Flathead 6 Speed Equipment

[Deucenut]

Hello, I am new to this forum but not old cars.  I stumbled across a complete set of mopar flathead 6cly speed equipment by accident. The head is Sharp(which is NOS as in still in never been used in the original box), original fenton headers and a Sharp dual carb manifold.  The guy also has a pair of NOS steal fender skirts for a 1946-48 plymouth new in the box and a 46-48 plymouth hood that is mint and has been louvered really nicely.  He also has an original NOS in the box Hurst shifter.  I am thinking about all this stuff for my car, but I'm not sure what they are worth?  Does anybody have an idea or can give me some guidance?  Thanks a lot.  I am currently restoring my 1946 plymouth.  I want it to be mostly stock, but have a few goodies on it.  

[Andydodge]

O/k......I'll give ya $200.00 Oz for the lot............lol...........seriously tho' a new Edgy(fenton type copy) finned head is about $7-800.00,(cost me over $1000.00 with shipping to get mine to Oz a few yrs ago) maybe a little more now, Fenton copied headers are about $250.00, the Offy intakes run about $250.00 now........but these figures might be a little low even..........I would work on the more you buy the cheaper it gets principle........does he have any idea what he has or what they might be "worth"?????........I'd try $1000.00 for the lot to start and see what goes from there...........individually whats there would be worth much more, but for example I had a 41 Coupe so the 46-48 stuff wouldn't have suited me but to get the engine stuff I'd have been interested in the lot........this of course presupposes that I was in the USA(I'm not) and could see/touch,feel the bits................so, dunno if this is any help....lol...........andyd  

[alsancle]

Have never seen Sharp equipment in person so I would assume rare.

 

I would agree that assuming that everything is as described 1000 is probably a starting point.   Fenton prices are pretty well established,  300-500 for the exhaust headers,  300 - 400 for the intake.  The only original head I've seen recently was a ton of money.

[Don Coatney]

What is the application for the Hurst shifter? What car is it designed for?

[Deucenut]

He said it was for a 46-48 plymouth trans...brings it from the column to the floor.  It was NOS in the original box

[Don Coatney]

Would like more information on that shifter if possible. Pictures etc.

[alsancle]

The shifter sounds interesting as my understanding is the column to floor conversion on those transmissions is very very hard because of reverse.

 

In any event,  would love to see some pictures of all the stuff as I have never seen any Sharp Speed equipment (for Mopar or otherwise).

A.J.

Edited April 20, 2013 by alsancle

[WatchingWolf]

Found this, 1948 Hot Rod magazine ad.

Being that the poster is in Vancouver, it would stand to reason that his CN Plymouth parts would be Dodge parts here in the US, correct?

Edited April 20, 2013 by WatchingWolf

[Robin (UK)]

I have a Sharp intake on my P15

 

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[Don Coatney]

Being that the poster is in Vancouver, it would stand to reason that his CN Plymouth parts would be Dodge parts here in the US, correct?

If he has a Canadian made Plymouth it would actually be a long block engine same as used in Crashler and Desoto here in the states. Makes me wonder if the Sharp stuff is also for a long block (25") engine.

[Deucenut]

I checked with the guy. It's all for the small engine: Plymouth/dodge.

[Don Coatney]

I checked with the guy. It's all for the small engine: Plymouth/dodge.

Is your car Canaidian made?

[T120]

Are you located in Vancouver,WA or Vancouver,B.C.?

[Deucenut]

It's an American Plymouth. I'm in BC Canada. It's the same engine as the USA....I know the Canadian engine was larger.

[T120]

Are you located in Vancouver,WA or Vancouver,B.C.?

 

 

It's an American Plymouth. I'm in BC Canada. It's the same engine as the USA....I know the Canadian engine was larger.

 

Just curious...Welcome to the forum...Nice find on the speed equipment.

[Deucenut]

Thanks. It might be a bit pricey for me. Not sure yet.

[Scruffy49]

If you can make the money work for you, go for it. True period correct speed parts aren't that easy to find. And some of the modern replicas aren't as well made.

 

Generic 3 on the tree to 3 on the floor shifter conversions are still common (and cheap). And work fine once dialed in. Most big box store auto parts chains still stock them. Thousands of old 3 speed trucks are still in service... long after the column shift mechanism and linkages failed.

[martybose]

If you can make the money work for you, go for it. True period correct speed parts aren't that easy to find. And some of the modern replicas aren't as well made.

 

Generic 3 on the tree to 3 on the floor shifter conversions are still common (and cheap). And work fine once dialed in. Most big box store auto parts chains still stock them. Thousands of old 3 speed trucks are still in service... long after the column shift mechanism and linkages failed.

Generic floorshifts yes, ones that work with our 3 speed trannies, no.  No one currently makes a floor shifter for Mopar 3 speeds from the 30's to 50's.

 

Marty

[greg g]

Still important to find out if this stuff is for an american Dodge Plymouth or Canadian or Chrysler/DeSoto stuff.   10 years ago I paid 400 bucks for an Edmunds head,a Fenton dual intake with two carbs and linkage, a transmission, water pump, fuel pump, oil filter and plumbing, lightened flywheel, clutch disc and pressure plate, and some other small parts from a fellow who was hotrodding a 48 Dodge.  Most of the cast aluminum intakes from the era, are going for north of 500 these days as are the period heads.  Sharp stuff is hard to find as they did not make a lot.  There are others out there, like Ellis, Thickstun, Edmunds, Fenton, Tattersfield, Mc Gurk, and of course Offenhauser.  Offy intakes (or repops) are currently available from 3 or 4 sources in the 300 dollar neighborhood.  

 

True value can only be determined by the negotiation between the seller and a willing buyer. I believe there is a head and intake combo that has currently been off and on E bay for a few months that the seller has a very high buy it now price.  But you gotta make sure which engine series the stuff is for.

[wayfarer]

I would approach this from a slightly different angle. Does the seller have a price in mind? If he want $5k then your $1k will be a bit insulting. If he thinks $500 is fair then a $1k offer might cause him to start looking around and then raise the price.

The only 'fair' price is one that both sides are happy with, regardless of actual market value.

[Mike Petersen]

I would get over to that guys place with a couple grand in pocket and see what you can get done. Before someone else stumbles across those parts.The parts are gone and you regret it for a long time. CYL.head in So. Cal market $1200 - $1500 + intake $400, headers $4-$500 fenders $250-$350 each. Buy the parts and sell them to supply funds for your rebuild. If you walk away with the parts and only spend $1000 bucks you did real good.

[Mike Petersen]

So I was curious and found his lucky find. But I don't need the parts.

Edited April 22, 2013 by Mike Petersen

[Buckytruck]

Hey Deucenut, do you still have the Sharp intake and head, or the Fenton headers?

I am very interested. 

Thank you,

Clay