Lakermatt Posted February 3, 2013 Report Posted February 3, 2013 Hey all. Just got back from a 900 mile trip to pick up a 1956 custom suburban! Bought it for 1000 bucks. When I get there, the guy says.. Hey man do you want a 56 savoy for free? I say HELL yeah!! So we loaded the burn, drive home and dropped her off and went and picked up the savoy. Wow... What a trip... Pictures to follow Quote
Lakermatt Posted February 3, 2013 Author Report Posted February 3, 2013 The BURB!! Not the burn!! Ha ha ha. Damn spell check!! Quote
Robert Horne Posted February 3, 2013 Report Posted February 3, 2013 Congrats,,,, I have a 1956 engine sitting in the shop for many years, plan on using it in my 37 Coupe. I believe the 56 had around 130 HP, alot more than my 80 HP 1937 engine..... Quote
BeBop138 Posted February 3, 2013 Report Posted February 3, 2013 We need pics.....good score.........Lee Quote
Lakermatt Posted February 4, 2013 Author Report Posted February 4, 2013 What do you guys suggest on a rear end? I am taking a 440 motor and trans from a 70's motorhome and sticking that in it. But no ideas on a rear end... Quote
Scruffy49 Posted February 4, 2013 Report Posted February 4, 2013 Ford 8.8 or 9 inch, Chrysler 8.75 or 9.25, Dana 44 or 60 (5 lug out of a BB Charger or such would be perfect but very expensive), complete front/rear swap out of a C4 or C5 Corvette... Class C (van based) or Class A (D600 based) motorhome? The heads, water pump and a bunch of other parts in the A types tend to be -3 Industrial engines. Which is why my 413/727 is still in my motorhome, 440 parts are hard enough to find these days without going broke, never mind the early BBs. Should be a neat project. How bad is the Savoy? I've got a 230/3spd out of a 56 or 57 just sitting here waiting to be redone for my 49 truck (engine only, keeping the truck 3 speed top loader). Trans/bellhousing/starter is yours if you need it and want to come get it... Quote
falconvan Posted February 4, 2013 Report Posted February 4, 2013 VERY cool! That wagon's got some class. Cant beat a free car, too. Quote
frankieflathead Posted February 4, 2013 Report Posted February 4, 2013 Kool rides, Matt. The wagon looks like a prime candidate for an "El Suburbo" pickup conversion. Quote
Lakermatt Posted February 4, 2013 Author Report Posted February 4, 2013 Too me, it's screaming SURF WAGON!!! Quote
Alshere59 Posted February 5, 2013 Report Posted February 5, 2013 I can see that wagon in a two tone red and black paint job with a roof rack and visor. Quote
Plymouthy Adams Posted February 5, 2013 Report Posted February 5, 2013 love those two door wagons...you have done well for yourself..no exuses for not putting this one on the road...none..notta.. Quote
frankieflathead Posted February 5, 2013 Report Posted February 5, 2013 Too me, it's screaming SURF WAGON!!! Yeah, that's plenty kool, too. I'm just a freak for Camino type conversions and Ozzie utes. And when I saw that it was a two door wagon, well..... Quote
Scruffy49 Posted February 5, 2013 Report Posted February 5, 2013 You cut up 4 doors, 2 door wagons are too hard to find. There's a 49-51 Mercury sedan around here that got Ranchero-fied decades ago and never finished. I'm trying to find it again to drag it home and finish it. I THINK it will fit on my 114" 2.3L 5 spd chassis... Customs don't need fancy engines, just reliable. And unless you haul around a passel of rugrats, sedans are just sheet metal donors around my area. Literally can't GIVE them away. Quote
Lakermatt Posted February 5, 2013 Author Report Posted February 5, 2013 Yeah, the motorhome is a class "A" motorhome. I have been doing some research, and I am seeing that the motor won't work unless you do a bunch of swapping... Heads, brackets, etc... Quote
fstfish66 Posted February 5, 2013 Report Posted February 5, 2013 kool wagon,,dont see those every day Quote
