

[Andydodge]

Yeh, I'd be interested in how things are going............andyd

[pflaming]

Paris, Maine to Peking (Delight), San Francisco, CA is 3,234 miles! Google Map! Two mountain ranges, one long arid, salty highland, miles of rolling grassland, and dense woods on the drive. A flat head should handle that! LOL 

[knuckleharley]

10 minutes ago, pflaming said:

Paris, Maine to Peking (Delight), San Francisco, CA is 3,234 miles! Google Map! Two mountain ranges, one long arid, salty highland, miles of rolling grassland, and dense woods on the drive. A flat head should handle that! LOL 

Flatheads were DESIGNED to handle that sort of thing. It's modern cars that need smooth,paved roads.

[Plymouthy Adams]

with the majority of vehicles having 4 wheel independent suspension and all the traction controls that monitor and regulate while you bob your head to the latest tunes...you be amazed at the overall ability to traverse rough load compared to the front and rear fixed axles of the older cars....

[knuckleharley]

49 minutes ago, Plymouthy Adams said:

with the majority of vehicles having 4 wheel independent suspension and all the traction controls that monitor and regulate while you bob your head to the latest tunes...you be amazed at the overall ability to traverse rough load compared to the front and rear fixed axles of the older cars....

Yeah,but let one break down alongside the road and see how much luck you have fixing it.

[Plymouthy Adams]

parts are parts and the ability to find for a newer model may be a bit easier than the ability to find "useable" bolt on for the older car, if you find the older car part how much rework to make it useable.......it is a coin toss either way on availability.   Lets take a recent truck for one example....2005 Dodge 2WD front suspension....the below is an 8 piece kit...price less than 75.00 delivered.....

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/8PCS-Front-Suspension-Kit-Control-arm-Tie-Rod-End-Ball-Joint-for-Dodge-Ram-1500/123357608283?fits=Year%3A2005|Make%3ADodge&epid=26021738418&hash=item1cb8afb95b:g:MPEAAOSwMudbkwDb

 

now lust for giggles price just the king pin set for one of our older Dodge trucks....

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Moog-8454B-King-Pin-Set-for-Dodge-Truck-1948-1955/232918982226?epid=75448548&hash=item363b0d9e52:g:qK4AAOSwYgFaseq2

 

at this point with the shipping, you have now busted the greater than 75.00..

 

This pricing and availability hold true on many many common parts that are normal wear items.  Water pump. oil pump, 3 gears, three chains, the oil pressure operated tensioners,  guides, gasket and even the water pump and oil pump, you there, make it new......105.00 delivered

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/TIMING-CHAIN-KIT-WATER-PUMP-OIL-PUMP-w-GEARS-99-04-DODGE-JEEP-4-7L-SOHC-JTEC/231029614067?hash=item35ca7025f3:g:0AgAAOxyTMhSAtPP

 

 

for the 1948 dodge truck just the oil pump is: approx. 153.00 delivered

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Engine-Oil-Pump-SEALED-POWER-224-4160/292715037198?fits=Year%3A1948|Make%3ADodge&epid=75604744&hash=item44272d020e:g:dr8AAOSwBXhbISqZ

 

while some may yell apples and oranges, well this was the very gist of the later part of the conversation....old verse new in cost and availability....

 

 

Edited September 10, 2018 by Plymouthy Adams

[55 Fargo]

Wonderful side trip guys, but do either of you have any idea what happened to this project and proposed road trip?

Montana Dodge Boyz were to build the engine, what happened in this case.

Did the 230 engine ever get built?

Be interesting to find out where this eventually went....

[Plymouthy Adams]

I would think in the near future the Montana Boys may post an update but they just recently off the salt flats...not sure if they have hydrated yet...

[55 Fargo]

38 minutes ago, Plymouthy Adams said:

I would think in the near future the Montana Boys may post an update but they just recently off the salt flats...not sure if they have hydrated yet...

We are just getting hydrated in these parts.

Extremely dry hot summer.

