55 Fargo Posted May 20, 2011 Report Posted May 20, 2011 Here sia pic of my fuel lines from fuel pump to carb, I think I have a recipe for problems here, anybody got any ideas? The carb to glass bowl filter, then steel line goes down toward fuel pump, but connects to rubber fuel line, next is the metal jacket fuel filter, then rubber line to fuel pump. This fuel filter is horizontal, and is very close to the oil pump. Could this set-up allow gas to boil easy in the line to the carb, or create any vapr lock. I always find my engine is very finnicky to hot start, especially as the outdoor temps soar in summer, and the under hood temps rise too.....Thanx Fred Quote
steveplym Posted May 20, 2011 Report Posted May 20, 2011 (edited) Hey Fred. I have the steel line up to the carb from the fuel pump like you. I did though run a metal line from the left side where it mounts on the tank all the way up to the front and around the rad support then it connects to a rubber line on the right front to the fuel pump. I don't have any problems with vapor lock, and I don't even have the fuel pump heat shield on. Edited May 20, 2011 by steveplym Quote
TodFitch Posted May 20, 2011 Report Posted May 20, 2011 At least some hot start problems are due to fuel expanding in the carburetor float bowl and then flowing into the manifold flooding the engine. Setting the float a little lower than spec can help for that issue. If the problem is the fuel pump getting too hot the you can often start the car but then it will die after a little bit and not restart until you cool the fuel pump down. Quote
greg g Posted May 20, 2011 Report Posted May 20, 2011 I would re route it to get it further away from the exhaust and to minimize the length gas line that runs adjacent to the heat. Quote
BobT-47P15 Posted May 20, 2011 Report Posted May 20, 2011 And........is that metal filter fairly new and presumably clean?? Quote
55 Fargo Posted May 20, 2011 Author Report Posted May 20, 2011 And........is that metal filter fairly new and presumably clean?? Yes, and gas tank and lines were all new too. I could change it now, may be due.... Quote
woodie49 Posted May 20, 2011 Report Posted May 20, 2011 Mine is routed between the radiator support and the heat sheild. It is a good inch at least away from the manifold everywhere and I don't have a vapor lock issue. I did have some issue with it a while back when my heat riser remained in the cold setting and my engine was running hotter. My engine still runs a bit on the hot side, but no vapor lock. Quote
48ply1stcar Posted May 22, 2011 Report Posted May 22, 2011 I left my glass filter on and the metal fuel line from the fuel pump. To keep the screen in the pump clean I put an inline plastic filter in the fuel line under the driver's seat where it runs along the frame. Quote
Dodgeb4ya Posted May 22, 2011 Report Posted May 22, 2011 (edited) Fred, Here is a very close to original fuel line on a 47 C38 Windsor. And some more pics off of misc. cars. Fred the 1st pic was off one of my engine jobs for a customer- I can't get anymore shots-the car is gone. These other pics are just web car shots- cannot get a lower shot of the fuel pump area!. Your fuel line should be routed as shown. Edited May 23, 2011 by Dodgeb4ya Quote
Rodney Bullock Posted May 22, 2011 Report Posted May 22, 2011 Hey Fred, You are flurting with danger:eek: That line is way to close to your manifold. I know many here do not have a heat shield however I would get on right away. I would also reroute the line. You know when things are new they tend to work very well, no problems as things get alittle age on them they change. There are times when you are going to push the car(long trips) and all these features you have included will work for you. It's funny you won't know it but they will come into play. Great to see your car on the road and you are enjoying it:) Quote
55 Fargo Posted May 22, 2011 Author Report Posted May 22, 2011 Hey Fred, You are flurting with danger:eek: That line is way to close to your manifold. I know many here do not have a heat shield however I would get on right away. I would also reroute the line. You know when things are new they tend to work very well, no problems as things get alittle age on them they change. There are times when you are going to push the car(long trips) and all these features you have included will work for you. It's funny you won't know it but they will come into play.Great to see your car on the road and you are enjoying it:) Thanx Rodney, will be looking at this amtter soon, very rainy here today, so maybe later today. Quote
55 Fargo Posted May 22, 2011 Author Report Posted May 22, 2011 Fred,Here is an original fuel line on a 47 C38 Windsor. Rob, any chance of getting a few more pics of this, from different angles, thanx a lot.....Fred Quote
55 Fargo Posted May 22, 2011 Author Report Posted May 22, 2011 Here are some detailed pics of the fuel lines running from pump to carb. I have fastened the fuel line down away from the engine, manifolds etc. I want to eliminate the in-line metal fuel filter, and put 1 close to the tank, and use that in together with the glass bowl fuel filter. I plan to buy new stell line and re-create this set-up soon. Does anyone think this will be okay, as my fuel line is as far away from the exhaust manifold as possible. Quote
Jim Saraceno Posted May 22, 2011 Report Posted May 22, 2011 I agree that you should move the fuel filter to near the tank, however, if you have a fuel filter, I would get rid of the glass bowl. For one, it is redundant but my main concern with the glass bowl would be if something happened to it, it would be pouring gas onto a hot manifold. If you REALLY want a glass bowl, why don't you get a fuel pump with an integral glass bowl. That way it is below the hot manifold. Quote
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