Paul Hatfield Posted December 20, 2016 Report Posted December 20, 2016 A while back I purchased an NOS water valve for my truck. I posted a photo of it in the topic "Fun With NOS Parts". However, I learned there were two different styles of water valves, and I got the opportunity to purchase the Y shaped one and jumped on it. Having received the part, I disassembled and cleaned the parts. Photos shown. Problem is that the vane that rotates inside the body is missing!!! I feel I can make a suitable one, but wondered if anyone has a photo of this part?? My guess is that it is a brass vane that fits over the stem and rotates to cover a port to shut off flow. Quote
Young Ed Posted December 21, 2016 Report Posted December 21, 2016 see this thread in the technical section. Quote
Paul Hatfield Posted December 21, 2016 Author Report Posted December 21, 2016 Thanks for the link Ed. I want to successfully rebuild mine. I am missing the "bow tie" piece and also the small fitting that holds the cable to the valve. If anyone has these parts, please contact me. In regards to the seal around the shaft. It appears to be a pressed in seal. If mine is failed, I intend on removing any pressing a new one. Just need to source one after taking careful measurements. Quote
David A. Posted December 22, 2016 Report Posted December 22, 2016 Here is the SKF seal that my original seal cross referenced to. Along with the pieces you said you were missing. Maybe the picture will help you make the pieces you need. Hope this helps. Quote
Paul Hatfield Posted December 22, 2016 Author Report Posted December 22, 2016 So it is an SKF seal number 3101- correct? I am also missing that spring. Shouldn't be hard to find, but can you tell me the relaxed height? I can guess the diameter ok as needs to fit in the recess of the casting. Thanks for the great info.! Paul Quote
David A. Posted December 22, 2016 Report Posted December 22, 2016 Yes, SKF 3101. The spring is 3/4" high relaxed, and 5/8" diameter. The dog bone shaped phenolic that rides between the metal dog bone and the inlet and outlet ports is 1/16" thick. Quote
ggdad1951 Posted December 23, 2016 Report Posted December 23, 2016 do any of these help? http://s1178.photobucket.com/user/ggdad1951/library/heater control valve fresh air option?sort=6&page=1 David, is that rebuild kit still available? does it have the valve stem packing? Quote
Paul Hatfield Posted December 27, 2016 Author Report Posted December 27, 2016 I don't think there is any valve stem "packing". The seal around the stem is accomplished with a pressed in seal. That seal is shown above- SKF 3101 is the replacement seal which does not have the same appearance as the metal housing on the original, but once the original seal is removed, it is pressed into the recess in the casting. I have not performed this repair- yet, but that's my take on it. Quote
Dodgeb4ya Posted December 27, 2016 Report Posted December 27, 2016 I think the original seal was a packing under the pressed in "Garlock" steel cup cover. Quote
Dodgeb4ya Posted December 27, 2016 Report Posted December 27, 2016 There was also an earlier cast iron dual heater control valve that used a scew in packing gland nut to tighten up a leaking packing.. Quote
Paul Hatfield Posted December 27, 2016 Author Report Posted December 27, 2016 Better view of this portion of the valve. Quote
ggdad1951 Posted December 27, 2016 Report Posted December 27, 2016 I'm curious to see how your rebuild goes...the one I've torn apart doesn't turn easy...that seal/packing will be critical Quote
ggdad1951 Posted April 12, 2023 Report Posted April 12, 2023 Bringing this old thread back....seems these have been re-popped by MoParPro! I couldn't find them on their website yet, but a call might be in order if ytou are looking for one. 1 Quote
Dodgeb4ya Posted April 12, 2023 Report Posted April 12, 2023 I will guess the Mikey price....$569.00 And it won't work right..or it will leak. Quote
ggdad1951 Posted April 12, 2023 Report Posted April 12, 2023 Well I paid over $450 for a NOS one about 8 years ago...so with inflation and such, mid 500's might be about right. Quote
bkahler Posted April 12, 2023 Report Posted April 12, 2023 1 hour ago, ggdad1951 said: Well I paid over $450 for a NOS one about 8 years ago...so with inflation and such, mid 500's might be about right. Wow I got my NOS brass valve from Mitchell Motors back in 2007 for $62 and I was mad about paying that much! 1 Quote
ggdad1951 Posted April 13, 2023 Report Posted April 13, 2023 16 hours ago, bkahler said: Wow I got my NOS brass valve from Mitchell Motors back in 2007 for $62 and I was mad about paying that much! When its about a restoration vs. a driver....things can get spendy... Quote
billrigsby Posted April 13, 2023 Report Posted April 13, 2023 (edited) Guess again, 1946 1947 1948 NOS Chrysler Dual Water Heater control valve-* very rare! try $800, but hey, it does have FREE Shipping! Edited April 13, 2023 by billrigsby 1 Quote
Young Ed Posted April 13, 2023 Report Posted April 13, 2023 3 minutes ago, billrigsby said: Guess again, 1946 1947 1948 NOS Chrysler Dual Water Heater control valve-* very rare! try $800, but hey, it does have FREE Shipping! That's an original not one of the new reproductions Quote
billrigsby Posted April 13, 2023 Report Posted April 13, 2023 21 hours ago, ggdad1951 said: Well I paid over $450 for a NOS one about 8 years ago...so with inflation and such, mid 500's might be about right. 2 minutes ago, Young Ed said: That's an original not one of the new reproductions Yes, was supposed to quote @ggdad1951, but that did not work! Quote
John-T-53 Posted April 13, 2023 Report Posted April 13, 2023 (edited) I haven't heard of Mopar PRO, what's up with them? As for the NOS valve on fee bay, for F sake is all I can say... Edited April 13, 2023 by John-T-53 1 Quote
Dodgeb4ya Posted April 13, 2023 Report Posted April 13, 2023 8 minutes ago, John-T-53 said: I haven't heard of Mopar PRO, what's up with them? As for the NOS valve on fee bay, for F sake is all I can say... Them is a he and helper. Quote
John-T-53 Posted April 13, 2023 Report Posted April 13, 2023 I looked up their site, they are located in the same city in NY that the overpriced ebay NOS valve is shipping from. Hmmm, I wonder...? Quote
bkahler Posted April 13, 2023 Report Posted April 13, 2023 4 hours ago, ggdad1951 said: When its about a restoration vs. a driver....things can get spendy... Yeah, I've gone down that road a few times myself Quote
Dodgeb4ya Posted April 13, 2023 Report Posted April 13, 2023 Think it's better to go to the swap meets, garage and estate sales, craigslist and others to get way better deals. Otherwise full retail plus plus now days buying from the known MoPar old parts dealers. Quote
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