Rattle, rattle, bang clang

[Charlie Olson]

Well, today, I drove PLYWOOD for the first time, since the great wreck of 9-16-2010. Ran great, looks cool and I felt just a little paranoia driving it. As I was nearing home base, on city streets, my old nemesis clanging sound happened again, just as I was slowing down at a stop sign. It sounds like some one is swirling a bunch of bicycle chain links around in a tin wash tub; lasting only for about 6 - 8 seconds. It doesn't seem to affect the running of the engine, doesn't change pitch when I lightly rev up the engine, is the same with clutch in or out, keeps clanging with engine turned quickly off and seems to come from just behind the engine. Art rebuilt the clutch and flywheel components last year, at which time he found a lot of shrapnel type of pieces. I am at a loss to know what it is that I am hearing. Has anybody else experienced anything like this in your P15's? PLYWOOD ran fine before, during and after the shrapnel attack.

Edited December 15, 2010 by Charlie Olson

[BobT-47P15]

Could the flywheel be chipping off some teeth?

[james49ply]

How about the starter bendix hitting the flywheel? If it did it with the engine off and coasting i would look to the park brake assy, driveshaft or, heaven forbid, transmission internals.

[greg g]

From the main area of this site under potholes, does this sound familiar.

Metallic ping from the bell housing

Occasionally after driving for 15 or 20 minutes I would hear a metallic ping from under the floorboard. The frequency would vary with engine speed. However nothing seemed wrong with the engine or transmission. When I stopped and restarted sometimes the noise would go away, sometime not. Finally I tracked it down to the starter bendix. While driving, the bendix gear would vibrate and move toward the flywheel ring gear, sometimes enough to make contact and create a metallic ping. When I would restart the bendix gear moved back from the ring gear. Cleaning the bendix gears fixed the problem.

[Charlie Olson]

Hi All, thank you for your ideas. After talking with Art, about the Bendix Gear possibility, we are betting that is what the problem most likely is. Now, in a few days, I'll post pictures of PLYWOOD with Art, Chris and Wil, the three men who take care of and restored PLYWOOD.

[JIPJOBXX]

I had a noise like that in some car I had and it turned out to be the clutch disc.

[JIPJOBXX]

How about your emergency brake? Check that out maybe it loose or out of adjustment.

[Don Coatney]

Hi All, thank you for your ideas. After talking with Art, about the Bendix Gear possibility, we are betting that is what the problem most likely is. Now, in a few days, I'll post pictures of PLYWOOD with Art, Chris and Wil, the three men who take care of and restored PLYWOOD.

How is it possible to restore (meaning to restore to original condition) a car that never existed:confused:

[Eneto-55]

How is it possible to restore (meaning to restore to original condition) a car that never existed:confused:

Speaking of which, if Don is saying what I think he is saying (and I always wondered, since you call the car 'plywood'), do you have plans for the wooden parts? [There is a guy out here in Ohio that is - I suspect - taking sedans (of a non-Mopar make) and building 'woodies'. I just hope his customers are told.]

Neto

[Frank Elder]

Speaking of which, if Don is saying what I think he is saying (and I always wondered, since you call the car 'plywood'), do you have plans for the wooden parts? [There is a guy out here in Ohio that is - I suspect - taking sedans (of a non-Mopar make) and building 'woodies'. I just hope his customers are told.]

Neto

You don't have to wonder, Charlie has always been upfront about his phantom woody having a chevy aftermarket type wood kit applied to his car:)

[RiffRaff]

You don't have to wonder, Charlie has always been upfront about his phantom woody having a chevy aftermarket type wood kit applied to his car:)

And a fine job it is too, its a fantastic looking woody.

I get great enjoyment reading about the ups and downs of good old plywood.

Keep up the good work Charlie, i hope you get to the root of the problem.

[JIPJOBXX]

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[Charlie Olson]

How is it possible to restore (meaning to restore to original condition) a car that never existed:confused:

Art and the boys restored PLYWOOD to it's original driving condition, as it was when I bought it. Yes, even one-of-a-kind PLYWOOD was an original once.

BTW, PLYWOOD ran beautifully today. I received a 12 thumbs up salute from a group of Legion Riders as they passed me, on the road by Superstition Mountain.

