TodFitch Posted January 28, 2009 Report Share Posted January 28, 2009 The parts reference section on the main part of this site lists two oil filter cross references: Chrysler 1121694 crossed to NAPA 1006 Chrysler 677534 crossed to NAPA 1080. I can't figure out how to get to oil filters on NAPA Online, but WIX shows the 51080 as crossing to the Chrysler 1121694 number. And the image and dimensions looks like the Chrysler 1121694 I have at home (a paper media type filter). So, I think that 1121694 should be shown as a cross to WIX 51080. Does that sound right? Second, the parts book shows 677534 as the "Deluxe Heavy Duty" oil filter and shows it taking filter element 676575. So I think the listing for 677534 on the cross reference page is totally wrong. Any idea what Chrysler part the NAPA 1080 replaces? Could it be Chrylser part 861027? A google search turned up http://www.ytmag.com/nboard/messages/387682.html which indicates that NAPA 1080 is the same as WIX 51010, which is a paper element cartridge a bit larger than the WIX 51080 but has no application listed. Finally, regarding page 176 of the 1936-48 parts book, does anyone have any cross references for the following filter inserts: 861027 (For use with filter 677536 used on the P1 through P14, and filter kit 860821 (unknown usage, except this might be an error as in the notes element 861027 is shown as being used by filter kit 861029 on the P15)). 861032 (For use on filter kit 861029) 676575 (For use with the "Deluxe Heavy Duty" filter 677534. The illustration shows a string wrapped element, not a paper element.) Just compulsively updating a part of my web site and trying to get it right: http://www.ply33.com/Parts/group10#10-C Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young Ed Posted January 28, 2009 Report Share Posted January 28, 2009 Tod I can't help with the Chrysler to napa numbers but the napa to wix numbers are the same. Just drop the 5 to get the napa number. Wix makes the napa filters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmopar Posted January 28, 2009 Report Share Posted January 28, 2009 I think I have used the 1080 without a problem my notes are in the garage but pretty sure that is one that will fit. There are different size canisters out there that can be used so depending on which one you have it could make a difference. here is a link to the infor on the napa 1080 http://www.napaonline.com/NOLPPSE/(S(kqcsvv45vcdw0jisnzfpzs55))/Detail.aspx?R=FIL1080_0006473344 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TodFitch Posted January 28, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2009 I think I have used the 1080 without a problem my notes are in the garage but pretty sure that is one that will fit. There are different size canisters out there that can be used so depending on which one you have it could make a difference.here is a link to the infor on the napa 1080 http://www.napaonline.com/NOLPPSE/(S(kqcsvv45vcdw0jisnzfpzs55))/Detail.aspx?R=FIL1080_0006473344 I'd like to know how you got to a specific oil filter on napaonline. You are a better NAPA shopper than I. The dimensions listed there are not exactly the same as I measured on my NOS Chrysler 1121694 but it looks close enough. So I'll add it in with the WIX 51080 as a cross reference. That still leaves me wondering what the NAPA 1006 that was listed as a cross reference for the heavy duty filter actually fits. And it leaves me wondering if the Chrysler 861027 filter element used on lots of cars including some P15 crosses to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merle Coggins Posted January 28, 2009 Report Share Posted January 28, 2009 When you're at the Napa online main page www.napaonline.com select "Parts" in the top menu and then click on "PartsPRO SE Catalog". Once you're in the PartsPRO SE catalog site there is a search function in the upper left of the page. Enter the number you want to cross, or search for. Then you have 3 options, Keyword, Part Number, or Interchange. Select "Interchange" and click the red arrow. When I put in your Chrysler 1121694 number I got 2 hits. the Napa Gold 1071 filter and the Napa Gold 1080 filter. You can then click each filter and it will give you dimensions and other details for each filter. It doesn't show the 1121694 number as being from Chrysler, but from Hobart Manufacturing or Friday Tractor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobby horne Posted January 28, 2009 Report Share Posted January 28, 2009 I see the Napa filter is over $10........... In my 38 Ply, I have been using Fram C3 from Tractor Supply,,,cost $6.........The C3 is very similar to the Napa 1080... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TodFitch Posted January 28, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2009 I see the Napa filter is over $10........... In my 38 Ply, I have been using Fram C3 from Tractor Supply,,,cost $6.........The C3 is very similar to the Napa 1080... Over at http://www.oilfiltersonline.com/ they cross reference both the WIX 51080 and Chrysler 1121694 to a FRAM C134PL. And that same site has a listing for the heavy duty filter element (Chrysler 676575) as a FRAM C120E. The Wix site matches that to a WIX 51011 and the photo there matches the illustration in the parts book. Progress! Still need to find a cross reference for Chrysler part numbers 861027 and 861032. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TodFitch Posted January 28, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2009 http://www.pureoil.com/ProductFinder.aspx?action=IG shows Chrysler filter element number 861032 crossing over to Purolator L20700. Which, surprise, surprise, crosses over to WIX 51080. So both 861032 and 1121694, even though listed as different parts in the 1936-48 parts book, cross to the same modern aftermarket replacement parts. By the way Purolator L20700 also matches to WIX 51071 which appears to be the same size as WIX 51080 except that it has a nominal micron rating of 30 rather than 19. So it sounds like one to stay away from. So that only leaves Chrysler part number 861027 to find a cross reference for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Manes Posted January 29, 2009 Report Share Posted January 29, 2009 In the past I found that WIX makes all of NAPA'S filters, and that WIX 51062 (Ht 6.5” O.D. 3.278”) fit Chrysler L6 & L8. My 1948 Desoto uses NAPA GOLD 1010 and/or possibly NAPA GOLD 1080 (Ht 4.375” O.D. 3.718”). I did not get the WIX numbers for the Desoto. I found some surprising comments on the web about several of the old brand names that used to have great respect of mechanics. Aparently, WIX makes one of the better lines of filters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
48mirage Posted January 29, 2009 Report Share Posted January 29, 2009 The NAPA 1071 is for the bypass flow filtering system the NAPA 1080 is for the Full Flow filtering system. I would guess that is the reason for the different micron ratings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg g Posted January 29, 2009 Report Share Posted January 29, 2009 been using the 1080 for 4 years with no apparent problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TodFitch Posted January 29, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2009 The NAPA 1071 is for the bypass flow filtering system the NAPA 1080 is for the Full Flow filtering system. I would guess that is the reason for the different micron ratings. If the NAPA 1080 is the same as a WIX 51080, which I think is true, then it is for a bypass system. And, in theory, a bypass system can and should use a finer media than a full flow filter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg g Posted January 29, 2009 Report Share Posted January 29, 2009 Bypass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TodFitch Posted January 29, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2009 I use an AC PF316. Bypass. $3.88 at PartsAmerica.com. Don't know the micron rating.Pic on the website is different from the actual filter. The Wix site shows that as equivalent to the WIX 51071 which is the 30 micron filter. For a bypass system you can stand higher back pressure (lower flow) across the filter media because you are not in series with the flow to the bearings. Because of that you might as well filter out particles as small as you can. For that reason, I'd pick the WIX 51080 (or equivalent) over the WIX 51071 (or equivalent). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobby horne Posted January 30, 2009 Report Share Posted January 30, 2009 ...........The C3 & the C134PL filters are about the same size.............The gasket on the C134PL is for the larger canister...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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