looking for a mtached set of a connecting rods

[blueskies]

A man in Oregon lists O.D. transmissions for MoPars, for pre 59 he gets $1600.00 complete with all controls. He lists in the Hemmings big monthly book under Chrysler parts in the front of the book. I do not know what George Asche sells his far but the $800.00 that Neil Riddle sold that one for is the cheapest that I have ever seen for one for a P15-D24.

I paid $300 for mine... But turned out to be full of busted gears... I have $700 into it with all the rebuild parts, electrics , and cable.

Pete

[Joe Flanagan]

correct information above..your car would immediately suffer points lost in that catagory and to the tune of probable inelligibility for an award. The 1952 introduction of the R10 saw these units offered back to the dealers in a kit form for retrofit into any leftover 51 model car as an incentitive to buy, thus a dealer installed OD in a 51 model only is considered correct for judging. The unit as we all know would be able to be retrofitted by the dealer to all other cars equally and there is not any arguement that it could have been done as such. It is just not recognized in the field as stock as the 51 for the 51 could still be considered "sold new with OD" there is always a cutoff to everything.

Interesting history, Tim. I didn't know they were used to move the leftover 51s. Didn't they offer the R-10 in Chryslers and DeSotos from earlier on, since those models were higher up the line?

[Plymouthy Adams]

I have never read up on the Chrysler and Dodges of the 51/52 era as I own Plymouth of that vintage. I would guess the tactic was across the lineup of vehicles from the mother ship..anyway..this is only from an article I read..I do not have access to any corporate documents..

The information is only mentioned in passing on the kit..the article did not address the rear gear ratio's either..I had one 51 model that was retrofitted with OD, as I got the car used I would not venture into the date and who installed the unit. It was a super clean install down to the correct wiring etc..however I can assure you the rear gear was a 3.9 and not the factory 4.3 ratio on the 52 model..thus the retrofit status of the OD

[greg g]

The plymouth club will take a deduction when judging a car that has a Od if it wasn't offered on that year model. Since Plymouth was the poor sister of the group it did nto get OD until i believe 1950. So the P15's with OD installed bu owners, do get a tick off of a few points but not enough for disqual. Will you ever get a 1st place trophy from the POC with an OD in a no OD.....would depend on the conditio and scoring of the rest of the car. But its not likely.

[Plymouthy Adams]

The OD for Plymouth was a mid year change for the 1952 model..

[hkestes41]

I actually picked mine up with a running 218 attached for $200. Came from a 53 Suburban that a guy was putting a hemi in from a wrecked Dodge RAM. Found it on Ebay and nobody bid on it. The thing was that his description did not mention the OD and the pictures he posted were small and dark. Once I increased the size of the photos I thought I could see the solenoid so I contacted him and he confirmed the transmission was on OD.

Scheduled a business trip to Amarillo and rented a pickup. After making customer calls for a couple days I drove to Denver and picked it up then back to Amarillo for another day of customer calls and then drove back to Dallas the next day.

Turned out the 218 had a cracked piston, but the transmission went into my 48 and has performed flawlessly. As a bonus I swapped the higher compression 53 head onto my engine as well.

[michael.warshaw]

in a 218 with stock tranny, you can druise on the pkway at 60 adn this will not hurt the motor correct? waht should the cruisng speed be, at 60 or 65 can you hurt the engine?

[Captain Neon]

I cruise my 230 w/out OD at 50 mph. Some will tell you that 60 mph is fine. Do what you want. It is your car; not mine.

[martybose]

in a 218 with stock tranny, you can druise on the pkway at 60 adn this will not hurt the motor correct? waht should the cruisng speed be, at 60 or 65 can you hurt the engine?

Hurt the engine, probably not. Sound uncomfortable, you bet!

On my 47, which runs a shorter tire than most (235/60-15), the engine would be running about 3200 RPM at 60-65 MPH,and sounded like it was thrashing pretty hard. With my overdrive installed it cruises comfortably at 70 MPH at 2500 RPM.

