rubber parts

[stan's52]

There are several companies selling molding rubber parts. Is it possible each company

makes tooling to make the parts, or one company is making all the rubber molded parts?

Then sells to other companies? On some rubber parts there is a lot of difference on

pricing. An example is the wind wing rubber in the front door. Shopping around I found a lot of

difference. I like to same money like the rest of you, but don't want to end up with something that don't fit correct. Stan

[Plymouthy Adams]

I know for certain that one of the companies supplying rubber extrudes his from his own molds..he made a specific mold for one certain piece of rubber per my supplied sample..

[knuckleharley]

I know for certain that one of the companies supplying rubber extrudes his from his own molds..he made a specific mold for one certain piece of rubber per my supplied sample..

Which company would that be? I will be spending a lot of money on rubber in the next couple of months,and I hate spending money twice . I'm pretty anal about things are either right or they are wrong,so this is a big deal for me.

[Bingster]

Big deal to me, too!

[JD luxury liner]

I like to use Metro molded rubber parts. Look on their website for pt#s, then I go to Rockauto for a better price. I don't like their windshield rubber because it is not a molded single piece. 

JD

[Eneto-55]

On 3/5/2016 at 11:19 AM, Plymouthy Adams said:

I know for certain that one of the companies supplying rubber extrudes his from his own molds..he made a specific mold for one certain piece of rubber per my supplied sample..

On 3/5/2016 at 12:53 PM, knuckleharley said:

Which company would that be? I will be spending a lot of money on rubber in the next couple of months,and I hate spending money twice . I'm pretty anal about things are either right or they are wrong,so this is a big deal for me.

 

Was there ever a response to this question, perhaps by PM?

[knuckleharley]

43 minutes ago, Eneto-55 said:

 

 

If there was,it was lost in the ozone.

[Eneto-55]

Steering Column Boot (bottom & top)  I checked on Roberts, and didn't find it listed or shown.  As you can see, this one has been repaired in the past, where it was cracked or torn.  (Possibly I repaired it when I took it off of the car in the early 80's.)  It's in fair shape otherwise, but it is also torn a bit where the steering column goes through, & I don't think the silicone rubber patch will hold long term.  (And it would be a bit of work to change this later.)

[Eneto-55]

Here is a rubber part that I don't know where it goes, although I think it is a firewall grommet.  (It isn't the one where the wire harness goes through - that one has a larger hole.)

 

I should have set a ruler beside it for perspective, but it is 2 1/2" x 1 1/2" x 3/8" thick.

 

[Andydodge]

Thats a firewall grommet, it was used on my 1940 Dodge although I smoothed the firewall when i hotrodded the car 40 yrs ago, but am pretty sure that the water gauge and oil pressure gauge lines at least went thru this grommet..here in Oz possibly the choke and throttle cables also used this grommet.......think its shown in Bernbaums cattledog .......andyd 

Edited July 4, 2018 by Andydodge

[Eneto-55]

8 hours ago, Andydodge said:

Thats a firewall grommet, it was used on my 1940 Dodge although I smoothed the firewall when i hotrodded the car 40 yrs ago, but am pretty sure that the water gauge and oil pressure gauge lines at least went thru this grommet..here in Oz possibly the choke and throttle cables also used this grommet.......think its shown in Bernbaums cattledog .......andyd 

OK, thanks.  I see that hole now.  Speedometer cable too, possibly?  It's just inside the recessed area of the fire wall (on left side here in the US - same there?).  (I hadn't seen it because it being set back in that area.  It is almost 40 years since I painted the firewall, so didn't remember this hole, but once you said what went through it, I easily found it.  So I'm missing the bracket that clamps this rubber grommet to the firewall.  Have to look back through the boxes of parts...)

[DrDoctor]

   I’ve used Steele Rubber Products items on several car projects, and have no complaints about them, except that they’re abit pricey. I’ve also used rubber items from Mac’s Antique Auto Parts (an Eckler’s company), and also Danchuck’s. Both of those companies have reasonable prices (Mac’s caters to pre- and post-war Fords, and Danchuck’s caters to the tri-five Chevrolets), but since neither of them is Plymouth oriented, be certain what you order is workable for your purpose (but, if it isn’t—it’s returnable . . .).

   The rubber on out ’46 Plymouth is in relatively decent shape. Interior and trunk have carpet—no rubber matting. The door sills are thick aluminum (satin finish), that I now think someone fabricated, so no rubber there, either. As such, I have no first-hand experience with any of the companies often referred to herein.

   I’ve repaired certain hard-to-find rubber parts with a product called “Liquid Rubber” with good results—strong bond, and long lasting. If you want the repair shiny, just smear a final coat over the repair with your finger, blending it in. if you want a dull finish, once it’s dried/cured, use some 4-0 steel wool—that did the trick for me.

   Regards . . . .

Edited July 4, 2018 by DrDoctor

[desoto1939]

Did you notice that on the bottom lip of you rubber cover plate this same unit was also produced in Brown and there isa mopar number stamped on the base of the edge.  I am assuming that this is an original rubber gasket around the steering column at the base of the floor board.  Might also want to check with steele rubber. They are not cheap but have good quality rubber parts.

 

Rich hartung

desoto1939@aol.com 

[BobT-47P15]

I have a windshield gasket and cowl vent gasket from Steele......neither cheap but worked OK.   

