Merle Coggins Posted March 19, 2009 Report Share Posted March 19, 2009 In my "Interiors" thread someone brought up the question of brake and clutch pedal draft seals. I've been thinking about these too, so I thought I'd start a new thread about them. I purchased these a while back, and can't even remember where I got them now. Maybe Roberts? Every time I think about installing these I worry that they won't stretch over the pedal pads. The only other way to install them would be from the bottom up, but that would mean removing the pedals. I'm kicking myself for not puting them on when I had the pedals off to redo the bushings. I had them at that time, but my CRS kicked in. I really don't want to remove the pedals again. Has anyone had experience with these pedal draft seals? Will they stretch over the pedal pads if soaked in hot soapy water? Merle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Coatney Posted March 19, 2009 Report Share Posted March 19, 2009 Merle; I suspect the draft seals you have pictured are for cars not trucks. The car pedal foot piece is bolted on and removale. The draft seal is installed below the floor board and it travels up and down with the pedal as pictured. Not sure what trucks use but I suspect it is different than cars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young Ed Posted March 19, 2009 Report Share Posted March 19, 2009 That seal from roberts is listed for both cars and trucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merle Coggins Posted March 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2009 Yes Don, the pedal seals work the same way on the trucks, but the pedal pads are not removable like on the cars. The seals will have to be stretched over one end or the other. I thought that maybe the trucks didn't use them, but they are shown in my parts manual. Merle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm's Coupe Posted March 19, 2009 Report Share Posted March 19, 2009 Merle, If you can't remove the pedal pads, how would you replace the rubber on them when it was worn out. On the cars, the rubber is vulcanized onto the metal backing of the pad. Then that is bolted to the pedal as shown in Don's picture without the pedal pad. To get my new draft seals on I slipped the seals over the the top after removing the pads. Had to stretch the seal to do it. Then slid the seal down to the floor and stuffed it through the hole in the floor for the pedal shaft. Those seals should be real flexible, especially if new. Mine were, but I got mine from Steele Rubber. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young Ed Posted March 19, 2009 Report Share Posted March 19, 2009 What rubber pedal pads? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merle Coggins Posted March 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2009 Rubber pads? We don't need no stinkin' rubber pads... Trucks are for tough guys. Truck pedals have pads integrated with the shaft and all metal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Coatney Posted March 19, 2009 Report Share Posted March 19, 2009 What rubber pedal pads? You must forgive Norm as (once again) he does not know:confused: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm's Coupe Posted March 19, 2009 Report Share Posted March 19, 2009 Well..........I'm not into trucks that much and have never looked that close at the old trucks. Most modern pickups today have a rubber covered pedal. So..that's what I based my reply on. I don't know if you can get that draft seal to stretch that much over those pads without breaking it. But.......it seems like there has to be a quicker, easier way to get them on than removing the shaft to do it. Or, at least there should have been. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young Ed Posted March 19, 2009 Report Share Posted March 19, 2009 He's forgiven. I think I have seen an aftermarket covering that slips over the whole pedal sorta like a more modern car/truck. It gets kinda tricky if you've ever driven one of these when your shoes got wet from rain etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young Ed Posted March 19, 2009 Report Share Posted March 19, 2009 Well..........I'm not into trucks that much and have never looked that close at the old trucks. Most modern pickups today have a rubber covered pedal. So..that's what I based my reply on. I don't know if you can get that draft seal to stretch that much over those pads without breaking it. But.......it seems like there has to be a quicker' date=' easier way to get them on than removing the shaft to do it. Or, at least there should have been.[/quote']I agree with that Norm. If you have to remove the pedals to do it that would make it quite a pain. You either have to crawl underneath or remove a bunch of the floor. Wrecks your clutch adjustment too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norrism1 Posted March 19, 2009 Report Share Posted March 19, 2009 Merle, I put mine on by placing in hot soapy water for about an hour, Still not easy but was really careful when streching over pedals. Got them on though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobT-47P15 Posted March 19, 2009 Report Share Posted March 19, 2009 If the rubber is new and not brittle, and you heat them with the soapy water thing, and maybe even a hair dryer or something, they might have enough give. The pedal pad size looks from the pictures to be a little smaller than on a car. Once they are onto the pedal shaft, then ya gotta poke them thru the hole in the floor so they're on the underside of the floorboard. I made my own draft pads by going to Lowe's home center and finding some rubber washers with a large enough center hole and outside diameter to cover the floor opening. They are round, not rectangular, but they cover the hole. The process for getting them where they need to be would be the same for you. (mine is a car, so the pedal pads came off) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBF Posted March 19, 2009 Report Share Posted March 19, 2009 Merle-I used the same ones shown in Don's picture.. Armoralled them up and slid 'em over the pedals. Bought mine at Roberts-they didn't tear. They go on the underside of the floorboard so that they make contact when the pedals are not depressed. Keeps the cold winds out of yorur pantlegs until you step on the clutch or brake! Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Shepard Posted March 20, 2009 Report Share Posted March 20, 2009 I put mine in a baggie with some Amour All and left in the hot sun all day. After that they went on slicker 'n snot on a doorknob... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgeb4ya Posted March 20, 2009 Report Share Posted March 20, 2009 (edited) What rubber pedal pads? What rubber pedal pads? ---These Dodge truck slip over rubber pedal pads for soft foot pansies like me! Edited December 11, 2010 by Dodgeb4ya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grey beard Posted March 20, 2009 Report Share Posted March 20, 2009 You guys are a real hoot! Pedal pads are surely not draft seals - even in Wisconsin, where nearly anything is possible. Merle, just lube those draft seals up with Go Jo and use a #3 phillips screwdriver to pry them over the metal pedal - they stretch right on. I had the same fears you mention, but if you follow thie advice, you'll be done in five minutes and will laugh at the exercise - no sweat at all. Of course, it works best with the rubber pedal pads removed. Better tell Norm . . . . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TodFitch Posted March 20, 2009 Report Share Posted March 20, 2009 Interesting. My 1933 has non-removable pedals too and I could not figure out how to get the pad over the pedal or even over the shaft end with out tearing them. So I sliced them with a shop knife, put them around the shaft and used contact cement to glue them back together. That was a number of years ago and now the draft seals are falling apart so it is time for new ones. From what I hear on this thread I guess it is possible to work new draft pads over the pedals if warmed up and properly lubricated. I would not have thought that possible but who am I to argue with the success others have had solving the same problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobT-47P15 Posted March 20, 2009 Report Share Posted March 20, 2009 This is the round rubber washer I used for draft pads....... On a car, so the pedal pad could be removed. Probably not quite as efficient as the original style, but seems to work ok. Pretty cheap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young Ed Posted March 20, 2009 Report Share Posted March 20, 2009 What rubber pedal pads? ---These Dodge truck slip over rubber pedal pads for soft foot pansys like me! Where'd you get those? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merle Coggins Posted March 20, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 20, 2009 The rubber pad covers are available from Roberts. Part # T23 for your truck, Ed. Part # T24 for a Pilot House truck. The catalog shows a price of $19.50 per pair. Merle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young Ed Posted March 20, 2009 Report Share Posted March 20, 2009 Thanks Merle. I'll have to remember to tack those on the next time I'm ordering something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis_MN Posted March 20, 2009 Report Share Posted March 20, 2009 Merle, Yes, they will slip over the pedal all it takes was copouis amounts of vaseline. I couldn't believe that they would strech that much but they did because after Grey Beard described pulling the pedals after the cab was installed, I was determined to pull them over. I need to do it again because now one is completly gone. Dennis So did you hear about the newly wed couple who didn't know the difference between vaseline and putty? All of their windows fell out.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgeb4ya Posted March 21, 2009 Report Share Posted March 21, 2009 Where'd you get those? Got 5 of them at a garage sale for $2.50. couple years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Truck Posted December 10, 2010 Report Share Posted December 10, 2010 In my "Interiors" thread someone brought up the question of brake and clutch pedal draft seals. I've been thinking about these too, so I thought I'd start a new thread about them.I purchased these a while back, and can't even remember where I got them now. Maybe Roberts? Every time I think about installing these I worry that they won't stretch over the pedal pads. The only other way to install them would be from the bottom up, but that would mean removing the pedals. I'm kicking myself for not puting them on when I had the pedals off to redo the bushings. I had them at that time, but my CRS kicked in. I really don't want to remove the pedals again. Has anyone had experience with these pedal draft seals? Will they stretch over the pedal pads if soaked in hot soapy water? Merle Merle, Just wondering if you installed these since you posted this a while ago? I just bought a pair from Roberts and I'm getting ready to install them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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