larryconnors Posted December 19, 2014 Report Posted December 19, 2014 It's December here in New England and the P15 is all snuggled up warm in it's bay in the garage. I'm thinking about some 300 or 400 mile trips I'd like to make next year and I'm thinking about the original fuel pump I'm using with ethanol gas. I think I should at least carry a spare for when the ethanol eats up the diaphram. What do you folks do? What other spares and tools etc. do you carry for a semi long road trip? Quote
1941Rick Posted December 19, 2014 Report Posted December 19, 2014 How much Ethanol are you using? Quote
TodFitch Posted December 19, 2014 Report Posted December 19, 2014 I generally take hand tools, AAA card, credit card and a cell phone. If I suspect something like a fuel pump won't last for 500 miles then I fix it before I leave. Same thing for any of the other myriad other parts that people seem to want to take along "just in case". I do have a few spare bulbs in a small box in the glove compartment as they don't take much space and I really can't predict if/when a light will burn out. Quote
fstfish66 Posted December 19, 2014 Report Posted December 19, 2014 joe gibbs racing has a gas attitive that is suppost to coat all the fuel componets,,,and keep batteling the ethonal and water in todays gas in cars not drivin every day,,, you can get it at some parts stores or jegs. and free shipping,,, its pricey by the case 60 bucks for 6 bottles,,,, Quote
desoto1939 Posted December 19, 2014 Report Posted December 19, 2014 If I were you I would also pump on an electric fuel pump near the gas tank as a backup. This way you can still get to a repair shop to tank out the mechnaical pump if it goes bad on the trip. Also have a spare gas line that goes from the fuel line connector in the engine bay to the fuel pump and also a spare rubber oil line. Rich Hartung Quote
larryconnors Posted December 19, 2014 Author Report Posted December 19, 2014 The gas sold in Ma has 10% ethanol. Quote
busycoupe Posted December 20, 2014 Report Posted December 20, 2014 You can get your pump rebuilt by "Then and Now Automotive" in Weymouth, Ma. They also go by the name Antique Auto Cellar. A few years ago they sold rebuild kits and I rebuilt my pump with their kit that has ethanol proof diaphragm and parts. I am not sur,e if they still sell the kits, but I think they still rebuild the pumps. Quote
meadowbrook Posted December 20, 2014 Report Posted December 20, 2014 Is ethanol in today's gas really that bad? I have owned a 1965 VW since 1997 and my 50 dodge for some 6 years now and have never had a fuel issue. Could it be the parts I use are ethanol resistant? Quote
grady hawkins Posted December 20, 2014 Report Posted December 20, 2014 I usually carry a spare generator and voltage regulator along with a carb and points and condenser and rotor. I have a electric fuel pump but use it mostly for cold starts A spare inner tube since I still have original tube type tires and a hydraulic jack Quote
TodFitch Posted December 20, 2014 Report Posted December 20, 2014 Is ethanol in today's gas really that bad? I have owned a 1965 VW since 1997 and my 50 dodge for some 6 years now and have never had a fuel issue. Could it be the parts I use are ethanol resistant? There is a reasonably good chance that your fuel system parts have been renewed in the last 20 or 30 years. And if so, then they likely have materials that are resistant to modern gas additives. Quote
fstfish66 Posted December 26, 2014 Report Posted December 26, 2014 all the junk in todays gas is a big problem,,the water in the gas eats the bottom or pitts the botttom of aluminum carb bowls,,,and eats at older gas tanks,,the tank in my 40 is original,,and is now rusting from the inside out,,, lots of junk in the new electric fuel pump,,and i just went thru the carb,,, this comming week ill be removing the origianal tank and try to decide what to replace it with ???? a new steel tank that will rust how soon ?? a aluminum coated tank ?? or a poly tank if i find one that will fit with out a ton of mods to my car,,, Quote
1952B3b23 Posted December 26, 2014 Report Posted December 26, 2014 all the junk in todays gas is a big problem,,the water in the gas eats the bottom or pitts the botttom of aluminum carb bowls,,,and eats at older gas tanks,,the tank in my 40 is original,,and is now rusting from the inside out,,, lots of junk in the new electric fuel pump,,and i just went thru the carb,,, this comming week ill be removing the origianal tank and try to decide what to replace it with ???? a new steel tank that will rust how soon ?? a aluminum coated tank ?? or a poly tank if i find one that will fit with out a ton of mods to my car,,, This place here: http://www.tanksinc.com/index.cfm/page/ptype=results/category_id=68/mode=cat/cat68.htm Advertises a poly tank for my 1939 Plymouth for 235 dollars. When my original starts to go I'll be replacing it with that. I'm not sure how well it fits but it looks like the original. Maybe they have a poly tank for your car? Quote
Ulu Posted December 27, 2014 Report Posted December 27, 2014 I take it you guys aren't using POR-15 in the gas tanks? It's pretty popular in old motorcycles. Quote
chopt50wgn Posted December 27, 2014 Report Posted December 27, 2014 I have been using the Marine Sta-Bil in my tank for years. I have also used the Lucas Oil Fuel Treatment. Both have worked very well due to the car sitting in the winter months. I do start it about once a week and have not had any problems with the ethanol fuel we all use nowadays. Both fuel treatments do help neutralize the problems that occur with the ethanol fuels. Quote
JBNeal Posted December 28, 2014 Report Posted December 28, 2014 a side note: I purchased several NOS & NORS rubber fuel lines that mount to the fuel pump & frame-mounted fuel lines. They were very pliable and did not look aged with the exception of the vintage paper labels. It was a few months after installing one of these on my '48 that I noticed it was coming apart at the crimped ferrules. I lightly tugged on the rubber & could hear the rubber reinforcement ripping apart. So off it came, and them other "correct" parts are hidden in a box somewhere in the garage. I updated to a new fuel injection grade rubber hose with clamped ends several years ago...so far, so good 1 Quote
fstfish66 Posted December 28, 2014 Report Posted December 28, 2014 This place here: http://www.tanksinc.com/index.cfm/page/ptype=results/category_id=68/mode=cat/cat68.htm Advertises a poly tank for my 1939 Plymouth for 235 dollars. When my original starts to go I'll be replacing it with that. I'm not sure how well it fits but it looks like the original. Maybe they have a poly tank for your car? thanks for the link,,, ive been looking at those have not called yet,, they list it as 1937 to 39 poly,,and 1941 and up,,,im sure a 39 is same as my 40...the 1937-39 tank is 7 inches wider,,the n the 1941 steel tank,,,if i go with the wider ill have to re do my electric fuel mounting and that may be a problem,,, so this week its comming out we shall see,,,the thing i dont like about there tanks is how the side fill tube attaches to the tank,,bolts on 4 screws ?? how does it not leak ?? ide perfer a poly tank if it will fit,,,my question is how long will it take for a new steel tank to be effected by todays gas ? Quote
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