Edited December 16, 2010 by Charlie Olson

[Charlie Olson]

You don't have to wonder, Charlie has always been upfront about his phantom woody having a chevy aftermarket type wood kit applied to his car:)

PLYWOOD, of course stands for Plymouth Woodie. A phantom woodie, for sure. It is my understanding that PLYWOOD is the only woodie known to have had two articles, with photos, about it, in the National Woodie Club monthly magazine, The Woodie Times. Not a bad accomplishment for an orphan phantom woodie. PLYWOOD was also presented in the POC, The Bulletin. The wood kit for PLYWOOD came from the trees on the farm, of the man who created PLYWOOD, from a photo of a 1946 Nash Suburban.

[Frank Elder]

Luv your car Charlie, always have!

[Andydodge]

Charlie, whether its a phantom or not, Plywood looks great and is a credit to all those involved.......I hadn't noticed pics of it before today and it had me wondering about wether it was a phantom or not, your comments above answered that, but that doesn't detract from it.......btw what hit Plywood in the 1st place?........regards, andyd

[Andydodge]

Shel.......thanks, now I remember, I did read that.......lol.............err what day is it?.........lol.........thanks., andyd

[Charlie Olson]

Tonight, as I was reading the posts, here on P15D24, I came across the thread with photos of the old saw mill. After a few high octane egg nogs, I realized something rather startling. I purchased PLYWOOD from a man who has his own auld skewl saw mill, Model T belt driven style; who cut down the trees on his own farm that he attached to the sides of PLYWOOD. The really cool thing is that his last name is Wood. So, for you purists, let it be known that I actually have an authentic original Wood Plymouth, thus PLYWOOD. Maybe PLYWOOD isn't a Phantom, after all.

How is it possible to restore (meaning to restore to original condition) a car that never existed:confused:

[Charlie Olson]

A rather large Ford Expedition, as it sped through a stop sign, hit a first car, then bounced into PLYWOOD. The good news is that I am driving PLYWOOD for Christmas; almost as good as getting my two front teeth when I was eight.

Charlie, whether its a phantom or not, Plywood looks great and is a credit to all those involved.......I hadn't noticed pics of it before today and it had me wondering about wether it was a phantom or not, your comments above answered that, but that doesn't detract from it.......btw what hit Plywood in the 1st place?........regards, andyd

[busycoupe]

Plywood looks great, and I know that it was made from a sedan. However, I was wondering, are the wood sides actually structural, or are they a veneer applied over the sheet metal body?

Dave

[Charlie Olson]

Good question. The wood sides are shaped to fit over the existing metal skin of the doors and sides. The nice things about that are the car is more safe than a wood box station wagon, there is no shifting of the doors, no creaking/rattling sounds of the wood and more over all sound insulation.

Plywood looks great, and I know that it was made from a sedan. However, I was wondering, are the wood sides actually structural, or are they a veneer applied over the sheet metal body?

Dave

[BobT-47P15]

Charlie.....I see in one picture you have some of the stainless steel

wing window wind deflectors. (almost a tongue twister). Do they

make any noise when driving?

Mine worked loose on the rivets that

hold the main part to the clips and they make a little vibrating sort of

noise when moving. So, I removed mine for now.

I haven't done it yet, but the solution is to re-brad those rivets with

a punch and hammer.

[Charlie Olson]

My metal wind wing deflectors don't make any noise from lose rivets, but did from being lose where the clamp fits over the window wing frame. I simply rebent the clamps to fit more securely and now I don't get any noise. I bought my real good quality deflectors from a vendor at the "BACK TO THE FIFTIES" car show, in St Paul, four years ago. I use them alternately on RED RYDER and PLYWOOD.

Charlie.....I see in one picture you have some of the stainless steel

wing window wind deflectors. (almost a tongue twister). Do they

make any noise when driving?

Mine worked loose on the rivets that

hold the main part to the clips and they make a little vibrating sort of

noise when moving. So, I removed mine for now.

I haven't done it yet, but the solution is to re-brad those rivets with

a punch and hammer.

[BobT-47P15]

OK, thanks......just wondered.