Marty

[michael.warshaw]

im thinking maybe i should do the 230 now, and get that overdrive tranny.

[Dodgeb4ya]

im thinking maybe i should do the 230 now, and get that overdrive tranny.

That would be a very good choice Michael-Please move forward and do that!

Bob

[michael.warshaw]

but now where do i get the tranny? and i am not sure about what else i need beside the rods, crank, i dont get the bolt up part? can somesome expalin this top me thanks.

[Rollie���]

rered the prevos posts as you questions hav ready ben aswerd

[Joe Flanagan]

What do you mean by "the bolt up part?" You have to look around for an OD transmission. There is no particular vendor that sells them besides George Asche, who was mentioned in an earlier post in this thread. E-bay, beating the bushes, etc. That's how I found mine. Check salvage yards, too. Hey, that would be a good way for you to get your hands on some of this stuff and not hurt anything. Go to a salvage yard with some tools. See what you can find.

[michael.warshaw]

whos is this guy geroge asche? im not sure if theis was answered before how much does he get for the od tranny's? what car is that tranny out of ?

Edited January 10, 2010 by michael.warshaw

[michael.warshaw]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/T86F-3-SPEED-OVERDRIVE-TRANSMISSION-REBUILT-T-86-R-10_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem439c666cf9QQitemZ290386767097QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories

is this the right one?

[greg g]

studebaker or ford.

[michael.warshaw]

dam, well im thinikg to myself whats the point of having a p15, if you cant . shouldt drive it on the parkway. if i can possibly break the engine, by driving at 60 on the parkway, i need that od tranny.

[jd52cranbrook]

OK, at the risk of being booted out of here.

I have randomly read this thread off and on. I am amazed it is still going on.

Is it just me, or,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Mr.Warshaw;

I think I read where you are a attorney?

If so, then do a little research. I am sure you are capable. The questions you are asking have been answered several times in this thread, and I am quite positive are in the archives of this site. It seems to me you are asking questions just to be asking them. I suggest before you go to your next question you do a search on here for the answer first prior to posting it. I realize this board is very helpful, and it has helped me tremendously. But to be honest I feel your next request will be to have some of the contributors from this board come over and do the work for you.

If I am off base please accept my apologies, but to me enough is enough. It just seems to me you want everyone else to do your leg work, is that a fair assumption?

[michael.warshaw]

i dont want anyone to do anything, if people can help me great if not, no comment neccesarry. What research is their that needs to be done, i need this od tranny, and all the other things ascociated with building a 218 block with 230 guts. youve made the comment for a reason, tell me what i should be reseraching, it seems pretty cut and dry at this point, if you dont like my threads, IGNORE THEM!

Edited January 10, 2010 by michael.warshaw

[greg g]

One question, did you look at Blueskies website?

[michael.warshaw]

One question, did you look at Blueskies website?

no ill check it out. thanks.

[michael.warshaw]

spoke to george asche nice guy, he will help me with my project.

[Andydodge]

Michael........that suggestion regarding looking at Petes/Blueskies website is a must do.........truly, he has one of the best old car resto websites on the web.......have a look and it will explain a lot of what you have been asking.........andyd

[Andydodge]

And Michael, as for what you should or should not be researching........its like this.........its d8ifficult to say exactly "what" you should be researching but if you are into old cars then any books, magazines whatever that have info on old cars is doing your "research".......thats why I suggested an Australian Workshop Manual as just by reading it you'd pick up a lot of the info that people have been trying to explain........its not as if there is a right or wrong, yes or no answer to what you are asking, a lot of this is really what you want or decide to do, but there are people here who have a LOT of experience, skills and knowledge that has been gained by doing the very things you ask about rather then by "research" in the academic sense but it is nevertheless "research" , just that its a more practical version.........I would not suggest you get a workshop manual, whether an Oz or US one and read it cover to cover if I honestly didn't think it would help you understand your cars mechanical setup and conversely answer a lot of your questions.........I can't give you a definitive answer as to why it will help you..........I JUST KNOW IT WILL..........lol..........regards, Andy Douglas