LowerthanLife Posted January 13, 2013 Report Posted January 13, 2013 hi everyone, my names tony, i have a 54 plymouth savoy that i bought a couple of years ago. the 218 motor doesent run so i pulled it out and stripped it down. during the teardown i managed to damage the crankshaft pulley and the timing chain cover and im looking to get some replacements. around this time last year i started the project and there were, of course, some delays and distractions. but im back at it and getting my parts list together. does anyone make these parts new? i mean, id like to keep everything original, considering the car hasent ever been 'messed with'. but i would settle for an aftermarket replacement to get this car on the road again. any advice or offers are appreciated. thanks Quote
John Reddie Posted January 13, 2013 Report Posted January 13, 2013 Hi Tony and welcome. These guys should be able to supply you with some used but good replacement parts that you are looking for. Good luck to you. John R http://mooresautosalvage.com/parts.asp?division=2&make=Plymouth Quote
1940plymouth Posted January 13, 2013 Report Posted January 13, 2013 Here is another good place to contact. http://www.fatfenderedrelics.com/stainlesstrim.html Good luck and welcome aboard Sure would be nice if you could share some photos with us Quote
pflaming Posted January 13, 2013 Report Posted January 13, 2013 This yard has a nice 54 Savoy, www.globeclassiccarparts.com. Call Steve at 559 352 1407. Steve is honest and not greedy in his pricing. Quote
Scruffy49 Posted January 13, 2013 Report Posted January 13, 2013 Wide belt or narrow belt? My 48 P15 sourced 218 takes the wide belt, my 56 or 57 Savoy sourced 230 takes the narrow belt. I think the difference is 6v vs 12v... Quote
JerseyHarold Posted January 13, 2013 Report Posted January 13, 2013 Wide belt or narrow belt? My 48 P15 sourced 218 takes the wide belt, my 56 or 57 Savoy sourced 230 takes the narrow belt. I think the difference is 6v vs 12v... The belts went from wide to narrow in the middle of the 1950 model year. Quote
Scruffy49 Posted January 14, 2013 Report Posted January 14, 2013 Doesn't mean they haven't been switched at some point. Catalog (parts store) shows my 230 having a 56 block, 57 head, 55 intake, 58 exhaust and a year indeterminable hot air choke 1bbl Carter carburetor... The 218 in the truck has a 48 car block, 49 truck head and a mid-50s dizzy... If it fit, it got used... Quote
LowerthanLife Posted January 26, 2013 Author Report Posted January 26, 2013 hi again, so ive located the timing cover, a nice used one that will match the rest of the car. (rusty but not dented) in my search i learned that the vibration damper (part #1319425) actually seperates from the pulley (part # 1402970). has anyone done this before? it looks like rivits hold them together. i dont want to damage the assembly any further. if i can manage to seperate them , i'll only need the pulley! and the more i read up; im finding out my savoy is a later year model which, apparently ,is when they added the vibration damper. can anyone shed some light on this? thanks Quote
54Illinois Posted January 27, 2013 Report Posted January 27, 2013 So your motor is the 230? What is the date on the head? Quote
LowerthanLife Posted January 27, 2013 Author Report Posted January 27, 2013 (edited) its the 218. (diamond)p25(star)362963(star) engine number 5 18 54 production date Edited January 27, 2013 by LowerthanLife Quote
Plymouthy Adams Posted January 27, 2013 Report Posted January 27, 2013 the diamond indicates it is a 230 and not the 218...as the transistion started 24 February....as you also have the 5/18/54 date on the engine your car should have the CD radio dial Quote
54Illinois Posted January 27, 2013 Report Posted January 27, 2013 (edited) Mine is dated the 24th or 25th...sweet! 358551 is my block number. Does the block date match the head? The diamond does mean the 230. Rods are different... Edited January 27, 2013 by 54Illinois Quote
LowerthanLife Posted January 27, 2013 Author Report Posted January 27, 2013 great! more displacement, more power. makes me happy. those numbers were on the block, i'll look and see whats on the head. has anyone ever seperated the vibration damper from the crank pulley? thanks for the info Quote
Don Coatney Posted January 27, 2013 Report Posted January 27, 2013 great! has anyone ever seperated the vibration damper from the crank pulley? thanks for the info Seporation has been known to happen over time. Do you want to remove the damper? Quote
LowerthanLife Posted January 27, 2013 Author Report Posted January 27, 2013 the assembly is off the car, thats how i damaged it in the first place. i want to seperate the pulley from the damper as to replace the pulley. but they are held together with rivets. Quote
Don Coatney Posted January 27, 2013 Report Posted January 27, 2013 the assembly is off the car, thats how i damaged it in the first place. i want to seperate the pulley from the damper as to replace the pulley. but they are held together with rivets. I believe the bonding agent is laminated rubber. I did modify my damper but on my engine (1953 Desoto) the pully is a bolt on. Quote
Dodgeb4ya Posted January 27, 2013 Report Posted January 27, 2013 (edited) 1953 or 54 Plymouths had their own optional vibration damper. It is not the same design as the common one pictured above as seen on all the DeSoto and Chrysler sixes. That one will work fine though. The factory original damper is a smaller diameter rivited together unit. It does not come apart. I will see if I have one to take a picture of. The proper puller of course must be used to remove it from the crankshaft. You don't use a 2 jaw puller grabbing the outside diameter of the damper. Bob Edited January 28, 2013 by Dodgeb4ya Quote
LowerthanLife Posted January 27, 2013 Author Report Posted January 27, 2013 i have a picture of the part, but i dont know how to post pics. is there a how to posted somewhere? im having trouble finding it? Quote
greg g Posted January 27, 2013 Report Posted January 27, 2013 (edited) How did you put your pic in your avitar? You can use the image link button to the left of "<>" in the reply dialog box,(second line of the tools in the blue header) or use the More reply options select manage attachments to imbed thumbnails. Edited January 27, 2013 by greg g Quote
LowerthanLife Posted January 28, 2013 Author Report Posted January 28, 2013 greg g....i used a direct file , but when i hit the button you mentioned it allows only a url. but reguardless it seems Dodgeb4ya added a few pics for clarity in post #18. and yes that's the one i have on my engine. Quote
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