Sweet Corn 7 ft tall but cobs not fully developed on a lot of the stalks.

Tomatoes huge plants smaller tomatoes.

[greg g]

For the engine

 

https://m.facebook.com/thefreewheelingtonysmith/?hc_ref=ARTAr4lGS5facvTQEAKcJwznTtjlmwSwo5_OfvzUBmVy4Np6CzDy1QDAVIlobtTBwY4&fref=nf

 

Haven't seen any thing about the chassis body.  

 

 

[Patrick De]

Hi all,

sorry we were gone!

 

Like Greg G wrote, our engine build is online. The chassis job is not (it's a race...). But the work on the body, the assembling, and other information is on:

 

https://www.facebook.com/BelgianDodgeBrothers

 

 

[Patrick De]

On 9/10/2018 at 3:14 PM, knuckleharley said:

Flatheads were DESIGNED to handle that sort of thing. It's modern cars that need smooth,paved roads.

I fully agree! That's why our choice

[Patrick De]

Anyone wit experience in low pressurizing the cooling system?

Have read this post from a guy:

"Always had trouble with radiator sealing and overflowing onto bonnet ... Sealed the inside of the neck to allow normal fitting of mascot and filler neck added to inside of engine bay as on 35 Plymouths ... low pressure cap { 4 lb.} and overflow tank . Been thinking of doing that for years, so had it done while the radiator was out"

[Plymouthy Adams]

In a couple of build I have but not related solely to non pressurized....but the inline remote pressure cap fixture is a definite godsend to allow easy service in areas where the access to the radiator normal cap position is limited.   I have a few English cars that use similar methods...usually a fixed non relieving cap on the radiator and the pressure relieving cap/overflow tube on a remote reservoir and or aptly named expansion tank and with the inline filler and vent where ever it suits the build for access.    What you are referring to was basically what was done with the first pressurized systems years ago....just as stated a very low pressure of 4lbs.  Adapt a modern fill neck and put a patch over the vented puke hole on the top reservoir.

 

another note is many folks overfilled the non pressurized systems so that every time after service, they would burp...these normally are when cool a few inches below the neck and the upper tank is basically an expansion area for when it comes to temp...

[greg g]

I don't know if you remember Partick's posts here regarding to preparing a 33 Dodge Australian bodied roadster for the Picking to Paris motoring adventure.  They distinguished themselves well.  Finishing fourth overall in vintage class and first in vintage class C.  They were bested by 2 Bentlys and a Chrysler all in class B.  So 2 of Walter P's nearly at the top of the head. 

 

You can check their scores an results on the HERO Peking to Paris web site our on their Belgian Dodge Brother's Facebook page.  

 

Congrats to Patrick, Bernard and Polly the 33 Dodge Roadster.

[leadheavy52]

1 hour ago, greg g said:

I don't know if you remember Partick's posts here regarding to preparing a 33 Dodge Australian bodied roadster for the Picking to Paris motoring adventure.  They distinguished themselves well.  Finishing fourth overall in vintage class and first in vintage class C.  They were bested by 2 Bentlys and a Chrysler all in class B.  So 2 of Walter P's nearly at the top of the head. 

 

You can check their scores an results on the HERO Peking to Paris web site our on their Belgian Dodge Brother's Facebook page.  

 

Congrats to Patrick, Bernard and Polly the 33 Dodge Roadster.

I followed their race from start to finish and they made a heck of a showing. I can say that with the exception of the more-developed areas, none of their trek looked easy. I am glad to see that their choice of Chrysler 6's famous reliability showed out. After watching their adventure, it has my boys and I curious about someday building our own P to P racer and attempting the long and oft difficult feat of simply finishing this endurance race. 

 

-Austin

[greg g]

The same organizers are putting an event in the US in 2021, read it will be mostly west coast oriented.  They are an expensive proposition for both car prep and registration aspects. But overnight, most meals and some mechanical assistance for breakdowns. Information at HERO.com   

Historic Endurance Rally Org.