Dave Kruse in California makes several small rubber parts for a P15.....i have his hood bumpers, a gas tank filler

neck grommet and another thing or two.....they have been good.  His phone is 909-239-7932 and his email is

krusn64@aol.com.    He does have an item/price list on request.

 

I bought door sill rubber from Innovative Design Associates, Inc  4515 Kirkcaldy Rd, Bloomfield Hills, MI 48304  Phone

is (248) 646-0158,  email is  djyaz@yahoo.com   Diran Yazejian is the man with whom I dealt.  Their step plates are

accurate in appearance, but are smooth on the bottom and you have to glue them down.  Not cheap but nice.  I think someone 

else makes a plate with metal on the bottom - maybe some studs....but can not currently find anything from them.  

 

I have a 2014 price/item list from Dave Kruse that I can email if someone wants it.  you can email to me at:

bmatoft@mediacombb.net 

Edited July 4, 2018 by BobT-47P15

[Eneto-55]

Thank you DeSoto139 & BobT.

 

Yes, I did see the word 'brown' on the bottom of my piece, but hadn't read the rest of it, and thought maybe they considered this piece to be brown, although it sure looks black to me.  I see now that both numbers are on it.  As far as I know this is an original one.  It was on the car when I bought it in 1980, although the car was already partly dismantled, and the body may have already been off of the frame.  (It was loose, anyway.) I did look at Berbaum, and they have it in both colors.  I suspect that there is a steel piece molded inside this, but nothing shows on the outside.  I wonder if anyone on here has one that was so deteriorated that they could describe how the steel piece is shaped.  I guess one could ask these re-manufacturers if there was some steel support in the original, and if their reproduction also has it.  As far as pricing goes, I don't know what is reasonable, but I can say one thing for sure - there sure are a LOT more reproduction parts available now than there were back in 1980, when I started on this car.

 

Like the door sill plates.  Back then my idea was to just made do with the old ones, or make something out of a rubber mat.  (I never thought of making a metal plate, as some here have done.)  I didn't even put all of the holes back in when I repaired the sheet metal, although I did put in the recessed areas where the holes would be.  Back then I was just building it as a daily driver (and then got carried away with one thing leading to another, till I really had it all in pieces), but now that would be different, especially living here in the Ohio 'salt belt'.

 

ADDED: I just thought to check with a magnet, and there IS steel inside the steering column piece, both in the base, and in the top flat area.

 

Edited July 4, 2018 by Eneto-55
added note

[Eneto-55]

Here's another mystery (to me) rubber part.  I have looked in the parts book, and also looked at a couple of rubber parts manufacturers, and I can't figure out where this goes, or if it is even from a P15.  (We had various MoPars in our shop at one time or another, so other possible vehicles would be 41 Chrysler, 46 DeSoto, 49 DeSoto, 51 Dodge. (Or maybe even some other make, although we've not had many in there.)  There is a part number (I'm guessing) on the other side: 2-BF-9-CODB-17808-C.  I would say that it is some sort of dust shield.  The rubber is formed with a groove in the area where the clips fasten it over the edge of sheet metal.

 

[Plymouthy Adams]

that would be a Ford part per the parts code......

[Eneto-55]

2 hours ago, Plymouthy Adams said:

that would be a Ford part per the parts code......

Yes, I also came up with a partial match for Ford, but I couldn't identify what it is, because nothing sounded like what this is.  Could it be a 60 Ford Falcon part (I did strip some parts off of one that I swapped an engine out of for a friend), or maybe something like 55 Ford (my grandpa had one, then he wrecked)?  The best I could guess it is a shield that goes over the upper control arms, affixed to the inner fender panel.

[JerseyHarold]

If I recall correctly, the 'C0' in the part number denotes 1960 as the model year.

[classiccarjack]

On 7/4/2018 at 9:06 AM, DrDoctor said:

   I’ve used Steele Rubber Products items on several car projects, and have no complaints about them, except that they’re abit pricey. I’ve also used rubber items from Mac’s Antique Auto Parts (an Eckler’s company), and also Danchuck’s. Both of those companies have reasonable prices (Mac’s caters to pre- and post-war Fords, and Danchuck’s caters to the tri-five Chevrolets), but since neither of them is Plymouth oriented, be certain what you order is workable for your purpose (but, if it isn’t—it’s returnable . . .).

   The rubber on out ’46 Plymouth is in relatively decent shape. Interior and trunk have carpet—no rubber matting. The door sills are thick aluminum (satin finish), that I now think someone fabricated, so no rubber there, either. As such, I have no first-hand experience with any of the companies often referred to herein.

   I’ve repaired certain hard-to-find rubber parts with a product called “Liquid Rubber” with good results—strong bond, and long lasting. If you want the repair shiny, just smear a final coat over the repair with your finger, blending it in. if you want a dull finish, once it’s dried/cured, use some 4-0 steel wool—that did the trick for me.

   Regards . . . .

Steele Rubber Products is definitely one of the best that I have used.  Everyone else doesn't have the same quality, or is too soft and bunches up on the glass, or is too hard and defective, just doesn't fit right....  Some guys make their own molds, and do a great job too.  One example is Steve from DCM, but he specializes in trucks.

 

@Stans52 Please let us know which products worked out well for you.  So it helps a lot of guys like you that are in the same boat.

Edited September 4, 2018 by classiccarjack
Added last paragraph