Jeff Balazs Posted July 3, 2012 Report Posted July 3, 2012 Now that I have my engine running I have a few small oil leaks to deal with around the valve covers. What do you guys like to do for a fix on these? I have new gaskets and fiber washers on. Thanks for your input. Jeff Quote
HanksB3B Posted July 3, 2012 Report Posted July 3, 2012 Jeff, The gaskets used to be cork now I think they are a rubberized material. Tightening the heck out of the special screws is not necessarily the answer because there is a tendency for them to "dish" and actually work in reverse of doing what they are supposed to do. Possible Alternates: 1. Make your own gaskets from 1/8" cork? (make a router template?) 2. Use gasket cement (works but not my favorite) to glue the rubberized type to the cover plate and no gasket cement on the block side? Hank Quote
Plymouthy Adams Posted July 3, 2012 Report Posted July 3, 2012 personally I would check the borders of the cover plates..making sure they are not dished already and ensure the four sides are on the the plane.. Quote
Jeff Balazs Posted July 3, 2012 Author Report Posted July 3, 2012 Hmm.... I had one off the other day and it did not appear to show any distortion. It had a small drip going so I tried smearing some permatex on it and refitted it. Of course now it is leaking in a slightly different spot. It has a new Felpro gasket. When I ran the truck again yesterday the other cover started dripping too.....and I was careful not to disturb it when working on the rear one Sunday. I have another set of valve covers and some new rubber gaskets from VPW I guess I can try them and see if there is any improvement. Jeff Quote
52b3b Joe Posted July 3, 2012 Report Posted July 3, 2012 I had to retighten mine a few times after I got mine running. I don't know if the heating and cooling does something to it, but now mine don't leak anymore once retightened. Quote
Jeff Balazs Posted July 3, 2012 Author Report Posted July 3, 2012 Took out one of the thumb bolts on the front cover just now. It looks like it is leaking from around the bolt holes. Turns out the seat area of this bolt is not flat. If I put a flat washer on it it wobbles significantly. So instead of the cover being dished it is the sealing surface on the bolts. Looks like some sort of rubber washer arrangement would probably work. Jeff Quote
Don Coatney Posted July 3, 2012 Report Posted July 3, 2012 There should be no pressure above atmospheric in the valve chamber unless your engine has excessive blow-by and all crankcase vent holes are plugged. And all splash oil should drop into the crankcase assumimg the drain holes are open. I have found that cork gaskets work the best in this application. Pictured are the cork gaskets I am using in my Desoto long block engine as the rubber gaskets I tried failed. Quote
ggdad1951 Posted July 3, 2012 Report Posted July 3, 2012 as Don shows there should be some washer gaskets on the bolts. Quote
Jeff Balazs Posted July 3, 2012 Author Report Posted July 3, 2012 Yes I had those washer gaskets. Problem was (I think) that the surface that they seal against on the retaining bolt is distorted. Of the 4 bolt 2 had significant distortion......almost 1/16" You would never get a thin hard fiber washer to seal that much. After about 15 minutes of running time they began to weep oil around the bolt hole. I have made a fix from a rubber washer and a hardened steel washer which I think trues up the sealing surface for the fiber washer. I will let you know when I have tested it for a while. Jeff Quote
Jeff Balazs Posted July 4, 2012 Author Report Posted July 4, 2012 OK my fix appears to have worked. Ran for 25 minutes...no leaks at all. Funny how small things like this can mess with you. To look at these retaining bolts you would think the sealing lip was true....and they probably were back in the day. Well one less thing to fuss with now. Jeff Quote
greg g Posted July 4, 2012 Report Posted July 4, 2012 over tightening is the most common cause of leakage other then a failed gasket or bent parts. Quote
Plymouthy Adams Posted July 4, 2012 Report Posted July 4, 2012 over tightening is the most common cause of leakage other then a failed gasket or bent parts. actually I have found that overtightening is actually the root cause for bent parts and gasket failure due to over squish..kind of a three part package Quote
Jeff Balazs Posted July 4, 2012 Author Report Posted July 4, 2012 Yes I agree. I am sure that these distorted retaining bolts were caused by just that. Two were good and two were not. Not a huge problem but one that was not as visible as a tweaked sheet metal cover either. The valve covers themselves seem just fine and the main rubber gaskets are working. Of course these covers are not in the easiest location to get to. And that is probably why they got the "rough" treatment in the first place. Jeff Quote
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