I knew I never liked the DMV

[ferdball]

Now I know why... They wont life a finger or use any common sense to help a guy out.

I'm hoping anyone might have gone through this and could possibly have some advice so I waste as little time as possible!

I've just purchased a D14 and the vin number on the title is the engine number. (Ive heard that this happens sometimes for various reasons)

We'll I though it might be nice to just fix the problem and have it corrected to be the tag on the door, which by all accounts seems to be the correct vin when I look it up. And I have no reason to believe it's not original.

The lady on the other line of the phone said there is nothing I could do. nothing....

I tried to reason and asked what if the motor is bad and I have to replace it and now my car has no vin as far at the state is concerned? So she said I'd have to have the state issue me a new vin number as a rebuildable or salvaged or something... Then I said but I'd like to use the original number that actually means something....??? It would be a shame to just slap a state appointed vin tag on an original car... LAME

That's as far as I got. I politely said "Thanks for all you help" whilst biting my tounge.

Is there a way to purchase a line ticket from chrysler or something so that I can show them it's all original and it's OK for them to just change my vin that is not on their records anyway?

hope someone can shed some light on this....

I AND THE CAR ARE LOCATED IN UTAH

Edited October 6, 2012 by ferdball

[Young Ed]

Yes you can purchase a build record from Chrysler historical. You should also post your state as every state is different. Here in MN if the DMV isn't cooperating we can call the state and get the official word.

[austinsailor]

If we knew where you were trying to do this someone might have some help to offer. If you were in Missouri it's simple. Since I don't know where you are I have no idea if I could help.

I will say I would never take some random person who answers the phone at any DMV as the final word.

[karl head]

Know I know why... They wont life a finger or use any common sense to help a guy out.

I'm hoping anyone might have gone through this and could possibly have some advice so I waste as little time as possible!

I've just purchased a D14 and the vin number on the title is the engine number. (Ive heard that this happens sometimes for various reasons)

We'll I though it might be nice to just fix the problem and have it corrected to be the tag on the door, which by all accounts seems to be the correct vin when I look it up. And I have no reason to believe it's not original.

The lady on the other line of the phone said there is nothing I could do. nothing....

I tried to reason and asked what if the motor is bad and I have to replace it and now my car has no vin as far at the state is concerned? So she said I'd have to have the state issue me a new vin number as a rebuildable or salvaged or something... Then I said but I'd like to use the original number that actually means something....??? It would be a shame to just slap a state appointed vin tag on an original car... LAME

That's as far as I got. I politely said "Thanks for all you help" whilst biting my tounge.

Is there a way to purchase a line ticket from chrysler or something so that I can show them it's all original and it's OK for them to just change my vin that is not on their records anyway?

hope someone can shed some light on this....

I ran into a similar problem years ago with my first Triumph. lived in a smaller city got the run around. a friend who live in a small town suggested trying there... the lady never even blinked made the changes and away I went.

Karl

[90lxfive0]

Got to love the DMV. I got the big 'f you' to my original 1950 plate when trying to register my car, after waiting 3 hours with every undesireable in the area.

[TodFitch]

No doubt the rules vary state by state but I think your experience depends largely on the clerk you happen to get when you get to the counter. As noted by karl head, a small town office that is less busy and hectic might have employees that are more willing to help out.

I actually did exactly what you are trying to do when I moved to Baltimore back in the mid-70s. The clerk took about 40 minutes in some back room, eventually came back out and said the numbers match and there would be no problem. In retrospect I think she might have been on the phone with what ever passed as the Chrysler Historical Collection back then.

I can see where a state that requires that type of check might have clerks unwilling to do the work in a busy office if they are being rated based on how many transactions per hour they do.

[Daliant.]

The engine number should also be stamped on the driver side frame rail in the area over the rear axle, so even if you swapped engines the frame number should still match the numbers on the ownership papers. This is assuming the car still has its original engine.

[JerseyHarold]

I've registered a few'paperless' cars and changed engine number titles to VIN tiles with very little hassle. My experience with DMV is that you get much better results in person. As a last resort, if you have documentation showing the engine number, you can title the car that way and amend the paperwork later.

Edited October 4, 2012 by JerseyHarold

[Guest P15-D24]

In California you can do it, just need to get a LEO to verify the numbers.

[90lxfive0]

What reason did they give you?

NY, the plate must be unrestored original at the time of registration, and the # can not presently be in use.

That wasn't the problem. Apparently it can't be done in the dmv office, has to be done through phone and mail with the Albany office. That, and my insurance card doesn't physically have the word 'historical' printed on it, even though I have collector insurance.

[greg g]

If you go to the DMV web site the instructions for using a YOM plate are there and are very specific. You ins card mus have Historic on it, you need to send in pictures of the plate you intend to use, and you must do it through the mail through Albany. Or you can get an Historic plate, and apply for the use of your YOM plates once your registration is established as an Historic Vehicle. They YOM useage is a sub catagorie of the Historic Vehicle registration classification. They all go through the Albany Special plate office.

http://www.dmv.ny.gov/cpl8faqs.htm#Historical

[Tom Skinner]

Gents,

These "Captains" of Industry (government employees) pretend to work while we pretend to pay them. If you appeal to the fact that you would like to speak to their supervisor to accomplish what it is you seek they will comply.

Why you ask? Because they know if they are documented for not helping you in a kind manner, they will be reprimanded at appraisal time and crapped out of a raise. You see that's how government eats their own.

If I can hold you down and crap you out of a raise as your supervisor, then I will receive a farthing more. Its kind of like the the little bird in the nest that keeps crapping itself to keep warm. Politely ask to speak to their supervisor and they will jump through hoops of real fire to help you. Remember that the thought for the day is posted on their bulletin board.

Until they are reminded of their task - they forget it. Question: Do you know why government employees only get a half hour for lunch? Because if we gave them any longer they would need to be retrained.

Edited October 5, 2012 by Tom Skinner
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[TodFitch]

Gents,

These "Captains" of Industry (government employees) pretend to work while we pretend to pay them. If you appeal to the fact that you would like to speak to their supervisor to accomplish what it is you seek they will comply.

Why you ask? Because they know if they are documented for not helping you in a kind manner, they will be reprimanded at appraisal time and crapped out of a raise. You see that's how government eats their own.

If I can hold you down and crap you out of a raise as your supervisor, then I will receive a farthing more. Its kind of like the the little bird in the nest that keeps crapping itself to keep warm. Politely ask to speak to their supervisor and they will jump through hoops of real fire to help you. Remember that the thought for the day is posted on their bulletin board.

Until they are reminded of their task - they forget it. Question: Do you know why government employees only get a half hour for lunch? Because if we gave them any longer they would need to be retrained.

And how is this different than from any large private employer? The corporations with consistently good and helpful "customer service" are very few and far between.