wayfarer Posted February 5, 2013 Report Posted February 5, 2013 Yeah, the motorhome is a class "A" motorhome. I have been doing some research, and I am seeing that the motor won't work unless you do a bunch of swapping... Heads, brackets, etc... There is nothing 'wrong' with the truck engine, if you keep it as a truck engine. You will not find a more durable package! If you need a hot-rod engine then a basic 400 or 440 is more than adequate as a starting point. Quote
Lakermatt Posted February 5, 2013 Author Report Posted February 5, 2013 So it will work putting the 440 into my wagon? We are going to pull it this weekend. Cross my fingers it goes well! I was going to put a 350 in there, but chose to stick with all mopar.... Quote
Lakermatt Posted February 5, 2013 Author Report Posted February 5, 2013 So it will work putting the 440 into my wagon? We are going to pull it this weekend. Cross my fingers it goes well! I was going to put a 350 in there, but chose to stick with all mopar.... Quote
Young Ed Posted February 5, 2013 Report Posted February 5, 2013 So it will work putting the 440 into my wagon? We are going to pull it this weekend. Cross my fingers it goes well! I was going to put a 350 in there, but chose to stick with all mopar.... Find a plymouth 350 that'd be a fun transplant and keep them guessing. Quote
Scruffy49 Posted February 6, 2013 Report Posted February 6, 2013 It will work, but you're going to need to beef up under the car even more than you would for a standard big block. And always order medium duty truck or motorhome replacement parts, which are a LOT more expensive than standard parts if you need something other than belts and tune up bits. A minor freshening up of the 413-3 in mine was over $4K in 1999/2000... better than the air over hydraulic to straight hydraulic brake conversion, but not by much... Industrial and medium/heavy truck engines will have the displacement and -3 cast into the block. Also, the TRUCK (2 ton and up) engines are cammed for torque, you'll rip a car or light truck rear end apart. If you plan to run a real RV/truck cam (not the mild so called RV cams from the parts house) you'll want a Dana 70 or 80, GM 14 bolt, Ford 10.25 or 10.5 inch rear axle, and they are 8 lug stock. The rear axle in my motorhome is a giant round unit that looks like it should be under a Peterbilt. Quote
chopt50wgn Posted February 6, 2013 Report Posted February 6, 2013 My wife has said many times.............it's a good thing we aren't rich or the driveway and shop would be filled with station wagons. Love those old wagons and like everyone said, the 2 drs are very cool. Mine is close to being started as the wiring is getting close to end. Quote
Plymouthy Adams Posted February 6, 2013 Report Posted February 6, 2013 . Also, the TRUCK (2 ton and up) engines are cammed for torque, you'll rip a car or light truck rear end apart. If you plan to run a real RV/truck cam (not the mild so called RV cams from the parts house) you'll want a Dana 70 or 80, GM 14 bolt, Ford 10.25 or 10.5 inch rear axle, and they are 8 lug stock. The rear axle in my motorhome is a giant round unit that looks like it should be under a Peterbilt. I agree that the 413 truck engine is cammed for increased low end torque, most trucks are including the lowly 318 with truck application such as a w series that also has other significant internal upgrades.. but it is not gong to rip the rear end out of a car or light truck application...remember it is the light car 8 3/4 that the monster HP blocks are running street and track....HOWEVER to the end of which you are referring I will state that a light truck or car rear gear will never be the gear of choice for the size chassis and weight you are proppelling from stop to speed and on hills with that 413 in a motor home... second: there is another Mopar 413 of such high torque that this is a true statement..that is the big flathead 6 413 truck engine of yesteryear... Quote
Scruffy49 Posted February 6, 2013 Report Posted February 6, 2013 I'm making a shed out of the motorhome. I can't afford 4 miles per gallon... Quote
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